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World all-time best XI

Gisappointed
Gisappointed Posts: 1,000
edited August 5 in Charlton International
Further to my comment on the Costa tribute, can we discuss a best ever World side. Parameters even though not set now or back in the past, are 4-4-2 and their contribution in their era, not judged against current enhanced standards.

If I can kick off:

            Zoff
Alvez Costa Maldini Carlos
Garrincha Charlton Iniesta Ronaldo
Messi Pele

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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,352
                      Lev Yashin
    Cafu,   Beckenbauer,   Maldini,   Roberto Carlos
    Maradona, Welsh, B. Charlton, Best
                 Pelé, Messi 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Gisappointed said:
    Further to my comment on the Costa tribute, can we discuss a best ever World side. Parameters even though not set now or back in the past, are 4-4-2 and their contribution in their era, not judged against current enhanced standards.

    If I can kick off:

                Zoff
    Alvez Costa Maldini Carlos
    Garrincha Charlton Iniesta Ronaldo
    Messi Pele
    Is the inclusion of Costa in your team a joke or is it serious?
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,894
    edited August 5
     
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,000
    eaststandmike said:
    Gisappointed said:
    Further to my comment on the Costa tribute, can we discuss a best ever World side. Parameters even though not set now or back in the past, are 4-4-2 and their contribution in their era, not judged against current enhanced standards.

    If I can kick off:

                Zoff
    Alvez Costa Maldini Carlos
    Garrincha Charlton Iniesta Ronaldo
    Messi Pele
    Is the inclusion of Costa in your team a joke or is it serious?
    Name a better XI.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,154
    edited August 5
    4-4-2 in my lifetime that I remember watching play:

                                     Buffon

             
                  Cafu Cannavaro Nesta Maldini

           
           Cristiano Ronaldo Iniesta Pirlo Zidane


                                 Messi Ronaldo
  • Tutt-Tutt
    Tutt-Tutt Posts: 3,281
    I’ll have a go….

    Banks
    Carlos Alberto-Beckenbauer-Moore-Maldini
    Best- Cruyff- Puskas-Messi
    Maradona
    Pele

    subs: Yashin, Di Stefano, C.Ronaldo, Eusebio,Muller.

    Eusebio, Law, Charlton, Garrincha, Platini, Zico, Van Basten, Gullit, the other Ronaldo, could all be included, but you can only pick 11 and maybe 5 subs. (I couldn’t choose a spare defender and leave out one of the attacking subs).

    Who is to say some of the pre war superstars like Meazza and Piola, or Alex James, shouldn’t be considered, but we don’t have much film of them.

    Good fun though.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,015
    Anything without R9 is wrong.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Gisappointed said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Gisappointed said:
    Further to my comment on the Costa tribute, can we discuss a best ever World side. Parameters even though not set now or back in the past, are 4-4-2 and their contribution in their era, not judged against current enhanced standards.

    If I can kick off:

                Zoff
    Alvez Costa Maldini Carlos
    Garrincha Charlton Iniesta Ronaldo
    Messi Pele
    Is the inclusion of Costa in your team a joke or is it serious?
    Name a better XI.
    I wasn’t questioning the 11 just Costa, there are far too many centre backs to mention who would get in ahead of Costa however it’s your opinion so crack on 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,993
    Yashin 
    Cafu, Beckenbauer, Baresi, Maldini
    Maradona, Matthaus, Cruyff
    Messi, Pele, Best

    Bit attacking, but ah well.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,993
    edited August 5
    ValleyGary said:
    Anything without R9 is wrong.
    Feels very tricky to leave him out but you've probably got to drop Pele if you put him in.

    Best XI of my lifetime (and actually trying some balance for this one) he'd be in:

    Buffon
    Cafu, Nesta, Baresi, Maldini (that Milan defence was insanely good)
    Gullit, Matthaus, Zidane
    Messi, Ronaldo, C.Ronaldo.


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  • Themightyath2
    Themightyath2 Posts: 933
    Based on players I've seen play...             

                   Schmeichel

    Cafu     Baresi   Maldini    Carlos

                  Deschamps
        Matthaus             Zidane

    Maradona                      Messi

                    Van Basten
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,354
    Buffon
    Cafu Beckenbauer Maldini Carlos
    Gullit
    Zidane Cruyff
    Pele Ronaldo C.Ronaldo

    Yashin, Baresi, Carlos Alberto, Matthaus, Maradona, Messi, Puskas
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,057
    The Red Robin said:
    4-4-2 in my lifetime that I remember watching play:

                                     Buffon

             
                  Cafu Cannavaro Nesta Maldini

           
           Cristiano Ronaldo Iniesta Pirlo Zidane


                                 Messi Ronaldo
    It's very hard to argue with this, from my lifetime too
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,664
    A team of Kermorgants.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    The Red Robin said:
    4-4-2 in my lifetime that I remember watching play:

                                     Buffon

             
                  Cafu Cannavaro Nesta Maldini

           
           Cristiano Ronaldo Iniesta Pirlo Zidane


                                 Messi Ronaldo

    No one would be able to get the ball off them lot.

    Iniesta, Pirlo and Zidane in the same starting 11
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,906
    Costa in a world 11 ?

    Are you on crack or something ?

    I wouldn’t have him in a best Charlton XI 
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,044
    Brazil 1970. Best team I’ve ever seen.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,240
    If going for a team that would actually work rather than just stacking it with 3 attacking midfielders and 3 forwards, I'd go

                                       Buffon
             
                  Cafu      Nesta    Maldini    R.Carlos

                            Makalele           Pirlo

                                      Maradona

                      CR7            Ronaldo          Messi
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,959
    MrOneLung said:
    Costa in a world 11 ?

    Are you on crack or something ?

    I wouldn’t have him in a best Charlton XI 
    World 11 of course not. 

    Charlton XI? He walks into that and it’s not even close.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,831
    Thuram
    Seaborne El Khalej R Williams Penney
    Alonso McOxo LePoint B Watson
    Bonne Abbott

    🤪

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  • Powell2ThePeople
    Powell2ThePeople Posts: 388
    edited August 6
    lordromford said:
    Thuram
    Seaborne El Khalej R Williams Penney
    Alonso McOxo LePoint B Watson
    Bonne Abbott

    🤪
    I'm sorry, but I would leave Diane Abbott on the bench.     

    And don't even get me started on Rex Williams.      What are you thinking?  
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,837
    lordromford said:
    Thuram
    Seaborne El Khalej R Williams Penney
    Alonso McOxo LePoint B Watson
    Bonne Abbott

    🤪
    Ahadme up front .  Bonne’s highs were higher, even if his lows were lower .  
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 861
    wmcf123 said:
    lordromford said:
    Thuram
    Seaborne El Khalej R Williams Penney
    Alonso McOxo LePoint B Watson
    Bonne Abbott

    🤪
    Ahadme up front .  Bonne’s highs were higher, even if his lows were lower .  
    Maekinok in
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,915
    Yashin 
    Cafu 
    Beckenbauer 
    Moore 
    Maldini 
    Ronaldo 
    Maradona
    Zidane 
    Messi
    Pele 
    Ronaldo 


    With special mentions to Bobby Goldthorpe and Gary Churchouse
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,218
    Lots of Garth Crooks teams here. Some of these would get stuffed by a peak Tony Pulis team and I think that's honestly the most entertaining thing I can imagine. Best ever XI getting turned over by Dean Whitehead, Dave Kitson and Liam Lawrence because there's nothing Maldini can do about Andy Wilkinson overlapping him if Zidane won't track back. Maradona throwing his arms in the air in frustration as yet another Rory Delap throw flies over him and onto Glenn Whelan's face. Johann Cruyff sulking after failing again to track Matthew Etherington's late run into the box. I want it to happen now.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,837
    Garrymanilow said:
    Lots of Garth Crooks teams here. Some of these would get stuffed by a peak Tony Pulis team and I think that's honestly the most entertaining thing I can imagine. Best ever XI getting turned over by Dean Whitehead, Dave Kitson and Liam Lawrence because there's nothing Maldini can do about Andy Wilkinson overlapping him if Zidane won't track back. Maradona throwing his arms in the air in frustration as yet another Rory Delap throw flies over him and onto Glenn Whelan's face. Johann Cruyff sulking after failing again to track Matthew Etherington's late run into the box. I want it to happen now.
    Agreed.

    Buffon

    Cafu, Nesta, Stam, Maldini

    Xavi, Busquets, Iniesta

    Messi, Ronaldo, Cristiano
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 861
    wmcf123 said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    Lots of Garth Crooks teams here. Some of these would get stuffed by a peak Tony Pulis team and I think that's honestly the most entertaining thing I can imagine. Best ever XI getting turned over by Dean Whitehead, Dave Kitson and Liam Lawrence because there's nothing Maldini can do about Andy Wilkinson overlapping him if Zidane won't track back. Maradona throwing his arms in the air in frustration as yet another Rory Delap throw flies over him and onto Glenn Whelan's face. Johann Cruyff sulking after failing again to track Matthew Etherington's late run into the box. I want it to happen now.
    Agreed.

    Buffon

    Cafu, Nesta, Stam, Maldini

    Xavi, Busquets, Iniesta

    Messi, Ronaldo, Cristiano
    Almost in full agreement bar 2 players - 

    Buffon

    Cafu, Nesta, PUYOL, Maldini

    Xavi, RODRI, Iniesta

    Messi, Ronaldo, Cristiano

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