Wow……what an outfit, playing some sparkling stuff. Going to be very difficult to choose our starting squad for the first test next Saturday because every last one of them has been outstanding.👏👊
Have watched all the games, building momentum and were brilliant today.
Be interesting to see if Pollock starts next week. Gut feeling says he won’t. Will be on the bench though. I should imagine Farrell will already (barring injuries have decided on 12 of the 15 starters.
Didn’t catch any of it but saw that possession was 50/50 so sounds like they were not only clinical going forward but strong and disciplined out of possession
Can't believe Ben White won't play for the England football team but he'll play rugby for the Lions.
Not on.
This Ben White could have played for the England rugby team and did at pretty much all ages apart from a full cap - born and raised in Stoke (Scottish grandmother). I know his dad well.
Earl, Jones and Morgan caught the eye but everybody played well against, lets be honest, a poor set up of Kiwi hopefuls and want to be Wallabies. Hope Pollock makes the bench as his speed, of thought and on the run, will be giving the Aussie management headaches.
So far this tour has been a joke, games against understrength opposition in-between flying across the vast Aussie outback. More important for me, is that before setting out for Oz, the Lions played Argentina in Dublin, Argentina won. An essentially reserve/developing England, short of its Lions contingent, has beaten Argentina, in Argentina, twice over the past two Saturdays, both great performances with a lot of newcomers having games to remember. These two games made for much better viewing than the tepid fare put out so far by the Oz teams and the Lions This now gives England coach/selector/manager Steve Borthwick a nice headache, who to select for the autumn internationals.
So far this tour has been a joke, games against understrength opposition in-between flying across the vast Aussie outback. More important for me, is that before setting out for Oz, the Lions played Argentina in Dublin, Argentina won. An essentially reserve/developing England, short of its Lions contingent, has beaten Argentina, in Argentina, twice over the past two Saturdays, both great performances with a lot of newcomers having games to remember. These two games made for much better viewing than the tepid fare put out so far by the Oz teams and the Lions This now gives England coach/selector/manager Steve Borthwick a nice headache, who to select for the autumn internationals.
So far this tour has been a joke, games against understrength opposition in-between flying across the vast Aussie outback. More important for me, is that before setting out for Oz, the Lions played Argentina in Dublin, Argentina won. An essentially reserve/developing England, short of its Lions contingent, has beaten Argentina, in Argentina, twice over the past two Saturdays, both great performances with a lot of newcomers having games to remember. These two games made for much better viewing than the tepid fare put out so far by the Oz teams and the Lions This now gives England coach/selector/manager Steve Borthwick a nice headache, who to select for the autumn internationals.
Wow…..that’s very harsh Lincs.🫤
'Arsh but fair i m o .. I have not been a Lions fan for a long time, reasons far too long to go into here, except to say far too many compromises and too much bullshit surrounding this outmoded concept, all my OPINION of course. Other folks think it's a wonderful concept, and good luck to them
So far this tour has been a joke, games against understrength opposition in-between flying across the vast Aussie outback. More important for me, is that before setting out for Oz, the Lions played Argentina in Dublin, Argentina won. An essentially reserve/developing England, short of its Lions contingent, has beaten Argentina, in Argentina, twice over the past two Saturdays, both great performances with a lot of newcomers having games to remember. These two games made for much better viewing than the tepid fare put out so far by the Oz teams and the Lions This now gives England coach/selector/manager Steve Borthwick a nice headache, who to select for the autumn internationals.
Wow…..that’s very harsh Lincs.🫤
'Arsh but fair i m o .. I have not been a Lions fan for a long time, reasons far too long to go into here, except to say far too many compromises and too much bullshit surrounding this outmoded concept, all my OPINION of course. Other folks think it's a wonderful concept, and good luck to them
My great uncle Edward (Teddy) captained them twice…..early 1900’s. Born in Aberdare and played regularly for Swansea. Played for Wales 16 times and scored 14 tries. He was a doctor and later came to London to work at Guys I think it was, whilst there he played for London Welsh.
So far this tour has been a joke, games against understrength opposition in-between flying across the vast Aussie outback. More important for me, is that before setting out for Oz, the Lions played Argentina in Dublin, Argentina won. An essentially reserve/developing England, short of its Lions contingent, has beaten Argentina, in Argentina, twice over the past two Saturdays, both great performances with a lot of newcomers having games to remember. These two games made for much better viewing than the tepid fare put out so far by the Oz teams and the Lions This now gives England coach/selector/manager Steve Borthwick a nice headache, who to select for the autumn internationals.
Wow…..that’s very harsh Lincs.🫤
'Arsh but fair i m o .. I have not been a Lions fan for a long time, reasons far too long to go into here, except to say far too many compromises and too much bullshit surrounding this outmoded concept, all my OPINION of course. Other folks think it's a wonderful concept, and good luck to them
My great uncle Edward (Teddy) captained them twice…..early 1900’s. Born in Aberdare and played regularly for Swansea. Played for Wales 16 times and scored 14 tries. He was a doctor and later came to London to work at Guys I think it was, whilst there he played for London Welsh.
That's interesting Stuart, so you have rugby in your bloodline lol .. as the old joke goes 'give blood, play rugby' .. hope you're well and raring to go for the new season
EDIT .. on the subject of London Welsh, that club's players, under John Dawes captaincy in 1971 was the foundation of the best Lions squad, arguably of all time, and the only one so far to win in New Zealand. Plus of course the team had the 'immortal' Barry John and Gareth Edwards. This was in the 'amateur' era, and i m o the whole Lions concept belongs in that era and not in the contemporary VERY professional one
EDIT EDIT: This is uncle Teddy: Taken from the Lions website
1904 Teddy Morgan (Lion #114, Wales) v Australia & New Zealand
Welsh international wing Teddy Morgan took over the captaincy on the 1904 Tour of Australia and New Zealand after original choice David Bedell-Sivright broke his leg in the opening game.
In a highly successful Tour, The British & Irish Lions won all three Tests against Australia but lost the contest with the All Blacks.
Morgan, who made 16 appearances for Wales, is believed to have led his team in singing the Welsh national anthem in response to the All Blacks’ haka during the 1905 tour of the Original All Blacks to Britain – the first time a national anthem had been sung at a sporting event.
Sadly he was 69 when he died in East Anglia somewhere, so sadly I never got to meet him as I was only a year old. He had a brother William, (4 years younger), who also played for Wales and The Lions as well as Cardiff, Guys Hospital and London Welsh, like Teddy he was born in Aberdare and maybe he was a doctor too…..I don’t know.
Sadly he was 69 when he died in East Anglia somewhere, so sadly I never got to meet him as I was only a year old. He had a brother William, (4 years younger), who also played for Wales and The Lions as well as Cardiff, Guys Hospital and London Welsh, like Teddy he was born in Aberdare and maybe he was a doctor too…..I don’t know.
Thanks for that Stuart, you have had some very talented, very interesting relations
Sadly he was 69 when he died in East Anglia somewhere, so sadly I never got to meet him as I was only a year old. He had a brother William, (4 years younger), who also played for Wales and The Lions as well as Cardiff, Guys Hospital and London Welsh, like Teddy he was born in Aberdare and maybe he was a doctor too…..I don’t know.
Thanks for that extra info bm. I would still like to know what his profession was, especially as, like Teddy, he also played for Guys Hospital.
Can't find any evidence of his profession - but did find details of Teddy and William's nephew, Guy, who also played for and captained Wales.
MORGAN, EDWARD ('E.T. '; 1880 - 1949), rugby player
Name: Edward Morgan Pseudonym: E.t. Date of birth: 1880 Date of death: 1949 Gender: Male Occupation: rugby player Area of activity: Sports and Leisure Pursuits Author: Gareth W. Williams
Born 22 May 1880 at Aber-nant, Cynon valley, Glamorganshire, and
educated at Christ College Brecon and Guy's Hospital, London. Dr ' Teddy
' (thus ' E.T.') Morgan scored the most historic try in the history of
the game in Wales, if not the most remarkable one ever. It was his try
which secured a 3-0 win for Wales over the All Blacks of New Zealand in
Cardiff on 16 December 1905. Not only was he exceptionally fast but he
could deceive his opponents with a skilful dummy pass and sidestep. He
could tackle and kick well. He came to the notice of the national
selectors when he scored three tries for Newport against Blackheath in
October 1901. He is usually associated with the London Welsh and Guy's
Hospital. He scored 14 tries in his 16 international matches between
1902 and 1908. ' E.T. ' and William Morris Llewellyn (Pen-y-graig), a
fellow-pupil at Christ College, formed the best partnership ever seen on
the wings for Wales. In 1904 he scored in every international match and
went on tour to Australia and New Zealand with the British team. He
played against South Africa in 1906. He died 1 September 1949 in North
Walsham, Norfolk.
His brother WILLIAM LLEWELLYN MORGAN (9 March
1884 - 11 April 1960) played rugby for Wales in 1910, as did his nephew
William Guy Morgan, 1927-30.
So far this tour has been a joke, games against understrength opposition in-between flying across the vast Aussie outback. More important for me, is that before setting out for Oz, the Lions played Argentina in Dublin, Argentina won. An essentially reserve/developing England, short of its Lions contingent, has beaten Argentina, in Argentina, twice over the past two Saturdays, both great performances with a lot of newcomers having games to remember. These two games made for much better viewing than the tepid fare put out so far by the Oz teams and the Lions This now gives England coach/selector/manager Steve Borthwick a nice headache, who to select for the autumn internationals.
Wow…..that’s very harsh Lincs.🫤
'Arsh but fair i m o .. I have not been a Lions fan for a long time, reasons far too long to go into here, except to say far too many compromises and too much bullshit surrounding this outmoded concept, all my OPINION of course. Other folks think it's a wonderful concept, and good luck to them
My great uncle Edward (Teddy) captained them twice…..early 1900’s. Born in Aberdare and played regularly for Swansea. Played for Wales 16 times and scored 14 tries. He was a doctor and later came to London to work at Guys I think it was, whilst there he played for London Welsh.
That's interesting Stuart, so you have rugby in your bloodline lol .. as the old joke goes 'give blood, play rugby' .. hope you're well and raring to go for the new season
EDIT .. on the subject of London Welsh, that club's players, under John Dawes captaincy in 1971 was the foundation of the best Lions squad, arguably of all time, and the only one so far to win in New Zealand. Plus of course the team had the 'immortal' Barry John and Gareth Edwards. This was in the 'amateur' era, and i m o the whole Lions concept belongs in that era and not in the contemporary VERY professional one
EDIT EDIT: This is uncle Teddy: Taken from the Lions website
1904 Teddy Morgan (Lion #114, Wales) v Australia & New Zealand
Welsh international wing Teddy Morgan took over the captaincy on the 1904 Tour of Australia and New Zealand after original choice David Bedell-Sivright broke his leg in the opening game.
In a highly successful Tour, The British & Irish Lions won all three Tests against Australia but lost the contest with the All Blacks.
Morgan, who made 16 appearances for Wales, is believed to have led his team in singing the Welsh national anthem in response to the All Blacks’ haka during the 1905 tour of the Original All Blacks to Britain – the first time a national anthem had been sung at a sporting event.
Barry John and Gareth Edward’s were indeed immortal - have fond memories of that NZ tour. Together their partnership ran rings round the opposition. A friend, a fervent All Black supporter, actually named his new son Gareth after the Lions half back.
Barry John would sometimes run backwards before heading for the try line and very elusive. Highly entertaining to watch.
The thing is, if England or Ireland toured Australia they could win a series. They might not, but they could. Australia are good but not that good. There is no way the Lions should lose this series with the players at their disposal.
A somewhat predictable result, Aussie rugby not in a good place atm.
Its better than it was a few years ago - they dropped down the rankings but are back up to 6th between England and Argentina. They fell as low as 10th in 2023 and 24
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Not on.
This Ben White could have played for the England rugby team and did at pretty much all ages apart from a full cap - born and raised in Stoke (Scottish grandmother). I know his dad well.
More important for me, is that before setting out for Oz, the Lions played Argentina in Dublin, Argentina won.
An essentially reserve/developing England, short of its Lions contingent, has beaten Argentina, in Argentina, twice over the past two Saturdays, both great performances with a lot of newcomers having games to remember. These two games made for much better viewing than the tepid fare put out so far by the Oz teams and the Lions
This now gives England coach/selector/manager Steve Borthwick a nice headache, who to select for the autumn internationals.
Born in Aberdare and played regularly for Swansea.
Played for Wales 16 times and scored 14 tries.
He was a doctor and later came to London to work at Guys I think it was, whilst there he played for London Welsh.
EDIT .. on the subject of London Welsh, that club's players, under John Dawes captaincy in 1971 was the foundation of the best Lions squad, arguably of all time, and the only one so far to win in New Zealand. Plus of course the team had the 'immortal' Barry John and Gareth Edwards.
This was in the 'amateur' era, and i m o the whole Lions concept belongs in that era and not in the contemporary VERY professional one
EDIT EDIT: This is uncle Teddy: Taken from the Lions website
1904 Teddy Morgan (Lion #114, Wales) v Australia & New Zealand
Welsh international wing Teddy Morgan took over the captaincy on the 1904 Tour of Australia and New Zealand after original choice David Bedell-Sivright broke his leg in the opening game.
In a highly successful Tour, The British & Irish Lions won all three Tests against Australia but lost the contest with the All Blacks.
Morgan, who made 16 appearances for Wales, is believed to have led his team in singing the Welsh national anthem in response to the All Blacks’ haka during the 1905 tour of the Original All Blacks to Britain – the first time a national anthem had been sung at a sporting event.
He had a brother William, (4 years younger), who also played for Wales and The Lions as well as Cardiff, Guys Hospital and London Welsh, like Teddy he was born in Aberdare and maybe he was a doctor too…..I don’t know.
I would still like to know what his profession was, especially as, like Teddy, he also played for Guys Hospital.
MORGAN, EDWARD ('E.T. '; 1880 - 1949), rugby player
Pseudonym: E.t.
Date of birth: 1880
Date of death: 1949
Gender: Male
Occupation: rugby player
Area of activity: Sports and Leisure Pursuits
Author: Gareth W. Williams
Born 22 May 1880 at Aber-nant, Cynon valley, Glamorganshire, and educated at Christ College Brecon and Guy's Hospital, London. Dr ' Teddy ' (thus ' E.T.') Morgan scored the most historic try in the history of the game in Wales, if not the most remarkable one ever. It was his try which secured a 3-0 win for Wales over the All Blacks of New Zealand in Cardiff on 16 December 1905. Not only was he exceptionally fast but he could deceive his opponents with a skilful dummy pass and sidestep. He could tackle and kick well. He came to the notice of the national selectors when he scored three tries for Newport against Blackheath in October 1901. He is usually associated with the London Welsh and Guy's Hospital. He scored 14 tries in his 16 international matches between 1902 and 1908. ' E.T. ' and William Morris Llewellyn (Pen-y-graig), a fellow-pupil at Christ College, formed the best partnership ever seen on the wings for Wales. In 1904 he scored in every international match and went on tour to Australia and New Zealand with the British team. He played against South Africa in 1906. He died 1 September 1949 in North Walsham, Norfolk.
His brother WILLIAM LLEWELLYN MORGAN (9 March 1884 - 11 April 1960) played rugby for Wales in 1910, as did his nephew William Guy Morgan, 1927-30.
Barry John would sometimes run backwards before heading for the try line and very elusive. Highly entertaining to watch.
There....I've said it and we'll now lose.