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I assumed it might be linked to the personal conduct investigation of last year.Maybe he’s equally had enough after that episode and is happy to step away if his bosses no longer want him there.Seems a very pleasant job if the media pick him up and he follows the sport that way in future.0
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hope your second thought was a bit betterer.soapboxsam said:After seeing the news earlier this morning that Christian Horner has been sacked after 20 years as team Principal of Red Bull, my first thought was I know drug taking is prevalent in all spectrum of society but was Horner guilty of sniffing ginger Spice 🤔2 -
Horner to Ferrari rumours a month back don't seem so far fetched now.
Add in Lewis comments about Max moving to Merc where he said Red Bull are a fantastic team maybe something is happening behind the scenes0 -
I wonder if there was a performance clause in his contract too, similar to in Max's.
It's the halfway point of the season and they are 4th in the constructors, so given what's happened off the track, this might have triggered a situation where he could be sacked without having to bring up the personal stuff, an easy out for everyone1 -
ForeverAddickted said:
It would tie in with how the Verstappen's seem to act, it always feels like they've held Red Bull to ransom in the past so they can get their way with whatever they want, which in turn has turned Max himself into this stroppy looking character when he doesnt get his way.CafcWest said:
This is my take on it too. Some on "X" speculating that it's because Verstappen has signed for Mercedes and therefore he was fired for letting it happen but that doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Much more likely IMO that it was either Verstappen or Horner and the Red Bull owners have said Verstappen too important.MarcusH26 said:From what I understand from articles about the Red Bull power dynamic , the Verstappens have won.
I suspect it ultimately boiled down to " sack Horner or Max goes to Merc"
Does throw up an interesting conundrum with the second seat if Mekkies is the long term replacement and not a caretaker
I couldn't see him working well at Mercedes for that reason, or elsewhere even, as he wouldn't have that protection.
As I've put elsewhere and got a bit of flak from Verstappen fanboys for, he's a terrible terrible fit for Mercedes. Toto has a no dickheads policy and Max would have to do sponsors events , no more " I fancy going and testing my GT teams car this week, sod the sponsors"
You're got George who's the perfect company man who if Toto told him that IWC wanted him to unveil a watch he'd be there and do it.
Also I doubt Red Bull are releasing GP to go with him when they gave him a promotion. I can't see Max and Bono or Max and Marcus Dudley working at all.2 -
Today is the first day of Kimi Antonelli’s life that Christian Horner isn’t the head of Red Bull0
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The report on BBC F1 website re Red Bull is excellent.0
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No idea of the rights and wrongs of it, RB strikes me as an absolute snake pit of an organization, but I will not miss the smug prick appearing on my screen after every race one bit.
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Andrew Benson is such an underrated F1 reporter, not always the first to a story but he's always well researched and gets things right. He's like Cawley in that regard. He also has an almost encyclopaedic knowledge that he can just pull at at will, he's brilliantgringo said:The report on BBC F1 website re Red Bull is excellent.0 -
Was listening to him on the BBC F1 podcast earlier talking about this story. He actually made a comment that working at the BBC means they have to be absolutely certain of its veracity and pass various checks and balances before reporting on a story. It means that can’t be as quick to break news as other organizations but sound like he knew about this just as early as others did.fenaddick said:
Andrew Benson is such an underrated F1 reporter, not always the first to a story but he's always well researched and gets things right. He's like Cawley in that regard. He also has an almost encyclopaedic knowledge that he can just pull at at will, he's brilliantgringo said:The report on BBC F1 website re Red Bull is excellent.1 -
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fenaddick said:
Andrew Benson is such an underrated F1 reporter, not always the first to a story but he's always well researched and gets things right. He's like Cawley in that regard. He also has an almost encyclopaedic knowledge that he can just pull at at will, he's brilliantgringo said:The report on BBC F1 website re Red Bull is excellent.
Cawley at the back post!
Benson down the inside!
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Watching it now, shows just what a cheating wanker Schumacher wasForeverAddickted said:Just watched the "Hill" documentary on SKY - Nothing really unknown in there, but still really nicely put together.
Probably one of the more underrated World Champions in my opinion, and often regarded as the least deserving. But given when he entered Motor Racing, the fact he got into F1 so late, raced against some of the best in history; Prost, Senna, Mansell, Schumacher... and still came away with a Championship, says a lot for me.5 -
IMO Schumacher was the most ‘flawed’ sportsman ever. Brilliantly talented - but so many examples that even go beyond Max. Max pushes the boundaries in terms of driving aggressively safe in the knowledge he will run the risk of a penalty.
Schumacher was more conniving…. Stuff like the Monaco parking incident, pushing Barricello towards the pit wall, Adelaide 94.
Just shows how Anthony raised Lewis in a completely different way. It’s one of the things that makes him great in my eyes - won things the right way on track 99.9pc of the time7 -
Agree regarding Schumacher but let's not pretend Lewis was whiter than white.DamoNorthStand said:IMO Schumacher was the most ‘flawed’ sportsman ever. Brilliantly talented - but so many examples that even go beyond Max. Max pushes the boundaries in terms of driving aggressively safe in the knowledge he will run the risk of a penalty.
Schumacher was more conniving…. Stuff like the Monaco parking incident, pushing Barricello towards the pit wall, Adelaide 94.
Just shows how Anthony raised Lewis in a completely different way. It’s one of the things that makes him great in my eyes - won things the right way on track 99.9pc of the time
He's done his fair share of shithousery in the past.0 -
I think Schumachers 'moral compass' was unduly influenced by some form of magnetism in his racing cars.blackpool72 said:
Agree regarding Schumacher but let's not pretend Lewis was whiter than white.DamoNorthStand said:IMO Schumacher was the most ‘flawed’ sportsman ever. Brilliantly talented - but so many examples that even go beyond Max. Max pushes the boundaries in terms of driving aggressively safe in the knowledge he will run the risk of a penalty.
Schumacher was more conniving…. Stuff like the Monaco parking incident, pushing Barricello towards the pit wall, Adelaide 94.
Just shows how Anthony raised Lewis in a completely different way. It’s one of the things that makes him great in my eyes - won things the right way on track 99.9pc of the time
He's done his fair share of shithousery in the past.0 -
Schumi for me was my first sporting hero so I turn a blind eye to it all I'm afraid.
He was the driver that revolutionised the way they all think now, the discipline and the dedication to learning the circuits, the data and the engineering in the cars and the physical prowess he showed made him so dominant1 -
Freddie Slater returning to Spa this weekend, with Hitech and Formula 3
Could end up winning three times there this season0 -
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Freddie Slater in at Hitech this weekend. After what he did at Spa in GB3 winning from the back we could be in for some fun.1 -
Be exciting to see how he does... He's really starting to take control in FRECA now as well, and that is whilst switching between GB3 and F3 as well, we saw with Ugochukwu last season (I know he's not of the same talent) how difficult it can be, and can hamper your season. Hitech are certainly quick too, as we've see with Stenshorne this season
Tsolov is hopefully going to be thinking: "God not you again"1 -
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I wouldn't be surprised if he won the sprint especially we get changeable Spa weather that he dominated in when GB3 were there.ForeverAddickted said:Be exciting to see how he does... He's really starting to take control in FRECA now as well, and that is whilst switching between GB3 and F3 as well, we saw with Ugochukwu last season (I know he's not of the same talent) how difficult it can be, and can hamper your season. Hitech are certainly quick too, as we've see with Stenshorne this season
Tsolov is hopefully going to be thinking: "God not you again"1 -
Potential Sprint Pole for Freddie Slater in Formula 3
God knows though, after the mess of Quali - He just got rescued with the deleted lap for Ramos, who'll probably get that back the way the Stewards are behaving.0 -
Non event of a sprint.1
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Brilliant race in the Formula 2, fair play for them to let it stay Green Flag for as long as they did, and it was the bloody engines that ended it in the end!!
Made up for the F3 being cancelled
F1 could be brilliant later0 -
That engine blowout spoiled what could have been a great finish to a good race.ForeverAddickted said:Brilliant race in the Formula 2, fair play for them to let it stay Green Flag for as long as they did, and it was the bloody engines that ended it in the end!!
Made up for the F3 being cancelled
F1 could be brilliant later
Thought Inthraphuvasak's spin in F3 and rubbish attempt to right himself was hilarious.
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It certainly saved the race winner, given the Red Bull behind him...superclive98 said:
That engine blowout spoiled what could have been a great finish to a good race.ForeverAddickted said:Brilliant race in the Formula 2, fair play for them to let it stay Green Flag for as long as they did, and it was the bloody engines that ended it in the end!!
Made up for the F3 being cancelled
F1 could be brilliant later
Thought Inthraphuvasak's spin in F3 and rubbish attempt to right himself was hilarious.
It was a shame that happened during the F3 (fair play for writing the Driver, I'd have just gone with "the Campos Driver" lol!) - I wonder if the race may have gone ahead had he not spun.0 -
Hamilton,Alonso, Antonelli pitlane start with new Engines.
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Hope that Antonelli can have a solid couple of weekends until the Summer break
Dont think the conditions are going to make life easy for him today though
Saw an interview with him yesterday, and he looked in tears with the pressure at the moment, dont think the endless Contract rumours at Mercedes are helping him in the slightest.
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The FIA these days seem to look for any excuse to scrap or stop races, especially in the junior categories, which doesn't really prepare the young drivers for when they advance to F1.ForeverAddickted said:b
It certainly saved the race winner, given the Red Bull behind him...superclive98 said:
That engine blowout spoiled what could have been a great finish to a good race.ForeverAddickted said:Brilliant race in the Formula 2, fair play for them to let it stay Green Flag for as long as they did, and it was the bloody engines that ended it in the end!!
Made up for the F3 being cancelled
F1 could be brilliant later
Thought Inthraphuvasak's spin in F3 and rubbish attempt to right himself was hilarious.
It was a shame that happened during the F3 (fair play for writing the Driver, I'd have just gone with "the Campos Driver" lol!) - I wonder if the race may have gone ahead had he not spun.1 -
It's a lot for a young driver, however talented, to deal with.ForeverAddickted said:Hope that Antonelli can have a solid couple of weekends until the Summer break
Dont think the conditions are going to make life easy for him today though
Saw an interview with him yesterday, and he looked in tears with the pressure at the moment, dont think the endless Contract rumours at Mercedes are helping him in the slightest.
Lewis leaving forced Toto's hand. Kimi could have done with a year or two with a lesser team, like George had with Williams.
This season could ruin him, unless Mercedes protect him.1
