At the end of the day, £11k a week over four years isn’t good business for us right now for a player as erratic as Small. Nathan understands that — and in Nathan we trust
Sad to see him go and I wish him all tge best, but I'm not actually seeing the great advantage in this transfer, unless Preston have a much bigger payroll. Fot us Thierry was a great little player and a big part of promotion, but he did have an end product that could really frustrate. There are certainly better players if we can attract and afford them, great.
Preston….. Hmmm…. Like Living in Sandbanks and choosing to go to Clacton for your Holidays.
Can’t, see him following in the Yann May or Taylor history of leavers we talk about years later.
The southeast is overcrowded & full of ‘me, me, me’ wankers. On £520k a year, I am sure if he wanted to, he could buy a lovely house in a lovely Lancashire village with lots of character and charm.
He could buy up half of Burnley - who cares ?
Or a really nice house in a beautiful Lancashire village, without a Greggs, vape shop, or Nandos in sight… like I said.
Surprised by that. I was convinced he'd stay once we clinched promotion, but it's most likely his mind was already made up.
I'm sure the recruitment team would've planned for this outcome & will have a replacement lined up
None of us know what the real situ is other than Small, his agent, Jones, Rowell etc
it could well be Preston said we’re really want you to be part of our team, you’ll be playing left wing back, we see you as being a big player for us and we’ll back that by offering you a 4-year contract worth £10k a week.
Charlton may have said we’d like you to stay part of our squad. Can’t say at this point you’ll be a starter, but your versatility will be a factor. We’ll offer you a 2-year contract worth £6.5k a week, with a 3rd year option if you play x games.
Now if that is the real story, does Small’s decision look the wrong one? I’ve absolutely no idea whether that’s the real situation btw, I’m just exampling why I suspect it isn’t a straight forward case of ‘he’s gone for the money’.
Give it a few weeks of our transfer business, and we will be saying "Thierry who"... We move on, and I am very confident Nathan will get us a replacement who will be better...
Slightly off topic, but do any of our fans on here actually join another team's forum when we sign one of their players? Has anyone joined the Blackpool forum today? Or Cardiff’s? I just find it a bit weird, really.
Anyway, back on topic!
Of course not. We have our own thread on whatnothervforums say about us, to save the aggro of having multiple accounts across the leagues. Nice to have visitors occasionally-Ringo Lion and his mates are always welcome.
Preston are developing an irritating habit of picking up one of our players after our play-off promotions. The hope was that our promotion would enable us to get closer to what was on offer elsewhere and that Thierry might be swayed by the benefits of continuity. Alas, it was not to be and the lure of Preston’s salary package and the security of a long term deal won the day. The player has to act in what he perceives to be in his best interests and only time will tell if he’s made the right call.
It’s a shame because Thierry is an entertaining player with pace and power, albeit one who is far from the finished article. He won’t be able to take as many liberties with opponents in the Championship, so a 4-year contract is a risk for Preston (even for an out of contract player), although he has significant potential if he can continue to improve his game.
We move on and I’m sure Nathan and the club have been preparing for this eventuality, not least because we’ve been trying unsuccessfully to persuade the player to sign a new deal for the last 12 months.
We’ll get some compensation for our role in his development. Although he’s only been with us for 18 months, I think that role has been significant and the England Under 20 call up may be useful in underscoring that. It would be good to secure some sort of sell-on clause, whether on a negotiated basis or at a tribunal.
I'll miss him taking a player on, having an hour to put a cross in and then thinking actually I fancy taking him on again.
All joking aside, a shame to lose him. He was an exciting player and with his whole career ahead of him can only get better. As has been said, I'd be more gutted losing Jones or Ramsay.
I thought he’d stay but he hasn’t and we move on. He’s not irreplaceable. Sideways move in my opinion and I feel he thinks he’s a better player than he actually is. His end product was pretty poor most of the time. I trust NJ/Chapple to find a suitable replacement.
And I don’t think NJ would have stayed/extended his stay if he didn’t think he was being sufficiently backed by the owners so I’m sure if he’d really wanted Small to stay we’d have found a way to ensure he did. Small has moved for the money, NJ obviously thinks what Small wanted can be better spent elsewhere.
Was hoping he'd sign and develop with us. No guarantee he'll be first choice at Preston. Anyway we move on, not much loyalty in football these days to get upset about losing him,just need to replace him now
I think I am right he has had 4 permanent homes in his short career, Everton, Southampton, Charlton, Preston. Essentially a smaller club at each move! If the pattern continues it will be Accrington up next.
How much do we think we got in compensation? 200k?
I have a strong suspicion that would be fairly optimistic
Not sure if this is the same as a development fee, but just found this online.
JAMES COLLINS
James Collins joined League Two club Shrewsbury Town as 21 year old striker in January 2011, having previously been an Aston Villa player (who made no first team appearances for Villa).
Quickly establishing himself as a first-team regular, James appeared 66 times in the League for Shrewsbury between 2011 and 2012, scoring 22 League goals. In the 2011/2012 season, Shrewsbury won promotion and James was their top scorer.
In the summer of 2012, only 18 months after signing for Shrewsbury, an out-of-contract James signed for Swindon Town, who themselves had just been promoted to League One.
The PFCC decided that Swindon Town should pay Shrewsbury an initial compensation fee of £140,000.
Additionally, further payments of £20,000 after 15, 30, 45 and 60 appearances (totalling up to £80,000) would be due.
Swindon would also pay Shrewsbury 20% of any profit it makes from selling the player to another club at any point in the future.
I’m probably in the minority here but I’m really not too worried about Thierry going. I think he was found out too easily in L1 and I think stepping up to the Championship may be too much for him. I’m not sure if he has much of a football IQ. Some players do, I don’t think he does. That’s why his end product was lacking so often. Because he just didn’t get it. Only the future will tell but I can see why Nathan Jones was prepared to let him go. I think he would have been ok as a squad player for us as he maybe learned the game more but he probably wanted more than that.
Totally bemused by this move as I see it as a step sideways ambition wise. If the amount of his wages is true I am sure we couldn't match it, which is also worrying seeing that I would assume is the bottom line for a half decent championship player we need to attract.
How much do we think we got in compensation? 200k?
I have a strong suspicion that would be fairly optimistic
Not sure if this is the same as a development fee, but just found this online.
JAMES COLLINS
James Collins joined League Two club Shrewsbury Town as 21 year old striker in January 2011, having previously been an Aston Villa player (who made no first team appearances for Villa).
Quickly establishing himself as a first-team regular, James appeared 66 times in the League for Shrewsbury between 2011 and 2012, scoring 22 League goals. In the 2011/2012 season, Shrewsbury won promotion and James was their top scorer.
In the summer of 2012, only 18 months after signing for Shrewsbury, an out-of-contract James signed for Swindon Town, who themselves had just been promoted to League One.
The PFCC decided that Swindon Town should pay Shrewsbury an initial compensation fee of £140,000.
Additionally, further payments of £20,000 after 15, 30, 45 and 60 appearances (totalling up to £80,000) would be due.
Swindon would also pay Shrewsbury 20% of any profit it makes from selling the player to another club at any point in the future.
Honestly if it's as good as that or even able to tot up to 200k its better than a kick in the teeth.
What I wonder is if it has to roll back to the clubs (Everton / Southampton )before us
Totally bemused by this move as I see it as a step sideways ambition wise. If the amount of his wages is true I am sure we couldn't match it, which is also worrying seeing that I would assume is the bottom line for a half decent championship player we need to attract.
Hopefully it's more that we didn't feel Small was worth a 4 year deal earning our top end wage, rather than we can't afford to pay £10k or so for any player.
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There are certainly better players if we can attract and afford them, great.
it could well be Preston said we’re really want you to be part of our team, you’ll be playing left wing back, we see you as being a big player for us and we’ll back that by offering you a 4-year contract worth £10k a week.
Charlton may have said we’d like you to stay part of our squad. Can’t say at this point you’ll be a starter, but your versatility will be a factor. We’ll offer you a 2-year contract worth £6.5k a week, with a 3rd year option if you play x games.
Now if that is the real story, does Small’s decision look the wrong one? I’ve absolutely no idea whether that’s the real situation btw, I’m just exampling why I suspect it isn’t a straight forward case of ‘he’s gone for the money’.
We move on, and I am very confident Nathan will get us a replacement who will be better...
Nice to have visitors occasionally-Ringo Lion and his mates are always welcome.
Not just for what he could offer us individually, but if he'd signed with us we'd have had that bit more stability within the squad.
Plenty more fish in the sea, I guess.
Last year Alfie May
This year ...
Hope it works out.
🎵 Thierry, wooo-oooh.
Thierry, wooo-ooooh.
His name's Thierry Small,
he fucking hates Blackpool. 🎵
I haven't read the whole thread so someone may have already passed on this lyrical gem.
It’s a shame because Thierry is an entertaining player with pace and power, albeit one who is far from the finished article. He won’t be able to take as many liberties with opponents in the Championship, so a 4-year contract is a risk for Preston (even for an out of contract player), although he has significant potential if he can continue to improve his game.
We move on and I’m sure Nathan and the club have been preparing for this eventuality, not least because we’ve been trying unsuccessfully to persuade the player to sign a new deal for the last 12 months.
We’ll get some compensation for our role in his development. Although he’s only been with us for 18 months, I think that role has been significant and the England Under 20 call up may be useful in underscoring that. It would be good to secure some sort of sell-on clause, whether on a negotiated basis or at a tribunal.
All joking aside, a shame to lose him. He was an exciting player and with his whole career ahead of him can only get better. As has been said, I'd be more gutted losing Jones or Ramsay.
And I don’t think NJ would have stayed/extended his stay if he didn’t think he was being sufficiently backed by the owners so I’m sure if he’d really wanted Small to stay we’d have found a way to ensure he did. Small has moved for the money, NJ obviously thinks what Small wanted can be better spent elsewhere.
Good luck Thierry but Preston? really?
Essentially a smaller club at each move! If the pattern continues it will be Accrington up next.
JAMES COLLINS
What I wonder is if it has to roll back to the clubs (Everton / Southampton )before us