POST-MATCH THREAD: Wycombe Wanderers v Charlton Athletic: Play Off 1st leg: Sun 11th May 2025 : KO

Bailey said:

Braziliance said:

000__Jaaaaay__000 said:

I can’t believe how woefully bad Greg Doherty was yesterday, just a reminder that he isn’t going to be good enough going forward 

IF we go up, more than happy with the majority of our defense, Godden, Campbell and Coventry. 

The rest, not so sure. I feel we need someone to compliment Coventry. I was disappointed in Doc yesterday who should be standing out in that type of game, and I feel Cov actually looked quite nervous.

Hoping they can both pick it up for these potential last two games, as we need them at it to have a chance. Can't keep bypassing the midfield, especially if TC isn't at it.

Coventry and Docherty got through a lot of work in the first half but we're not able to get the ball down to play, that was in the main because of Wycombe's long ball tactics and falling to the floor at every opportunity. Their Managers tactics stifled not only us but his own side, watch the last twenty minutes, their players were pulling up with cramp and we were dominating. I think Dodds will try the same again at the Valley, basically because he doesn't have a plan so once again it's important we don't concede and just as important that we have a decent ref who will see serious foul play for what it is. 

Callumcafc said:

I applaud Wycombe for their efficiency in putting away the worst teams in this league but I’ve never seen such a clear cut difference in sets of results between good and bad opponents. 

If they’d just managed average returns against teams around them during the season, they’d probably be automatically promoted instead of Wrexham.

Covered End said:

Eric10 said:

Some appalling behaviour from a few of our supporters tonight.

A few people who found their seats occupied were threatening those in them with violence and hurling abuse at them.

Ridiculously, this was happening at the back of the stadium by people who wanted to sit!

First an old man hobbled to the back of the stand with his grandson supporting him. They found their seats taken and, instead of asking them to move, they IMMEDIATELY began shouting 'C*nts' at them over and over. The people moved, but several others got involved and politely informed them that, if they were sat at the back, they would be standing for 90 minutes. These people were also called c*nts for trying to be helpful.

Subsequently, another old man arrived by himself and found his seat taken by a youngster.

The young guy politely explained that people generally sit where they like at away games, but the old man was adamant that he wanted his seat. The youngster moved for him, but the old man still kept kicking off and was threatening to beat the young supporter up for having dared to sit in his seat in the first place.

The youngster quipped back asking the old man if it was the first away game of his life. Ridiculously, the old man responded with 'Actually, it's the second away game I have been to! Wrexham the other week was the first away game I ever went to!'

He didn't seem to realise that he was proving the youngster's point as, when others also asked if he would be fine standing for 90 minutes, he proudly boasted that this was his third game all season (he also went to Burton at home) and that he used to be a season ticket holder when we were in the Premier League, so he knows what it's like. It was reiterated that everybody in front of him would be standing, but he kept going on about how many seasons he had watched us at home in the Premier League, so he knew best.

Queue kick-off and the pair of old men began kicking off, yelling at those around then to sit down and be respectful, since they had paid for tickets and deserved to be able to watch the match just like the rest of us.

It was pointed out to them by those in front that, if they sat down, they wouldn't be able to see as the people in front of them would be stood up and so on as almost everybody was standing.

They complained to the stewards to try and get everybody to sit, but the stewards had witnessed their earlier altercations and reminded them that they had been told to sit at the front if they wanted to sit down as neither allocated seating or seating itself was being enforced.

The old man who was alone was a nightmare for the rest of the match. As well as constantly whining about having to stand, he was complaining that Charlton fans were singing and the drummer was drumming!

Instead of accepting responsibility, he directed his anger at the youngster who was originally in his seat, constantly threatening to beat him up once they were out the ground.

It was already a rather dull game, especially the first half, but having to endure 90 minutes of whining on top, made it an evening worse experience.

It's came up many times before about how Valley Gold is overvalued and supporters who actually attend matches miss out over those that don't go. But seeing a guy who has been to three games in the past 18 years attending a sold out away end tonight really takes the biscuit.

I have to say having followed Charlton home & away for 50 years, I've never seen so many people there yesterday that I didn't recognize.
Yes there were plenty of regulars, but I stood up and looked all around at half time and recognized 2 people. 

Woodwork said:

Chippycafc said:

cabbles said:

LargeAddick said:

cabbles said:

Is it just me or am I missing something re; all this needle directed at Wycombe and their fanbase?

I thought it was a fairly uneventful game and both sides looked poor, but we will probably be slightly happier with the result given it looked the game plan was to not get beat.

There were some poor tackles by some of theirs admittedly, but I can't understand how off the back of that fairly drab game, it's riled a few up.

That's not having a dig at those that are riled up, simply that based on what I saw, I can't understand some of the animosity in the post match comments

Really? The way Leahy got Chuks sent off a couple of weeks ago. The fact Kone tried to do Ramsay and should have seen red. The fact Odoh elbowed Gilly and should have seen red. The constant falling over and cheating. The fact my eardrums are still ringing from the shit blasted to us at half time at such volume. The fact they can’t sell 5,000 home seats for a play off game. The fact their stadium is in the arse end of nowhere.

Sorry but fuck em. I really dislike them.

I’ll take your word for it Re: the tannoy, and yes, there were some bad tackles.  I was surprised to see the ‘tinpot’ rhetoric directed to them.  I guess you had to be there (I wasn’t), but to me, it seems odd that a lot of what I’ve seen on social media and X etc is us calling them tinpot.  They’re never going to be able to pack out their ground and they can’t help level of their support based on their history and size.  

I think we’ll be up for the second leg, but if their players, manager and fans take any notice of all this, it’s good fuel to stoke their fire 

I went to the 4-0 game and afterwards all of their fans walking down that long road to get a bus back to town were decent, congratulating and wished us well for the future, despite just 5 mins before see their promotion chances automatically evaporate.

Cant see Wrexham, Birmingham and one or two others say the same and act. To call them tinpot when their in the same league is disingenuous.

Some of our fans singing " youve seen the Charlton now fuck off home" need to take a good look at themselves. We aint Liverpool.

They may just get the last laugh.

This. We’ve always been a pretty humble and respectful fanbase. 

Ironically, the young lads that follow us are acting quite arrogantly considering all they’ve really known is us being the divisional peers of Wycombe, Peterborough, Bristol Rovers etc etc. 

Woodwork said:

Callumcafc said:

I applaud Wycombe for their efficiency in putting away the worst teams in this league but I’ve never seen such a clear cut difference in sets of results between good and bad opponents. 

If they’d just managed average returns against teams around them during the season, they’d probably be automatically promoted instead of Wrexham.

That is an interesting graphic!

killerandflash said:

Chippycafc said:

Covered End said:

Eric10 said:

Some appalling behaviour from a few of our supporters tonight.

A few people who found their seats occupied were threatening those in them with violence and hurling abuse at them.

Ridiculously, this was happening at the back of the stadium by people who wanted to sit!

First an old man hobbled to the back of the stand with his grandson supporting him. They found their seats taken and, instead of asking them to move, they IMMEDIATELY began shouting 'C*nts' at them over and over. The people moved, but several others got involved and politely informed them that, if they were sat at the back, they would be standing for 90 minutes. These people were also called c*nts for trying to be helpful.

Subsequently, another old man arrived by himself and found his seat taken by a youngster.

The young guy politely explained that people generally sit where they like at away games, but the old man was adamant that he wanted his seat. The youngster moved for him, but the old man still kept kicking off and was threatening to beat the young supporter up for having dared to sit in his seat in the first place.

The youngster quipped back asking the old man if it was the first away game of his life. Ridiculously, the old man responded with 'Actually, it's the second away game I have been to! Wrexham the other week was the first away game I ever went to!'

He didn't seem to realise that he was proving the youngster's point as, when others also asked if he would be fine standing for 90 minutes, he proudly boasted that this was his third game all season (he also went to Burton at home) and that he used to be a season ticket holder when we were in the Premier League, so he knows what it's like. It was reiterated that everybody in front of him would be standing, but he kept going on about how many seasons he had watched us at home in the Premier League, so he knew best.

Queue kick-off and the pair of old men began kicking off, yelling at those around then to sit down and be respectful, since they had paid for tickets and deserved to be able to watch the match just like the rest of us.

It was pointed out to them by those in front that, if they sat down, they wouldn't be able to see as the people in front of them would be stood up and so on as almost everybody was standing.

They complained to the stewards to try and get everybody to sit, but the stewards had witnessed their earlier altercations and reminded them that they had been told to sit at the front if they wanted to sit down as neither allocated seating or seating itself was being enforced.

The old man who was alone was a nightmare for the rest of the match. As well as constantly whining about having to stand, he was complaining that Charlton fans were singing and the drummer was drumming!

Instead of accepting responsibility, he directed his anger at the youngster who was originally in his seat, constantly threatening to beat him up once they were out the ground.

It was already a rather dull game, especially the first half, but having to endure 90 minutes of whining on top, made it an evening worse experience.

It's came up many times before about how Valley Gold is overvalued and supporters who actually attend matches miss out over those that don't go. But seeing a guy who has been to three games in the past 18 years attending a sold out away end tonight really takes the biscuit.

I have to say having followed Charlton home & away for 50 years, I've never seen so many people there yesterday that I didn't recognize.
Yes there were plenty of regulars, but I stood up and looked all around at half time and recognized 2 people. 

There will be a few thousand there thursday who will be at their first game of the season.

That's different though, as with 23000 home tickets, there's lots of space for the less regular supporters. Indeed you want the occasional supporters to come along, and get back into the habit again.

orpingtonRED said:

Callumcafc said:

I applaud Wycombe for their efficiency in putting away the worst teams in this league but I’ve never seen such a clear cut difference in sets of results between good and bad opponents. 

If they’d just managed average returns against teams around them during the season, they’d probably be automatically promoted instead of Wrexham.

How did the season end with clubs doing doubles over another team?
I know we were up there 

Woodwork said:

fenaddick said:

cafcsinger said:

Although I’m surprised at the low attendance that  Wycombe had at home, we had just under 15,000 against Shrewsbury 7 years ago in the play off first leg. We’re not really ones to talk are we?

We were in the middle of a boycott and playing below the level the club should be. Wycombe are on an upward trajectory with a rich owner and a chance to play in the highest division they've ever played in, the two aren't really comparable

Around 3.9% of the actual town of High Wycombe turned out to support them in a League One Play-off. Which is not great. However, that would be a crowd of c11,200 home fans at The Valley if you applied it to the London borough of Greenwich. Which is about what we average in actual bums on seats of home fans. 

In conclusion, Wycombe is not a hot bed of fanatical football support. But nor is Greenwich when compared to the likes of Burnley, Sunderland, Middlesbrough or even Ipswich. 

AFKABartram said:

I do think we seem to be getting increasingly blinkered with things. Chuks wasn’t 100% innocent in his sending off and we are not adverse to mixing it, sly arts, non-beautiful football, play acting, running the clock down etc 

jimmymelrose said:

Woodwork said:

fenaddick said:

cafcsinger said:

Although I’m surprised at the low attendance that  Wycombe had at home, we had just under 15,000 against Shrewsbury 7 years ago in the play off first leg. We’re not really ones to talk are we?

We were in the middle of a boycott and playing below the level the club should be. Wycombe are on an upward trajectory with a rich owner and a chance to play in the highest division they've ever played in, the two aren't really comparable

Around 3.9% of the actual town of High Wycombe turned out to support them in a League One Play-off. Which is not great. However, that would be a crowd of c11,200 home fans at The Valley if you applied it to the London borough of Greenwich. Which is about what we average in actual bums on seats of home fans. 

In conclusion, Wycombe is not a hot bed of fanatical football support. But nor is Greenwich when compared to the likes of Burnley, Sunderland, Middlesbrough or even Ipswich. 

I’d like to see further statistics like this but with the country divided up into ’football territories.’ Wycombe for example have all the county of Buckinghamshire, and Charlton all of Greenwich and Bexley. It’s hard to do because there is in reality much overlap between clubs, particularly in London, but it would be fun  to see it tried.

cantersaddick said:

cantersaddick said:

Worried about Ramsay's injury. 

Wycombe a thoroughly hateable bunch of cloggers. Hope we fucking ruin them.

Someone like this one more time. I've never had 100 likes before!! 😉

oohaahmortimer said:

Just to add a few things my Charlton apocalypse didn’t occur and we live to fight another day .
Now i feel confident we ‘should’ beat them but all this bollox about the atmosphere and big crowd helping I’ll remind the kids about the 17,000 Noisy loud Leeds fans and the 1,500 Charlton who witnessed a footballing miracle in the first ever play off finals, with our replay in 1987 .
Yesterday’s match was utter junk and it takes two to tango and both teams looked shit for the majority of it .
Some of the pathetic attempted forward passing by Coventry reminds me of why he mainly passes sideways or backwards .
Docherty was outmuscled a few times , I hate that Grimmer with a passion , dirty fuck who is bullying TC.
All this sneering down noses at Wycombe , listen I’m a football snob when we’re sloshing about down here getting hard ons in the third tier beating the likes of Wycombe whilst our nearest and dearest are playing real football clubs not rugby teams like us and when we have risen the leagues and punched above our weight against the real big boys we wouldn’t like the bitchy comments and we at times were a proper minge of a club and failed to sell out full allocations at white hart lane , Upton Park,  old Trafford,  Liverpool etc 
We have had brilliant , for us , away support in recent times but your big tests to see if you’ve made it big time support wise like Mansfield and Bolton midweek the numbers aren’t so impressive and these numbers are easy done when a teams winning all the time .
Apathy will set in if we stand still in the championship , a lovely problem to have .
Jumping around , apologies for failing to prepare and not realising we needed caps and sunglasses yesterday but no problem I was at the back and forced little shit to get out of my seat and whenever he piped up threatened to beat him up , a few of our fans moaned but fuck em I wanted to sit down and watch my third away game since the Prem , got a ticket on petrolheads points so was legit .
back to the sunshine , put a fucking cap in your keepers handbag Mannion you fuckwit , this was standard for me when I was a keeper but then I have half a brain cell, also as previously mentioned by my boring self I don’t think he’s sharp enough or makes the right decisions as to come off his line , yesterday choosing to go wide when he had no need and staying back when some keeper sweeping if acted on straight away without his delay would have helped , maybe in fact yes it’s harsh but  i do not rate him and fear his dithering will cost us .
Our defence is soooooo good , unreal in fact and that’s why we will go through (changed your tune now haven’t you oohahh , yeah a final loss is incoming , we’re due one )

feel sick just ate a mountain of chocolate and cakes again to comfort myself towards the hell of Thursday .

i don’t mind Wycombe , there’s no orrible c*** edge fan wise (that’s all on the pitch) as you leave the ground and it’s got decent scenery to look at when the football is shit , an hours drive to Epping after the 30-45 mins walk to get to car, buy shit in sweet shop and get through traffic .

15 %    semi final losers 
50% play off final losers
35% play off winners