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  • SteveACS said:
    Sark99 said:
    Surely a man with the connections of @Airman Brown could facilitate a Ramsgate v Charlton friendly.

    That would be a perfect fixture in July / Aug.

    The Rams are now in the same league as Welling so a similar level to what we usually play in the early stages of pre-season.

    The larkfield coach could be the last pick up for this one too!
    Welling United did get relegated, so the gap between Charlton and Welling is wider than it has been for a long time.
    We played Dartford last season, who were at the level Welling are at now.
    But there is a contractual obligation as our U21s play at Princes Park. It wouldn't matter what division Dartford are in...

    The opening pre-season games are looseners so the level of opposition should not be a concern.
  • edited June 19
    fenaddick said:
    Includes a game against a Croatian team. Then off to Wealdstone upon our return. Club also confirm no home friendly to help the pitch 
  • Gorica game timed perfectly to clash with the British and Irish Lions first game v Australia. 
  • Gorica game timed perfectly to clash with the British and Irish Lions first game v Australia. 

  • No pre-season game at The Valley 
  • Is there still a free Saturday before the league season starts?
  • Is there still a free Saturday before the league season starts?
    Yes.
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  • Yes, League One team probably. Could be wide of the mark but doubt it will be Orient or Wycombe which leaves 1 local alternative 
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Includes a game against a Croatian team. Then off to Wealdstone upon our return. Club also confirm no home friendly to help the pitch 
    In a similar vein we will also exit all cup competitions at the earliest opportunity ! 😉

    Does beg the question why persist with the end of season pitch hires if it needs that break. 
    The answer to your last question is money 
  • Anyone know when the players are back for pre-season training ? What with our season not finishing until late May & the new season not starting until the 2nd week of August I wondered if the players dont come back a week later than usual, seeing as the 1st PSF isn't until 12th July. 
  • Anyone know when the players are back for pre-season training ? What with our season not finishing until late May & the new season not starting until the 2nd week of August I wondered if the players dont come back a week later than usual, seeing as the 1st PSF isn't until 12th July. 
    Sure one of the players said 4/5 weeks after the final 
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Includes a game against a Croatian team. Then off to Wealdstone upon our return. Club also confirm no home friendly to help the pitch 
    In a similar vein we will also exit all cup competitions at the earliest opportunity ! 😉

    Does beg the question why persist with the end of season pitch hires if it needs that break. 
    The answer to your last question is money 
    Well yes but wouldn’t a home friendly also be cash positive?
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Includes a game against a Croatian team. Then off to Wealdstone upon our return. Club also confirm no home friendly to help the pitch 
    In a similar vein we will also exit all cup competitions at the earliest opportunity ! 😉

    Does beg the question why persist with the end of season pitch hires if it needs that break. 
    The answer to your last question is money 
    Well yes but wouldn’t a home friendly also be cash positive?
    Not necessarily, you need to employ staff in a way you don’t for private pitch hire and attendances will be low. Less than 4,000 attended the last one 
  • Yes, League One team probably. Could be wide of the mark but doubt it will be Orient or Wycombe which leaves 1 local alternative 
    I was thinking Hibs away
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Includes a game against a Croatian team. Then off to Wealdstone upon our return. Club also confirm no home friendly to help the pitch 
    In a similar vein we will also exit all cup competitions at the earliest opportunity ! 😉

    Does beg the question why persist with the end of season pitch hires if it needs that break. 
    The answer to your last question is money 
    Well yes but wouldn’t a home friendly also be cash positive?
    Not necessarily, you need to employ staff in a way you don’t for private pitch hire and attendances will be low. Less than 4,000 attended the last one 
    Plus some clubs will charge a fee. I think a friendly with Spurs did not take place because they wanted to charge a high fee a couple if seasons ago.
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    Yes, League One team probably. Could be wide of the mark but doubt it will be Orient or Wycombe which leaves 1 local alternative 
    League 1 and 2 starts the Saturday before our season starts
    As does the Scottish Premiership. 

    Which with a week to go leaves a behind closed door friendly at the training ground against a Premier League team or possibly a game against a fellow Championship side away from home.

    Gof previous when we played Bolton in a pre season friendly back in 2015 when both clubs were relegated from the Championship at the end of that season 
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  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Includes a game against a Croatian team. Then off to Wealdstone upon our return. Club also confirm no home friendly to help the pitch 
    In a similar vein we will also exit all cup competitions at the earliest opportunity ! 😉

    Does beg the question why persist with the end of season pitch hires if it needs that break. 
    The answer to your last question is money 
    Well yes but wouldn’t a home friendly also be cash positive?
    Not necessarily, you need to employ staff in a way you don’t for private pitch hire and attendances will be low. Less than 4,000 attended the last one 
    And you have to pay full police costs so unlikely to make money unless it is a team with a big away following but they charge more.
  • shirty5 said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Yes, League One team probably. Could be wide of the mark but doubt it will be Orient or Wycombe which leaves 1 local alternative 
    League 1 and 2 starts the Saturday before our season starts
    As does the Scottish Premiership. 

    Which with a week to go leaves a behind closed door friendly at the training ground against a Premier League team or possibly a game against a fellow Championship side away from home.

    Gof previous when we played Bolton in a pre season friendly back in 2015 when both clubs were relegated from the Championship at the end of that season 
    Or an away game against a PL team like Brentford or Fulham maybe? 
  • edited June 19
    fenaddick said:
    shirty5 said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Yes, League One team probably. Could be wide of the mark but doubt it will be Orient or Wycombe which leaves 1 local alternative 
    League 1 and 2 starts the Saturday before our season starts
    As does the Scottish Premiership. 

    Which with a week to go leaves a behind closed door friendly at the training ground against a Premier League team or possibly a game against a fellow Championship side away from home.

    Gof previous when we played Bolton in a pre season friendly back in 2015 when both clubs were relegated from the Championship at the end of that season 
    Or an away game against a PL team like Brentford or Fulham maybe? 
    Brentford away at QPR that weekend. Fulham is a possibility 
  • shirty5 said:
    fenaddick said:
    shirty5 said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Yes, League One team probably. Could be wide of the mark but doubt it will be Orient or Wycombe which leaves 1 local alternative 
    League 1 and 2 starts the Saturday before our season starts
    As does the Scottish Premiership. 

    Which with a week to go leaves a behind closed door friendly at the training ground against a Premier League team or possibly a game against a fellow Championship side away from home.

    Gof previous when we played Bolton in a pre season friendly back in 2015 when both clubs were relegated from the Championship at the end of that season 
    Or an away game against a PL team like Brentford or Fulham maybe? 
    Brentford away at QPR that weekend 
    To be fair I just plucked names out of my head, theory stands though 
  • So we usually host a home fixture even though they are loss making. 

    On that basis not sure why we bother and don’t just play away somewhere given the cost cutting has been very evident by a string of recent owners. 

    But I take the point the corporate hires are easy income by comparison. 
  • So we usually host a home fixture even though they are loss making. 

    On that basis not sure why we bother and don’t just play away somewhere given the cost cutting has been very evident by a string of recent owners. 

    But I take the point the corporate hires are easy income by comparison. 
    I think we host them because fans like them (even if they don’t show up) and it must be good for new players to get used to the surroundings, possibly helps stadium staff get back into the swing of things a bit too. I think they’re nice overall but this season the quality of the pitch has to come first 
  • fenaddick said:
    So we usually host a home fixture even though they are loss making. 

    On that basis not sure why we bother and don’t just play away somewhere given the cost cutting has been very evident by a string of recent owners. 

    But I take the point the corporate hires are easy income by comparison. 
    I think we host them because fans like them (even if they don’t show up) and it must be good for new players to get used to the surroundings, possibly helps stadium staff get back into the swing of things a bit too. I think they’re nice overall but this season the quality of the pitch has to come first 
    is an argument I agree. 
    But if those are the real rationale you’d suffer the loss of a few thousand from corporate hires and get the pitch tended to as the priority id have thought and get the PSF benefits still. 

    But maybe the new floodlights will necessitate heavy plant / kit on the pitch so timing means it has to be this way. 

    More cynically the calibre of team we want to play want too much cash so away it must be. In which case so be it and may be the likely future pattern. 
  • fenaddick said:
    So we usually host a home fixture even though they are loss making. 

    On that basis not sure why we bother and don’t just play away somewhere given the cost cutting has been very evident by a string of recent owners. 

    But I take the point the corporate hires are easy income by comparison. 
    I think we host them because fans like them (even if they don’t show up) and it must be good for new players to get used to the surroundings, possibly helps stadium staff get back into the swing of things a bit too. I think they’re nice overall but this season the quality of the pitch has to come first 
    is an argument I agree. 
    But if those are the real rationale you’d suffer the loss of a few thousand from corporate hires and get the pitch tended to as the priority id have thought and get the PSF benefits still. 

    But maybe the new floodlights will necessitate heavy plant / kit on the pitch so timing means it has to be this way. 

    More cynically the calibre of team we want to play want too much cash so away it must be. In which case so be it and may be the likely future pattern. 
    I think it’s more that the pitch didn’t have enough time to bed in last year due to the Portsmouth game so it needs fixing 
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    So we usually host a home fixture even though they are loss making. 

    On that basis not sure why we bother and don’t just play away somewhere given the cost cutting has been very evident by a string of recent owners. 

    But I take the point the corporate hires are easy income by comparison. 
    I think we host them because fans like them (even if they don’t show up) and it must be good for new players to get used to the surroundings, possibly helps stadium staff get back into the swing of things a bit too. I think they’re nice overall but this season the quality of the pitch has to come first 
    is an argument I agree. 
    But if those are the real rationale you’d suffer the loss of a few thousand from corporate hires and get the pitch tended to as the priority id have thought and get the PSF benefits still. 

    But maybe the new floodlights will necessitate heavy plant / kit on the pitch so timing means it has to be this way. 

    More cynically the calibre of team we want to play want too much cash so away it must be. In which case so be it and may be the likely future pattern. 
    I think it’s more that the pitch didn’t have enough time to bed in last year due to the Portsmouth game so it needs fixing 
    But if only that you’d forgoe the modest corporate hires income too. 
  • shirty5 said:
    fenaddick said:
    shirty5 said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Yes, League One team probably. Could be wide of the mark but doubt it will be Orient or Wycombe which leaves 1 local alternative 
    League 1 and 2 starts the Saturday before our season starts
    As does the Scottish Premiership. 

    Which with a week to go leaves a behind closed door friendly at the training ground against a Premier League team or possibly a game against a fellow Championship side away from home.

    Gof previous when we played Bolton in a pre season friendly back in 2015 when both clubs were relegated from the Championship at the end of that season 
    Or an away game against a PL team like Brentford or Fulham maybe? 
    Brentford away at QPR that weekend. Fulham is a possibility 
    Fulham are apparently at a training camp in Portugal.

    I think it's doubtful we'll play a PL team that weekend, as nearly all of them have their schedules planned well in advance. The only PL side i can see who don't currently have a game that weekend is Palace, so i guess a behind closed doors game v them could be a possibility.
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