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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,652
    cfgs said:
    Who is he talking about here? Can't see the previous post
    Whether us or Orient leaked news of our bid.
    Orient are out for every penny they can get and quite rightly so. If Charlton did make that,imo, below value bid then you have to expect Orient to put it out there.
    I don't think Orient will be unreasonable with their valuation. Just pay it and get him in
    Nothing wrong with a bid to test the water. I’m sure we knew that would be rejected so will have another bid ready closer to our maximum valuation. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,916
    cfgs said:
    Who is he talking about here? Can't see the previous post
    Whether us or Orient leaked news of our bid.
    Orient are out for every penny they can get and quite rightly so. If Charlton did make that,imo, below value bid then you have to expect Orient to put it out there.
    I don't think Orient will be unreasonable with their valuation. Just pay it and get him in
    Shame they weren’t out for every penny when they - possibly- sold there tickets in a way that left thousands unable to be sold by us at the final 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,872
    Do fear we’re going to find it a lot harder to get quality from the EFL over the line than many thought
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,951
    Obviously it wasn't us who leaked it. 

    Orient have every incentive to create a bidding war, and get a bigger fee. Galbraith's agent has every incentive too, as if he can get a richer club interested, then more wages for his client means more money for him too.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    Are there any players we could offer in part exchange? Alex Mitchell might be attractive to the O's and maybe loan one of our youngsters. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,652
    edited June 16
    I’m slightly encouraged that we haven’t heard anything since the leak. Could it mean we’ve increased bid and we’re now talking with Orient or does it just mean the £1.3 million was just a cheeky speculative bid and we have now dropped out ? 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,016
    Do fear we’re going to find it a lot harder to get quality from the EFL over the line than many thought
    Based on what? So far we've signed one player more or less completely under the radar. Cawley (the most reliable source) has made fairly strong links to two more, both of which apparently still seem to be still ongoing. Is the Galbraith interest leaking ideal, not really no, but does it seem to be any kind of deal-breaker, also no.

    At this point in time I genuinely don't see any sign to be overly concerned about. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,082
    Richard J said:
    Are there any players we could offer in part exchange? Alex Mitchell might be attractive to the O's and maybe loan one of our youngsters. 
    Kanu on loan could be an interesting makeweight to offer. Depends on who they keep striker wise. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,380
    Do fear we’re going to find it a lot harder to get quality from the EFL over the line than many thought
    yes .. a lot of lower league clubs now seem to have loadsa money to go after the talent that's available .. I hate to say this, BUT the fact that we just scrambled into the Championship might not make us an attractive proposition, unless like (say) e.g. M K Dons/Brum/Wexham we can offer big salaries .. I'll say it again, we surely need a big investment in players this close season .. as ever, we will see
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,209
    Do fear we’re going to find it a lot harder to get quality from the EFL over the line than many thought
    I hope every signing we make is hard fought as it a) means they were wanted by others, suggesting they are good players and b) suggests we didn't overpay just to get the deal done quickly. 

    Every summer we see and are told that some deals just take a long time to get done - various offers and counter offers, players mulling over different offers from different clubs, clubs or players quite rightly holding out to get the best deal they can, some deals being part of a chain where they only go through once every club has lined up and agreed a deal for a replacement player etc. etc. etc.

    We're scarred by years of bad recruitment and insufficient budgets, but I don't think there's a need for us to be too negative about our prospects. I think there's a project we can sell to signings, a manager that players (or the right types, at least) will want to play for, and while, of course, we will be working to a budget, nothing anyone has said suggest it's an unrealistic budget. We won't get all our first-choice targets but I have faith we'll get some of them.

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  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,892
    Richard J said:
    Are there any players we could offer in part exchange? Alex Mitchell might be attractive to the O's and maybe loan one of our youngsters. 
    Offer them Terry Taylor. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,892
    Richard J said:
    Are there any players we could offer in part exchange? Alex Mitchell might be attractive to the O's and maybe loan one of our youngsters. 
    Offer them Terry Taylor. 
    Edit, forgot he was injured
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,714
    Richard J said:
    Are there any players we could offer in part exchange? Alex Mitchell might be attractive to the O's and maybe loan one of our youngsters. 
    Ahadme? 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,280
    Do fear we’re going to find it a lot harder to get quality from the EFL over the line than many thought
    yes .. a lot of lower league clubs now seem to have loadsa money to go after the talent that's available .. I hate to say this, BUT the fact that we just scrambled into the Championship might not make us an attractive proposition, unless like (say) e.g. M K Dons/Brum/Wexham we can offer big salaries .. I'll say it again, we surely need a big investment in players this close season .. as ever, we will see
    I bet Orient, Stockport and Wycombe would have loved to 'scramble'  into the division above. I remember us 'scrambling' into the premiership after an epic against Sunderland. Not knocking what you are saying about incoming players, time will tell, but 'scrambling' is the worst description of a play off win that I have heard. If you mean we are late to the table, in terms of transfers, yes that's a fact, but just because we have been knocked back for Galbraith, doesn't mean the deal is dead or that we don't have a plan B. Once again, because we don't have any rumours, it's all doom and gloom, not necessarily so, in my humble opinion. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,714
    edited June 16
    Norwich have signed Harry Darling from Swansea so can forget him. Its a huge surprise that he's gone there seeing that he worked under Liam Manning at Milton Keynes.

    Wrexham have signed Ryan Hardie from Plymouth, another name who had been mentioned as a suggestion on here
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 635
    Richard J said:
    Are there any players we could offer in part exchange? Alex Mitchell might be attractive to the O's and maybe loan one of our youngsters. 
    Ahadme? 
    Think that would basically end our chances of ever negotiating with Leyton Orient again
  • Obviously it wasn't us who leaked it. 

    Orient have every incentive to create a bidding war, and get a bigger fee. Galbraith's agent has every incentive too, as if he can get a richer club interested, then more wages for his client means more money for him too.
    If his contract runs out next summer and he doesn’t get sold this window both club and agent will have to consider that he either gets sold in January for a much lower fee or he walks for free come summer 2026.

    its all well and good holding out for a higher bid if we have offered £1.3m and Orient rejected it but that could backfire if Charlton or no other club offers more. After all, it’s not just the fee that has to be taken into consideration, it’s the contract cost as well. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,951

    Wrexham have signed Ryan Hardie from Plymouth, another name who had been mentioned as a suggestion on here
    That's a good signing for Wrexham, a proven Championship player at a decent age, rather than a big name finishing their career. His wages will be affordable too.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,714
    Obviously it wasn't us who leaked it. 

    Orient have every incentive to create a bidding war, and get a bigger fee. Galbraith's agent has every incentive too, as if he can get a richer club interested, then more wages for his client means more money for him too.
    If his contract runs out next summer and he doesn’t get sold this window both club and agent will have to consider that he either gets sold in January for a much lower fee or he walks for free come summer 2026.

    its all well and good holding out for a higher bid if we have offered £1.3m and Orient rejected it but that could backfire if Charlton or no other club offers more. After all, it’s not just the fee that has to be taken into consideration, it’s the contract cost as well. 
    His Agent will know though, that if Galbraith chooses to leave on a free next summer, Ethan can technically ask for a higher signing on fee when negotiating as they'll know clubs wanting to sign him, wont have to pay a transfer fee... So there is the potential for more money to end up in Agent / Players pocket.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 680
    Obviously it wasn't us who leaked it. 

    Orient have every incentive to create a bidding war, and get a bigger fee. Galbraith's agent has every incentive too, as if he can get a richer club interested, then more wages for his client means more money for him too.
    If his contract runs out next summer and he doesn’t get sold this window both club and agent will have to consider that he either gets sold in January for a much lower fee or he walks for free come summer 2026.

    its all well and good holding out for a higher bid if we have offered £1.3m and Orient rejected it but that could backfire if Charlton or no other club offers more. After all, it’s not just the fee that has to be taken into consideration, it’s the contract cost as well. 
    The fact we’ve not heard of any other club rushing in to get him after our initial bid is encouraging signs. If any other club desperately wanted him as much as we did they would have surely put in a decent offer as soon as we had a first offer rejected 

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  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Norwich have signed Harry Darling from Swansea so can forget him. Its a huge surprise that he's gone there seeing that he worked under Liam Manning at Milton Keynes.

    Wrexham have signed Ryan Hardie from Plymouth, another name who had been mentioned as a suggestion on here
    Norwich got some good value loaning and then selling a player to marseille 14m +
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,951
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c9940v39xn9o

    An example of how Premier League youngsters can be hyped up because of who they play for, Matt Smith (the first one we loaned, the Man City one) who somehow has 19 Wales Caps, has just joined Newport.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,988
    Obviously it wasn't us who leaked it. 

    Orient have every incentive to create a bidding war, and get a bigger fee. Galbraith's agent has every incentive too, as if he can get a richer club interested, then more wages for his client means more money for him too.
    If his contract runs out next summer and he doesn’t get sold this window both club and agent will have to consider that he either gets sold in January for a much lower fee or he walks for free come summer 2026.

    its all well and good holding out for a higher bid if we have offered £1.3m and Orient rejected it but that could backfire if Charlton or no other club offers more. After all, it’s not just the fee that has to be taken into consideration, it’s the contract cost as well. 
    Some one will offer more. It is the nature of the Championship now days. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,714
    Richard J said:
    Are there any players we could offer in part exchange? Alex Mitchell might be attractive to the O's and maybe loan one of our youngsters. 
    Ahadme? 
    Think that would basically end our chances of ever negotiating with Leyton Orient again
    I mean they got to the Play-Off Final with Sean Clare in their side, they must be able to work their hoodoo magic on Gassan
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,272
    I’m slightly encouraged that we haven’t heard anything since the leak. Could it mean we’ve increased bid and we’re now talking with Orient or does it just mean the £1.3 million was just a cheeky speculative bid and we have now dropped out ? 
    It means we're not doing our business in public.
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 401
    edited June 16
    Do fear we’re going to find it a lot harder to get quality from the EFL over the line than many thought
    There are dozens of players who would improve our team in League One, the Scottish Premier and abroad. Plus loans and the odd perm from the Championship and Premier. If we only focus on three or four (all of which we know are sought by other clubs), then of course we will struggle.

    But I have confidence that Chappell has a long list of players under consideration, most of whom have never been mentioned by the experts on here and the clickbait websites.
    My guess is that, by the first league match, we will have strengthened the first team in five positions, and the squad by another couple on top of that.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,081
    Would imagine that Charlton are pissed off with Orient releasing that a bid had been made, would not be a great surprise to withdraw our offer and go after other targets .. perhaps see what the situation is in the final few hours of the window given he only across the river .. and Orient might be a little more desperate 
    Doubtful though. In 2025 i don't think you can really be angry at a club for leaking a bid because it's naive to think Galbraith's agent won't have told other interested clubs anyway.

    I know that Rich said we're looking to do things 'cloak and dagger' but i'd say that's quite tough because the agent will almost certainly be alerting other clubs (especially ones with more money than us) as it's in his interest to have more clubs bidding.
    Orient leaked it all day long.
    I don't doubt that for a second, i just don't think it really matters because even if they hadn't, his agent will almost certainly be keeping other clubs updated anyway.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,144
    I’m slightly encouraged that we haven’t heard anything since the leak. Could it mean we’ve increased bid and we’re now talking with Orient or does it just mean the £1.3 million was just a cheeky speculative bid and we have now dropped out ? 
    It means we're not doing our business in public.
    Good to hear 
    That would be disgusting 

    This isn’t Katrien’s Charlton anymore. 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,292
    Swisdom said:
    I saw Ricky Jade Jones had angered Darragh MacAnthony by signing on a free for St Pauli - meaning Peterborough don’t get a big fee (like when Aribo went to Rangers as it’s overseas).

    I think his financial issues are starting to hit home now

    I am not a fan of MacAnthony himself but have always admired the Peterborough model of plucking kids and under rated players from non league and transforming them.

    It's a shame that in today's football environment, this model could fail because the likes of RJJ, Poku and Kyrianu etc have let their contracts run down and left.   Looks like Poku may go to Rangers now which will mean minimal compensation for him and RJJ.  That is a huge blow to such a small club and probably costs them £3-6M depending on their respective values.

    These players are looking after themselves like most would and fair play to them. However, it if means clubs like Peterborough fail or change tac it is at huge detriment to the wider football pyramid imo.