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  • The riverside down in Eynsford used to be a nice place to sit and watch the world go by. Now it’s full of rubbish and yobs chucking water in people’s open top cars. Apparently a bride and groom coming out of the nearby church got a bucket of water over them too. 
    Having said that, I’m outside Cobham services at the moment and a group of kids around 12yrs old were just leaving and one of them left some rubbish on the table. The others had a right go at her and she put it in a bin. 
    Maybe there’s some hope with the next generation.
    The bride is a former colleague with whom I'm still vaguely in touch. She seemed quite sanguine by the time she told me about it. Unwise of the perpetrator though - her husband is a soldier ( or was, I can't remember). I'd be storing some revenge up for that little twat, and I suspect he might.
  • Motorways is where I notice it most when I come over.
    All the verges are absolute packed with litter.
    I'm guessing councils and highway agencies have just cut the cleaners because it’s the same throughout the UK.
    Ireland is noticeably different but I think that’s mainly down to the Tidy Towns initiatives.
    Sad.
  • At last a thread where we can all talk rubbish and get away with it...so far, 🙄
  • Seeing people drop litter is one of the occasions when I wish I was a double hard bastard who had the cojones to back up telling a scrote (or scrotess) to pick it up. 
    Ha ha but you don’t need to be a hard bastard. I remember my Dad once picking up something that was thrown out of a car window and throwing it back in, lol. 

    I have once or twice picked things up and taken them back to the person who dropped it, saying something politely like ’sorry but you dropped this.’
    I did exactly that in Southwark Street, had two blokes in my face telling me where I could put it.  
  • Apparently in Japan it’s considered that when you buy something like a chocolate bar you own it including the wrapper and it’s your responsibility for it…so it’s completely normal that people take the wrapper home with them and dispose of it there.  Main reason everywhere looks so neat and tidy.
  • CafcWest said:
    Apparently in Japan it’s considered that when you buy something like a chocolate bar you own it including the wrapper and it’s your responsibility for it…
    It is here isn't it?
  • Litter is a problem everywhere, lazy, ignorant people too stupid or lazy to clear up after themselves 
  • Litter is a problem everywhere, lazy, ignorant people too stupid or lazy to clear up after themselves 
    A sad reflection on the attitude of a significant minority of people in this country.
  • IdleHans said:
    Penalty for a second offence should be summary execution on the spot. That'll learn em. 
    But but there'll be heads littering the place then  ! Too big for a litter picker like ours.
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  • What happens after games on match days these days with litter, anyone know? Does the council clear up with the club paying, or do charlton staff do it? I think there used to be an issue as it was something local residents raised when they got the chance I think. 

    Here's a picture of the valley from week before last, looking majestic, and notably (surprisingly?) no litter in sight. The trees are looking especially luscious too i thought.


  • Motorways is where I notice it most when I come over.
    All the verges are absolute packed with litter.
    I'm guessing councils and highway agencies have just cut the cleaners because it’s the same throughout the UK.
    Ireland is noticeably different but I think that’s mainly down to the Tidy Towns initiatives.
    Sad.
    Sadly, the A21 that we use frequently , is a good/bad example of this. I'd love to take on a stretch of the road and make a difference but it's too risky of course. However, the local council do close parts of it overnight at times to tackle the worst of the litter but it's soon just as bad.

    We often take a plastic sack & litter picker with us when we walk into Wadhurst or take the family dog out and the youngest grandkids enjoy helping during school hols, especially when there's an ice cream at the end of it. 

    A couple of summers ago we joined a group tackling part of the beach in Eastbourne which was very satisfying as well as decent exercise.
  • edited July 14
    I'm afraid it is all over the country. The cause is everything that has been mentioned and more. Such a shame that even locally people do not clean up after their dogs, essentially shitting on their own doorstep. 
    I was in a services this weekend, and found a quieter place to sit outside. I'd finished my coffee and snack and looked around for a rubbish bin, not one in sight. I looked around the car park, none there either. The only bins were by the entrance. So I went out of my way to use them, but I did mention to my son not many people would bother and you could see the rubbish strewn about the car park.
    Whilst some people might never use a bin, some are mainly lazy and any opportunity not to bother is taken .
    We often walk into the countryside from our house, a few nice walks to the local pubs. One of these uses a little part of a country road. It amazes me how many beer cans, takeaway containers and soft drinks cans are thrown from car windows. It has come to the point where I take a plastic bag and litter picker with me to at least remove some of this before the farmer shreds it all whenever the verges are trimmed.
    I think we need another keep Britain tidy push , people in general don't seem to care any more.

    This caring is also true of keeping outside ones house tidy, just because the pavement it verge is not yours should not mean you cannot give it a sweep or trim once a week or so. It is always someone else's problem these days.
  • If you're able to use Instagram, this guy is superb. He does such a great job cleaning up his local area. 

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLu3Tp4sJgN/?igsh=anM4dWdoemQxcGF6
  • If people can take stuff to a place, they can take the rubbish home with them, it's not difficult. Too many self entitled idiots who think it's somebody else's job to cleat up after them. 

    They go to a nice place because it's nice, then go and ruin it for others.  If a bin is full  take it home don't leave it piled up on the ground. Councils are strapped for cash so people shouldn't say it's their job, it needs everyone to take responsibility for their own actions.

    I saw on tv that one council, can't remember where, is using AI to film vehicles from which litter is thrown and fining the owner. Apparently it has cut littering by quite a bit.

    Roadside verges are a disgusting mess because low life scum throw out anything they don't want. Makes my blood boil.
    “Low life scum” sums it up for me, people that drop litter are a shit stain on society 
  • CafcWest said:
    Apparently in Japan it’s considered that when you buy something like a chocolate bar you own it including the wrapper and it’s your responsibility for it…
    It is here isn't it?
    Technically - but it’s not ingrained in the culture like it is in Japan - people think differently …
  • You can always tell when it has been a warm weekend by the amount of discarded shit left in Danson Park to view on Monday morning

  • Just curious whether an increasing litter problem is simply a London issue or are other areas affected? 

    So much rubbish is not cleared up in Greenwich and Lewisham - assume this is all down to cost cutting.
    Nothing to do with cost cutting and everything to do with the people that drop litter.
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