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Burton

creepyaddick
creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
edited October 2009 in General Charlton
Been reading on that other site that Burton needs a hernia op and might be out a while and that Dickson was back at the valley saturday.
Anyone know anymore?

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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    If that's true ...... at least Hernia ops are relatively quick repair and recovery jobs compared with the old 'tinopener' surgery.
    Players can be back in just a few weeks these days.

    Anyway, we've got McLeod and McKenzie ready to step in. ;o)

    Dicko back at The Valley last Saturday?
    Something to do with Bristol Rovers not having a match last weekend......?
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Love to see Dicko back, but unless Mckenzie can do the support play... Dicko and Shelvey don't quite click. Maybe they will at this level but Dicko's harem scarem and Shelvey's youthfull all over the place exuberance is way too lose, and very little ball sticks against even semi-organised champ teams.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,230
    [cite]Posted By: ColinTat[/cite]Love to see Dicko back, but unless Mckenzie can do the support play... Dicko and Shelvey don't quite click. Maybe they will at this level but Dicko's harem scarem and Shelvey's youthfull all over the place exuberance is way too lose, and very little ball sticks against even semi-organised champ teams.

    Scored and created a lot of goals for each other in the reserves, but I see your point. Can we even get Dickson back yet anyway? I don't think its been 28 days yet, although I could be wrong.

    Tbh, I think it's a bit an irrelevance, I don't expect to see him back unless something happens to Mcleod and/or McKenzie as well.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,929
    do we even know yet if this is true re Burton ? If it is it may explain a couple of below par performances recently.
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Unless your a monster like Drogba I don't think many players can sustain form if they play a lot of game time up front on their own. The guy's 32, and if people aren't supporting quick he's quickly going to run dry.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    Not forgetting, it's only a few weeks since his nose was broken ..... it'll still be painful if he gets a knock on it.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,557
    [cite]Posted By: ColinTat[/cite]Love to see Dicko back, but unless Mckenzie can do the support play... Dicko and Shelvey don't quite click. Maybe they will at this level but Dicko's harem scarem and Shelvey's youthfull all over the place exuberance is way too lose, and very little ball sticks against even semi-organised champ teams.

    Dicko and Shelvey have mostly been replaced by one another in the first team though rarely have they played together? Makes little or no sense to say they don't click especially after their reserve partnership.
  • Am a Dickson fan myself but clearly he can't play as the lone striker in the 4-5-1 system. Parkinson is right about that.

    He would need to be the poacher in a front two.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    It's a bit worrying that the goals have dried up........strangely since Semedo has been out injured.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,262
    As henners always says, until its on the OS.............

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  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Dazzler what sensible world is this? When did Dickson play in the hole? Could Dickson play well in the hole? When did banging goals in the reserves against third rate teams mean the partnership is bang to rights?

    Dickson played up front on his own against Coventry, with Shelvey in a way down no-mans land hole. Clearly after that match Parky never ever contemplated playing him as a lone striker, and both Parky and Dicko said afterwards that Charlton are playing a way that doesn't suit him.

    Every close season Ambrose scored plenty in meaningless matches, supposedly looked great in practice but come game time and first-team agressive competition the goals generally dissapeared and plenty of opposition attacks came through him. Makes erm no sense when people bring up a mythical Shelvey & Dickson partnership in reserves. When was this? Last season Dicko played with Tuna, Burton, Godfrey, Todorov and Kandol in the reserves whilst he and Shelvey ripped apart Lewes. Is this one match against amateurs proof positive? I know now how you can say they may click.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,557
    Ambrose is still scoring at a higher level though! ;o)
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    [cite]Posted By: ColinTat[/cite]Dazzler what sensible world is this? When did Dickson play in the hole? Could Dickson play well in the hole? When did banging goals in the reserves against third rate teams mean the partnership is bang to rights?

    Dickson played up front on his own against Coventry, with Shelvey in a way down no-mans land hole. Clearly after that match Parky never ever contemplated playing him as a lone striker, and both Parky and Dicko said afterwards that Charlton are playing a way that doesn't suit him.

    Every close season Ambrose scored plenty in meaningless matches, supposedly looked great in practice but come game time and first-team agressive competition the goals generally dissapeared and plenty of opposition attacks came through him. Makes erm no sense when people bring up a mythical Shelvey & Dickson partnership in reserves. When was this? Last season Dicko played with Tuna, Burton, Godfrey, Todorov and Kandol in the reserves whilst he and Shelvey ripped apart Lewes. Is this one match against amateurs proof positive? I know now how you can say they may click.


    you could equally say the same about McLeod although by some miracle he has actually scored (had more starts etc tho I think)
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    I'm no fan of Mcleod but when he settles in to a game he does try and bring other players into it. From what I've seen of Dickson when he goes through a fallow phase in the match he's not able to face towards his goal, link play and keep ball. Dicko's all hustle and bustle facing their goal, which is great but no good as a lone man when the midfield is nowhere near. Mcleod keeps working, Dicko fades away in that position.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    Mcleod does too much of it an not enough shooting on target.. but also unsuited to 451 is my point, more often than not the ball comes straight back at you

    :)
  • cafcdan18
    cafcdan18 Posts: 3,664
    Think we are around the 28 day mark for Dickson, he made his debut for them on 19th september so think we can recall him from this weekend!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,226
    Burton has got a hernia it's on the O/S. Parky says he can play on with it for the time being. He will be out for 3 weeks when it gets worse and an op is needed.
  • NathanPrior
    NathanPrior Posts: 3,577
    My hernia took me like 8 weeks to recover from...hmm
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,557
    [cite]Posted By: NathanPrior[/cite]My hernia took me like 8 weeks to recover from...hmm
    you werent treated by the best though were you?
  • Stone
    Stone Posts: 3,026
    I would hazzard a guess that he'll take Burton out around the time of F.A. Cup 1st round week meaning he'll only miss maybe two league games max.

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  • 1 light
    1 light Posts: 48
    A mate of mine is good mates with dickson,he said dicksons attitude is all wrong,late for training due to goin out drinking,very flash and doesnt get on with parky and lazy in training,why do we want someone like that in our team.
  • Clearly needs his op, hasn't looked his best for a good few games now. Carlise away, northwich away, saints away. A lot of travelling coming up and 3 games we can probably do without him for. Get his op in now. I don't know what the recovery is like but get him back in time for MK Dons on the 14th if possible.
  • nigel
    nigel Posts: 2,454
    edited October 2009
    Really think he ought to be having the op today. Otherwise we risk getting ourselves into an Andy Gray-type situation. He can miss Carlisle , FA cup and JPT, MK Dons and probably Yeovil and target a return in the mid-week home game v Bristol Rovers on Nov 24.

    No use to us as he is at the moment and let's use Mooney while we've got him. Looked like he could be a handful from his brief appearances v 'uddersfield and the Gills.