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Ademola Lookman - nominated for Ballon D'Or (p4)

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  • RugbyAddick
    RugbyAddick Posts: 2,079
    Fabrizio reporting that he’s agreed personal terms with Inter. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Anyone talking to someone while they are praying is an ignorant arsehole and the one in the wrong, not the one doing the praying. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,010
    Seems a very underrated player to me. Not underrated in the sense that he won African player of the year, but underrated in the sense that he's got 15, 17 & 20 goals in his last 3 seasons and the transfer fee is a reported €42 million, which is just over £35m. If he was English, Spanish or Brazilian i think he'd be going for at least £60 million.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    What could CAFC expect to get out of it ?
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    edited July 21
    Depends how many years he's deemed to have been with us (he joined Everton mid season). Probably between 1 - 1.5% of the transfer fee.

    Edit - It's looks like he joined the academy in 2013 and left in 2017 so probably nearer 1.5% and possibly a bit more.
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,856
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Seems a very underrated player to me. Not underrated in the sense that he won African player of the year, but underrated in the sense that he's got 15, 17 & 20 goals in his last 3 seasons and the transfer fee is a reported €42 million, which is just over £35m. If he was English, Spanish or Brazilian i think he'd be going for at least £60 million.
    Am I missing something? He was born and raised in London.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Some reports saying €50m 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,355
    edited July 21
    LoOkOuT said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Seems a very underrated player to me. Not underrated in the sense that he won African player of the year, but underrated in the sense that he's got 15, 17 & 20 goals in his last 3 seasons and the transfer fee is a reported €42 million, which is just over £35m. If he was English, Spanish or Brazilian i think he'd be going for at least £60 million.
    Am I missing something? He was born and raised in London.
    He plays for the Nigerian national team and won African footballer of the year. 

    I think that's what he was getting at. African players carry less premium than English players. If his allegiances internationally were with England and he was a Premier League player his value would be higher, that's for sure.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,261
    LoOkOuT said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Seems a very underrated player to me. Not underrated in the sense that he won African player of the year, but underrated in the sense that he's got 15, 17 & 20 goals in his last 3 seasons and the transfer fee is a reported €42 million, which is just over £35m. If he was English, Spanish or Brazilian i think he'd be going for at least £60 million.
    Am I missing something? He was born and raised in London.
    And how many appearances does he have for England? 

    I for one am glad that England are finally being represented on the African stage though, having the reigning African Player Of The Year is quite some accomplishment for us!
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  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,563
    SantaClaus said:
    Depends how many years he's deemed to have been with us (he joined Everton mid season). Probably between 1 - 1.5% of the transfer fee.

    Edit - It's looks like he joined the academy in 2013 and left in 2017 so probably nearer 1.5% and possibly a bit more.
    Would there be a trickle down effect, which maybe small from his sell on clause. 
    By which I mean if he has had four transfers and each had a sell on clause on profit.

    Team 4 pays £200 to Team 3 for the player.  
    Team 3 makes a profit of £100, but has bought the player from Team 2 with a 20% of profit sell on clause.

    Team 3 has to pay Team 2 £20, as it has made an additional £20 profit.

    Team 2 bought the player from Team 1 with a 20% sell on clause on profit.

    Does Team 1 now receive £4, as part of the original sell on clause or does the agreement end with the first sale?


  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,619
    Kap10 said:
    SantaClaus said:
    Depends how many years he's deemed to have been with us (he joined Everton mid season). Probably between 1 - 1.5% of the transfer fee.

    Edit - It's looks like he joined the academy in 2013 and left in 2017 so probably nearer 1.5% and possibly a bit more.
    Would there be a trickle down effect, which maybe small from his sell on clause. 
    By which I mean if he has had four transfers and each had a sell on clause on profit.

    Team 4 pays £200 to Team 3 for the player.  
    Team 3 makes a profit of £100, but has bought the player from Team 2 with a 20% of profit sell on clause.

    Team 3 has to pay Team 2 £20, as it has made an additional £20 profit.

    Team 2 bought the player from Team 1 with a 20% sell on clause on profit.

    Does Team 1 now receive £4, as part of the original sell on clause or does the agreement end with the first sale?


    I think it ends with the first contract, but in Europe, there seems to be a development fee that we receive on his last move.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 619
    £750,000 if we are lucky enough to get 1.5% of 50 million. Probably less because it is Euro’s but half a million would be a nice bit of extra.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    Didnt someone put up a UEFA fee scale the other day showing what each club along the food chain would get ?
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,917
    golfaddick said:
    Didnt someone put up a UEFA fee scale the other day showing what each club along the food chain would get ?
    Yeah it had us getting 1.5m 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,889
    jose said:
    £750,000 if we are lucky enough to get 1.5% of 50 million. Probably less because it is Euro’s but half a million would be a nice bit of extra.
    Extra? 

    You forget the haircut we will likely take on Ahadme I fear 😉😆

    I do wonder if the club assumed any such windfalls or if these things really are a bonus. We seem to have  speculated on some income from Gomez for years that has never materialised. 

    I’d tend to it really is a bonus.

    Not clear if that will let our ownership give NJ a bigger transfer kitty or just offset the spend they seem to have made to date.  


  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Braziliance said:
    LoOkOuT said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Seems a very underrated player to me. Not underrated in the sense that he won African player of the year, but underrated in the sense that he's got 15, 17 & 20 goals in his last 3 seasons and the transfer fee is a reported €42 million, which is just over £35m. If he was English, Spanish or Brazilian i think he'd be going for at least £60 million.
    Am I missing something? He was born and raised in London.
    He plays for the Nigerian national team and won African footballer of the year. 

    I think that's what he was getting at. African players carry less premium than English players. If his allegiances internationally were with England and he was a Premier League player his value would be higher, that's for sure.
    Agree, although he’d still count as a homegrown player if he was in England, which carries its own premium.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    Funnily enough represented England teams at all age groups more times than Nigeria.
  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting Posts: 3,680
    WSS said:
    Funnily enough represented England teams at all age groups more times than Nigeria.
    Only a matter of time before his Nigeria appearances will de more dominant than his various England ones. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,010
    LoOkOuT said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Seems a very underrated player to me. Not underrated in the sense that he won African player of the year, but underrated in the sense that he's got 15, 17 & 20 goals in his last 3 seasons and the transfer fee is a reported €42 million, which is just over £35m. If he was English, Spanish or Brazilian i think he'd be going for at least £60 million.
    Am I missing something? He was born and raised in London.
    As others have said above, in football terms he is considered African.

    If he was an England international i've no doubt he'd be worth double what he's going for.
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  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 844
    LoOkOuT said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Seems a very underrated player to me. Not underrated in the sense that he won African player of the year, but underrated in the sense that he's got 15, 17 & 20 goals in his last 3 seasons and the transfer fee is a reported €42 million, which is just over £35m. If he was English, Spanish or Brazilian i think he'd be going for at least £60 million.
    Am I missing something? He was born and raised in London.
    No you are not missing anything, however you are being deliberately obtuse.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977

    The FIFA solidarity contribution is a mechanism designed to compensate clubs that have contributed to a player's training and education when that player is later transferred internationally. It applies when a professional player is transferred before the end of their contract, and a portion of the transfer fee is distributed to the clubs that played a role in the player's development between the ages of 12 and 23. 
    Here's a breakdown:
    • Purpose:
      The solidarity contribution aims to recognize and financially support the clubs that invested in a player's formative years, fostering a more equitable distribution of benefits from player transfers. 
    When it applies:
    It's triggered when a professional player is transferred to a club in a different national association, or when a player previously registered with a club in another association is transferred to a club within the same association. 



  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    There's a breakdown of the payment formula by year on this link.

    https://www.farleys.com/understanding-training-compensation-and-solidarity-payments-in-football/
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Anyone talking to someone while they are praying is an ignorant arsehole and the one in the wrong, not the one doing the praying. 

    Not if the player is praying during a match while play is going on and the team mate wants the player to focus !

    I would imagine there's some Scouse wit behind the comments from the tour guide especially about match days.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    https://x.com/alookman_/status/1951969478960664852?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Possibility of moving to Spurs before the end of the window.
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,782
    Callumcafc said:
    Possibility of moving to Spurs before the end of the window.
    Around €1.4 to us in training compo if he goes for £40m
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    sammy391 said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Possibility of moving to Spurs before the end of the window.
    Around €1.4 to us in training compo if he goes for £40m
    Watch him sign for free 😂
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    No disrespect to Atalanta but he should be playing at the very top level. 

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