Added some real bite (especially that brave header which signalled we meant business through to full time) and a 40 yard accurate through ball to Godden too.
I think that bites always been there, the aggression to win the ball and bravery to challenge in the air is one of the reasons NJ rates him so highly.
With goal in the Wycombe league and moments like that ball though to Godden it’s great to see him offer more with the ball.
If he can do it consistently then Doc’s place in the team is there to be won. Doc’s consistent and hard working, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes passing, creativity or goalscoring.
I think you're missing out the fact that Doc is a leader, and captain of the team...
True, but that didn’t stop Parker taking Kinsella’s place once he added bite to his game. Anderson’s the opposite - he’s got that aggression, and he’s had games in which he’s shown ability on the ball, he’s just not shown enough consistency in that area.
Think he's really come on, still things to work on but made a real impact coming off the bench yesterday. If I was feeling contrary I'd say that, at this moment in time, I think he's a better player than Doc.
Think the academy tinted glasses are blinded some people, the only thing he is better at Doc then is his engine, I cant deny he is wholehearted and technical, but he is still pretty technically poor
Possibly a bit of both, I think that technically Doc isn't up to much either - but he plays within his ability better sometimes. That said, he's been a really good captain for us and I have no problem him being the first name on the team sheet.
Added some real bite (especially that brave header which signalled we meant business through to full time) and a 40 yard accurate through ball to Godden too.
I think that bites always been there, the aggression to win the ball and bravery to challenge in the air is one of the reasons NJ rates him so highly.
With goal in the Wycombe league and moments like that ball though to Godden it’s great to see him offer more with the ball.
If he can do it consistently then Doc’s place in the team is there to be won. Doc’s consistent and hard working, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes passing, creativity or goalscoring.
I think you're missing out the fact that Doc is a leader, and captain of the team...
Well he's captain of the team, but i remain unconvinced of his leadership abilities.
Added some real bite (especially that brave header which signalled we meant business through to full time) and a 40 yard accurate through ball to Godden too.
I think that bites always been there, the aggression to win the ball and bravery to challenge in the air is one of the reasons NJ rates him so highly.
With goal in the Wycombe league and moments like that ball though to Godden it’s great to see him offer more with the ball.
If he can do it consistently then Doc’s place in the team is there to be won. Doc’s consistent and hard working, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes passing, creativity or goalscoring.
I think you're missing out the fact that Doc is a leader, and captain of the team...
Well he's captain of the team, but i remain unconvinced of his leadership abilities.
Not sure about this take. We have no idea what he is like behind closed doors, but from the outside this looks like one of the best dressing rooms we’ve had since 2019, Docherty is in charge of that dressing room so surely deserves some credit?
Again it’s very difficult for fans to judge because we barely see any of him in the role, but from what I see on the pitch and how he talks off it, he seems a great leader and at least the best captain we’ve had since Pearce
In terms of leadership let’s not forget he was incredibly quick in at the weekend to defend Gillesphey and got booked for his troubles, not the first time he’s done something like that either.
Karoy is a really strange enigma. He can look great one game and hopeless the next. Not sure if that’s a positional thing as in sometimes he is asked to do what he isn’t good at but it’s very strange. Loads of potential once he finds his role I think
Karoy is a really strange enigma. He can look great one game and hopeless the next. Not sure if that’s a positional thing as in sometimes he is asked to do what he isn’t good at but it’s very strange. Loads of potential once he finds his role I think
I personally feel that Karoy is better when the game is in front of him and he’s playing a bit deeper. The ball through to Godden was good example of that.
He’s not the best at receiving the ball on the half turn, we’ve definitely not seen the best of him yet. I could see him having an Aribo like development between the end of this season and the beginning of next. Aribo in 17/18 was good, but inconsistent. Aribo 18/19 was a vital cog in that Bows side.
Central Midfield players need time to develop, work out how to play in tight spaces.
Most definitely a player for certain scenarios. Look through our matches and you'll struggle to find a game where he started and we won. Or came on when we are losing and turned it around? But if we're winning when he comes on and we want to defend the lead or even extend it, then he's your man. Great if we're winning. Not so much if we aren't.
Most definitely a player for certain scenarios. Look through our matches and you'll struggle to find a game where he started and we won. Or came on when we are losing and turned it around? But if we're winning when he comes on and we want to defend the lead or even extend it, then he's your man. Great if we're winning. Not so much if we aren't.
For context... He's started: 16 - Won: 7 - Lost: 4 (Stevenage, Bristol Rovers, Huddersfield, Wrexham... All Away)
Subbed on: 22, the below we won after he came on, apart from Bolton not saying he had a "impact" on that victory
- Burton (A), Drawing at the time - Bolton (A), Losing at the time, scored the winner - Shrewsbury (H), Drawing at the time - Leyton Orient (A), Losing at the time - Mansfield (A), Drawing at the time
Most definitely a player for certain scenarios. Look through our matches and you'll struggle to find a game where he started and we won. Or came on when we are losing and turned it around? But if we're winning when he comes on and we want to defend the lead or even extend it, then he's your man. Great if we're winning. Not so much if we aren't.
For context... He's started: 16 - Won: 7 - Lost: 4 (Stevenage, Bristol Rovers, Huddersfield, Wrexham... All Away)
Subbed on: 22, the below we won after he came on, apart from Bolton not saying he had a "impact" on that victory
- Burton (A), Drawing at the time - Bolton (A), Losing at the time, scored the winner - Shrewsbury (H), Drawing at the time - Leyton Orient (A), Losing at the time - Mansfield (A), Drawing at the time
But apart from those games, he's not "great" if we aren't winning or if he starts.
Interesting people talking about "engines". Its testament to Jones just how many of these guys can go 100mins at full pelt and not look jaded! Doc, Coventry, Karoy, Edwards, Ramsay, Tyreece and even Gillesphey tbh! When was the last time you could look at our team and have that confidence? Compare this lot to shirkers like Fraser and Alex fucking Gilbey! Its great to see.
Interesting people talking about "engines". It’s testament to Jones just how many of these guys can go 100mins at full pelt and not look jaded! Doc, Coventry, Karoy, Edwards, Ramsay, Tyreece and even Gillesphey tbh! When was the last time you could look at our team and have that confidence? Compare this lot to shirkers like Fraser and Alex fucking Gilbey! It’s great to see.
Also credit to Will Abbott and team for doing the actual strength and conditioning stuff in the summer over in Slovenia. It can’t be easy coming up with a training regime that suits NJ’s needs
Interesting people talking about "engines". Its testament to Jones just how many of these guys can go 100mins at full pelt and not look jaded! Doc, Coventry, Karoy, Edwards, Ramsay, Tyreece and even Gillesphey tbh! When was the last time you could look at our team and have that confidence? Compare this lot to shirkers like Fraser and Alex fucking Gilbey! Its great to see.
It's not just the physical capability either but the mindset too - having the will and the desire to turn it up a gear at the right time, sometimes even quite late in the game. A lot of the time games have been fairly drab or equal but instead of wilting we find a way.
Most definitely a player for certain scenarios. Look through our matches and you'll struggle to find a game where he started and we won. Or came on when we are losing and turned it around? But if we're winning when he comes on and we want to defend the lead or even extend it, then he's your man. Great if we're winning. Not so much if we aren't.
Didn't he replace Doc ( his child was being born) for the Huddersfield game? I thought the team performance in that game was the pick of the season. It was simply sublime. Granted Huddersfield fell off a cliff but they were still in the hunt in that game. Anderson had a great game playing in Doc's position but I agree, Doc is a great captain and has done a great job in our fantastic run.
He was great off the bench again yesterday. I’m developing a huge soft spot for the lad. Think he’s going to become a proper stalwart as long as NJ stays at Charlton.
His engine is something that can’t be coached NJ clearly rates the lad and I’m sure that in 12 months time he will be a much better player than he is atm he will be in the squad next season 100%
Plenty more to come from Karoy. Remember he’s still only in his 2nd full season of first team football. He needs to do a reverse Scott Parker - he’s got the aggression and the engine, just needs to tidy up in possession and show what he can do. As with TC I think a lot of that’s in his head, finding the confidence and belief, keep learning and when it clicks we’ll have a good reliable player.
I can see the comparison to Lapslie, but I think we’ve seen signs he can be something more. I can see NJ getting it out of him in time.
Berry and Docherty’s spots are there to be won. No doubt we need a couple of midfield signings, but I wouldn’t write off Karoy making one of those positions his own.
Even if he doesn’t get the possession aspect sorted next year (which is possible). He is the perfect sub. Presses and covers a lot of ground and is aggressive in challenges. There is a value to that in the championship even if it means he is only playing 20 minutes every couple of matches. I think there is zero chance he is loaned out as a couple have suggested on other threads. However, the likes of Kanu, Dixon, Enselin might benefit from a loan to get competitive playing time.
He is really excellent off the bench, the energy and more crucially the application of his instructions has helped us over the line in both the 2nd leg and yesterday's final, still has aspects to improve with the ball but that will come
He had tape on both his knees yesterday so clearly nursing some end of season pain. To still leg it around the pitch like he did is so impressive. He also seems to have had a tough time off the pitch in recent times so I’m delighted for the lad.
Wont be starting for us next season but those Championship midfielders are going to hate having him come on and catch their ankles for half an hour
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He’s not the best at receiving the ball on the half turn, we’ve definitely not seen the best of him yet. I could see him having an Aribo like development between the end of this season and the beginning of next. Aribo in 17/18 was good, but inconsistent. Aribo 18/19 was a vital cog in that Bows side.
Look through our matches and you'll struggle to find a game where he started and we won. Or came on when we are losing and turned it around?
But if we're winning when he comes on and we want to defend the lead or even extend it, then he's your man.
Great if we're winning. Not so much if we aren't.
Subbed on: 22, the below we won after he came on, apart from Bolton not saying he had a "impact" on that victory
- Burton (A), Drawing at the time
- Bolton (A), Losing at the time, scored the winner
- Shrewsbury (H), Drawing at the time
- Leyton Orient (A), Losing at the time
- Mansfield (A), Drawing at the time
A lot of the time games have been fairly drab or equal but instead of wilting we find a way.
I can see the comparison to Lapslie, but I think we’ve seen signs he can be something more. I can see NJ getting it out of him in time.
Berry and Docherty’s spots are there to be won. No doubt we need a couple of midfield signings, but I wouldn’t write off Karoy making one of those positions his own.
Wont be starting for us next season but those Championship midfielders are going to hate having him come on and catch their ankles for half an hour
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