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POST-MATCH THREAD: Wycombe Wanderers v Charlton Athletic: Play Off 1st leg: Sun 11th May 2025 : KO

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  • _MrDick said:
    Official attendance of 6,585 (1,848 away end). 

    Embarrassing from Wycombe fans. 
    So 4737 home fans in attendance last night. Are 3/4 of those numbers gonna turn up on Thursday to fill the Jimmy Seed 🤔.. I don’t think so. Split the JS to allow more noise into the Valley COME ON CHARLTON 
    Unfortunately we can’t do that in time…..need special police agreement for a start off, plus a few other safety hurdles to get over.
    Not enough time to pull it all together.🤔
  • Woodwork said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    It’s a stretch comparing us to Wycombe. Down here in London, we’re up against endless distractions and surrounded by clubs with glittering histories and bulging trophy cabinets, all within spitting distance. The fight for attention is a different beast entirely.
    You can get to Arsenal in just over an hour from Wycombe tbf. 

    If you say Greenwich and Bexley are legitimate Charlton catchment areas, that's over 535,000 people on our doorstep; and gates of 14,000 home fans represents only 2.6% of that number.

    The entire district of Wycombe has a population of c175,00. Home support of c4,500 fans represents 2.6% of that population. 

    Charlton Pros: Integrated transport system thanks to London location, with easy access from north Kent too. 104 years of Football League history. Good history - FA Cup winners, seasons in top flight, including PL. 

    Charlton Cons: Have to compete for support with other, more successful London clubs within easy access thanks to integrated transport system. Playing below historic level. 

    Wycombe Pros: One club town. Playing above historical level.

    Wycombe Cons: Close proximity to London. Southern commuter town, so not traditional football hotbed. Only 32 years of Football League history, most of it in tier 3 and 4. Stadium in poor location. 

    Therefore, I still think it is a weird stick to beat them with. If you half the population of Nottingham, you get c160,000. Notts County averaged around 9,500 home fans in L2. That's 5.9% of that population. They play literally across a bridge from twice European champions & current PL high flyers Nottingham Forest. The equivalent at The Valley would be 31,565 home fans. Ergo, we really can't be too snooty.  

    It has to be said that it was a shocking turnout by them for such an important game.
  • Woodwork said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    It’s a stretch comparing us to Wycombe. Down here in London, we’re up against endless distractions and surrounded by clubs with glittering histories and bulging trophy cabinets, all within spitting distance. The fight for attention is a different beast entirely.
    You can get to Arsenal in just over an hour from Wycombe tbf. 

    If you say Greenwich and Bexley are legitimate Charlton catchment areas, that's over 535,000 people on our doorstep; and gates of 14,000 home fans represents only 2.6% of that number.

    The entire district of Wycombe has a population of c175,00. Home support of c4,500 fans represents 2.6% of that population. 

    Charlton Pros: Integrated transport system thanks to London location, with easy access from north Kent too. 104 years of Football League history. Good history - FA Cup winners, seasons in top flight, including PL. 

    Charlton Cons: Have to compete for support with other, more successful London clubs within easy access thanks to integrated transport system. Playing below historic level. 

    Wycombe Pros: One club town. Playing above historical level.

    Wycombe Cons: Close proximity to London. Southern commuter town, so not traditional football hotbed. Only 32 years of Football League history, most of it in tier 3 and 4. Stadium in poor location. 

    Therefore, I still think it is a weird stick to beat them with. If you half the population of Nottingham, you get c160,000. Notts County averaged around 9,500 home fans in L2. That's 5.9% of that population. They play literally across a bridge from twice European champions & current PL high flyers Nottingham Forest. The equivalent at The Valley would be 31,565 home fans. Ergo, we really can't be too snooty.  

    It has to be said that it was a shocking turnout by them for such an important game.
    I don’t actually disagree. But I just don’t think it’s a stick we can beat them with, given that in terms of ratio of fans per local population the two clubs are the same. As I think AFKA said, it is more a shock that the crowd was below many of their league gates. 
  • edited May 12
    I can’t believe how woefully bad Greg Doherty was yesterday, just a reminder that he isn’t going to be good enough going forward 
    IF we go up, more than happy with the majority of our defense, Godden, Campbell and Coventry. 
    Agree with the rest but think we'd have to replace Godden. His goalscoring over four seasons in the Championship is 6, 12, 8 and 6. And he'll be 34 next season - I think anything more than a squad role would be beyond him. 
  • mendonca said:
    Bigger crowds guarantee absolutely nothing. Leeds, Derby and others are case studies of that.

    It’s all about what the players do on the pitch. 
    Hostile bigger crowds can make a difference.
    I find that a myth personally. The Doncaster home game being the biggest relatable example of that. Our crowd was amazing that night but most people forgot we lost the game 1-3
    Completely agree. It can also motivate, rather than intimidate the opposition. Especially the kind who usually get to play in front of 4/5k.
    Operation "Stay at Home" ?
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  • Lets not forget they have best away record other than Brum, and believe they have scored more away goals than anyone

    Just hope the non red cards don't come to bite us on the arse
  • MrOneLung said:
    Lets not forget they have best away record other than Brum, and believe they have scored more away goals than anyone

    Just hope the non red cards don't come to bite us on the arse
    True about second best away record and away goals scored. 

    But looking at the top 7, they lost away games against Birmingham, Wrexham, us, Orient, and Reading. 

    Only away game from top 7 they picked up points was a 5-0 win at Stockport.
  • See the doubters have arrived already, and we ain't even got to the Match Preview...🤦‍♂️
  • Chunes said:
    I can’t believe how woefully bad Greg Doherty was yesterday, just a reminder that he isn’t going to be good enough going forward 
    IF we go up, more than happy with the majority of our defense, Godden, Campbell and Coventry. 
    Agree with the rest but think we'd have to replace Godden. His goalscoring over four seasons in the Championship is 6, 12, 8 and 6. And he'll be 34 next season - I think anything more than a squad role would be beyond him. 
    Good option though for a team trying to stay up in the championship which we would be. 

    We would need about 5/6 new quality players to stand a chance of staying up.
  • Uboat said:
    sam3110 said:
    Should have used the playoff semi as a perfect game to test run the away fans in the West Stand. Give them 2k tickets at the end of it and put us all in the Jimmy Seed
    I would also make sure the speakers in the Jimmy Seed are at full blast as well when the Wycombe players come out to warm up, return there little trick which didn’t go unnoticed yesterday.
    Addicks to Victory on a loop for an hour before the game
    I’m all for intimidation, but I draw the line at crimes against humanity. 
    Fu*k 'em...feed 'em rice...🙄
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  • Bookies have us a general 8/13 to progress, 5/4 to win in 90 minutes.
  • I applaud Wycombe for their efficiency in putting away the worst teams in this league but I’ve never seen such a clear cut difference in sets of results between good and bad opponents. 

    If they’d just managed average returns against teams around them during the season, they’d probably be automatically promoted instead of Wrexham.


    That is an interesting graphic!
  • cabbles said:
    Is it just me or am I missing something re; all this needle directed at Wycombe and their fanbase?

    I thought it was a fairly uneventful game and both sides looked poor, but we will probably be slightly happier with the result given it looked the game plan was to not get beat.

    There were some poor tackles by some of theirs admittedly, but I can't understand how off the back of that fairly drab game, it's riled a few up.

    That's not having a dig at those that are riled up, simply that based on what I saw, I can't understand some of the animosity in the post match comments
    Really? The way Leahy got Chuks sent off a couple of weeks ago. The fact Kone tried to do Ramsay and should have seen red. The fact Odoh elbowed Gilly and should have seen red. The constant falling over and cheating. The fact my eardrums are still ringing from the shit blasted to us at half time at such volume. The fact they can’t sell 5,000 home seats for a play off game. The fact their stadium is in the arse end of nowhere.

    Sorry but fuck em. I really dislike them.
    I’ll take your word for it Re: the tannoy, and yes, there were some bad tackles.  I was surprised to see the ‘tinpot’ rhetoric directed to them.  I guess you had to be there (I wasn’t), but to me, it seems odd that a lot of what I’ve seen on social media and X etc is us calling them tinpot.  They’re never going to be able to pack out their ground and they can’t help level of their support based on their history and size.  

    I think we’ll be up for the second leg, but if their players, manager and fans take any notice of all this, it’s good fuel to stoke their fire 
  • I applaud Wycombe for their efficiency in putting away the worst teams in this league but I’ve never seen such a clear cut difference in sets of results between good and bad opponents. 

    If they’d just managed average returns against teams around them during the season, they’d probably be automatically promoted instead of Wrexham.


    It’s coming home 
    @Callumcafc says so
  • I can’t believe how woefully bad Greg Doherty was yesterday, just a reminder that he isn’t going to be good enough going forward 
    IF we go up, more than happy with the majority of our defense, Godden, Campbell and Coventry. 

    The rest, not so sure. I feel we need someone to compliment Coventry. I was disappointed in Doc yesterday who should be standing out in that type of game, and I feel Cov actually looked quite nervous.

    Hoping they can both pick it up for these potential last two games, as we need them at it to have a chance. Can't keep bypassing the midfield, especially if TC isn't at it.
    Coventry and Docherty got through a lot of work in the first half but we're not able to get the ball down to play, that was in the main because of Wycombe's long ball tactics and falling to the floor at every opportunity. Their Managers tactics stifled not only us but his own side, watch the last twenty minutes, their players were pulling up with cramp and we were dominating. I think Dodds will try the same again at the Valley, basically because he doesn't have a plan so once again it's important we don't concede and just as important that we have a decent ref who will see serious foul play for what it is. 
  • Eric said ''It's came up many times before about how Valley Gold is overvalued and supporters who actually attend matches miss out over those that don't go. But seeing a guy who has been to three games in the past 18 years attending a sold out away end tonight really takes the biscuit'' 

    Just as an aside, I was in the first Valley Gold tranche plus I have 2 season tickets giving me 480 points for Wycombe away at 2pm - I think it was phase 5 and there were no tickets left at 2.01pm so I don't think it would have been a Valley Gold issue. I'm totally supportive of those who go to the most away matches getting preference, but I'd be amazed if the guy you described got his because of Valley Gold.
    As an aside luckily I accompanied my mate who had 580 loyalty points so I was able to go. We sat on the far left as we were looking at the pitch and there were plenty of empty seats if people were prepared to move about a bit  
     
     
  • Eric said ''It's came up many times before about how Valley Gold is overvalued and supporters who actually attend matches miss out over those that don't go. But seeing a guy who has been to three games in the past 18 years attending a sold out away end tonight really takes the biscuit'' 

    Just as an aside, I was in the first Valley Gold tranche plus I have 2 season tickets giving me 480 points for Wycombe away at 2pm - I think it was phase 5 and there were no tickets left at 2.01pm so I don't think it would have been a Valley Gold issue. I'm totally supportive of those who go to the most away matches getting preference, but I'd be amazed if the guy you described got his because of Valley Gold.
    As an aside luckily I accompanied my mate who had 580 loyalty points so I was able to go. We sat on the far left as we were looking at the pitch and there were plenty of empty seats if people were prepared to move about a bit  
     
     
    Especially if they didn’t mind moving to a different stand. 
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