Are Charlton a sleeping giant beginning to wake?

WSS said:

bolloxbolder said:

Attaining premiership status is the only way we ever get the Valley and training ground back.

Ultimately though, who is "we"?

The people who currently own the club.

Covered End said:

kafka said:

Dave2l said:

Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.

Bigger than Bournemouth and Brentford though and as big as Fulham, Burnley, Brighton and Palace. We should be supporting this ambition and seeing how far NJ can take us.

Yes bigger than Bournemouth, Brentford, Burnley and Fulham.
Same size as Brighton and Palace and not far behind Forest and Wolves.
So we can easily compete with 8 of the 20.

I’d would say Charlton are well behind forest and wolves. They both averaged over 20k the last time they played in the third tier. I doubt you’ve ever got close to that while you were in the third tier in recent history (apart from play off games). Add to the history they’ve got on the pitch and say you’re not far away from them is way off the mark. 

MillwallFan said:

Covered End said:

kafka said:

Dave2l said:

Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.

Bigger than Bournemouth and Brentford though and as big as Fulham, Burnley, Brighton and Palace. We should be supporting this ambition and seeing how far NJ can take us.

Yes bigger than Bournemouth, Brentford, Burnley and Fulham.
Same size as Brighton and Palace and not far behind Forest and Wolves.
So we can easily compete with 8 of the 20.

I’d would say Charlton are well behind forest and wolves. They both averaged over 20k the last time they played in the third tier. I doubt you’ve ever got close to that while you were in the third tier in recent history (apart from play off games). Add to the history they’ve got on the pitch and say you’re not far away from them is way off the mark. 

I’m not saying that I agree we’re not far behind them but I think we’d also likely average over 20k if we had a championship season chasing promotion

I do think we’re bigger than Brighton & Palace though rather than being on par

MillwallFan said:

Covered End said:

kafka said:

Dave2l said:

Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.

Bigger than Bournemouth and Brentford though and as big as Fulham, Burnley, Brighton and Palace. We should be supporting this ambition and seeing how far NJ can take us.

Yes bigger than Bournemouth, Brentford, Burnley and Fulham.
Same size as Brighton and Palace and not far behind Forest and Wolves.
So we can easily compete with 8 of the 20.

I’d would say Charlton are well behind forest and wolves. They both averaged over 20k the last time they played in the third tier. I doubt you’ve ever got close to that while you were in the third tier in recent history (apart from play off games). Add to the history they’ve got on the pitch and say you’re not far away from them is way off the mark. 

our recent history in the third tier has been under the worst ownerships in our history.

MillwallFan said:

Leeds_Addick said:

MillwallFan said:

Covered End said:

kafka said:

Dave2l said:

Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.

Bigger than Bournemouth and Brentford though and as big as Fulham, Burnley, Brighton and Palace. We should be supporting this ambition and seeing how far NJ can take us.

Yes bigger than Bournemouth, Brentford, Burnley and Fulham.
Same size as Brighton and Palace and not far behind Forest and Wolves.
So we can easily compete with 8 of the 20.

I’d would say Charlton are well behind forest and wolves. They both averaged over 20k the last time they played in the third tier. I doubt you’ve ever got close to that while you were in the third tier in recent history (apart from play off games). Add to the history they’ve got on the pitch and say you’re not far away from them is way off the mark. 

I’m not saying that I agree we’re not far behind them but I think we’d also likely average over 20k if we had a championship season chasing promotion

I do think we’re bigger than Brighton & Palace though rather than being on par

No way are Charlton bigger than palace now. They’re miles ahead of both of us. Even if you ended up playing at the same level they would be the bigger club now days. They sell out every game and have waiting lists for season tickets. See how many they got when they played Stockport at home in the early rounds of the cup last season? When everyone else was struggling to fill a third of their ground for the early round games they nearly sold out. A palace mate (yeah I know) told me it was because all their fans who can never get tickets for league games used it as an opportunity to go and watch them. They could have a 40k ground now days. Sadly. C**ts

Sadly true and one of the most depressing posts in a while. On the plus side nearly all their supporters are fuckwits

No, we are not 

Sleeping, more like comatose.  Definitely not a giant and never have or will be all the time we rent a ground with a relatively small capacity. Looking up from 4th place finish there are many clubs who would consider themselves bigger than us and in the EPL definitely all of them consider us exactly what we have become, a third tier club. 
I have struggled for many years to except our place in the pyramid of football and always believed we should have been better than where we were. But reality speaks for itself, we’re rubbish for many years apart from a few months here and there. We have a mountain to climb just to tread water in this division, hence the amount of players we’ve signed. Hopefully we can kick on from last season and rebuild to where I always thought we should be and where we were 20 years ago.  40k fans at Wembley and many left watching on tv a couple of months back give a hint to what things could be like given the right backing and a huge slice of good fortune. 

MillwallFan said:

Leeds_Addick said:

MillwallFan said:

Covered End said:

kafka said:

Dave2l said:

Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.

Bigger than Bournemouth and Brentford though and as big as Fulham, Burnley, Brighton and Palace. We should be supporting this ambition and seeing how far NJ can take us.

Yes bigger than Bournemouth, Brentford, Burnley and Fulham.
Same size as Brighton and Palace and not far behind Forest and Wolves.
So we can easily compete with 8 of the 20.

I’d would say Charlton are well behind forest and wolves. They both averaged over 20k the last time they played in the third tier. I doubt you’ve ever got close to that while you were in the third tier in recent history (apart from play off games). Add to the history they’ve got on the pitch and say you’re not far away from them is way off the mark. 

I’m not saying that I agree we’re not far behind them but I think we’d also likely average over 20k if we had a championship season chasing promotion

I do think we’re bigger than Brighton & Palace though rather than being on par

No way are Charlton bigger than palace now. They’re miles ahead of both of us. Even if you ended up playing at the same level they would be the bigger club now days. They sell out every game and have waiting lists for season tickets. See how many they got when they played Stockport at home in the early rounds of the cup last season? When everyone else was struggling to fill a third of their ground for the early round games against lower opposition they nearly sold out. A palace mate (yeah I know) told me it was because all their fans who can never get tickets for league games used it as an opportunity to go and watch them. They could have a 40k ground now days. Sadly. C**ts

It pains me to say it, but you are right - I live in Dartford, so I am used to seeing people wearing Charlton and Millwall shirts / polo shirts around here - it’s normal ( of course I also see people wearing Manure, Livershite etc as well, but it’s been like that for years), and I have no gripe with seeing Millwall fans in my area - both clubs draw support from north Kent, and have done for years - and I know Millwall fans in the pubs I go to, and we have good banter 

However, a very worrying trend is seeing people in Dartford, and surrounding area, in Palshit tops 

Yesterday I walked my 2 dogs at Horton Kirby  - I had a Charlton polo shirt on - first up, 3 lads (I would say 13’ish years old) all 3 wearing Palshit shirts in the park - then walking along the river, a bloke and a woman jogging, both in Palshit shirts - then I popped to the pub for a couple of pints, I’m sat in pub garden, and a family come in, and their 2 small lads both in Palshit shirts !!!

I could hear their Dad saying that I was a Charlton fan, and that we hate them, but he didn’t understand why - blimey he didn’t even know the history

So my point is this - their years in the Prem + FA Cup win are now creeping into ‘our’ area - and for ‘our’ I mean Charlton and Millwall 

Rant over 🤔

I dream of a world when you can have an opinion about Charlton and @millwallfan (who only comments where Millwall are mentioned apparently #bs) doesn’t pile in with his option 

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

I dream of a world when you can have an opinion about Charlton and @millwallfan (who only comments where Millwall are mentioned apparently #bs) doesn’t pile in with his option 

Fair enough, point taken. I do try to stick to threads about Millwall and the championship in general but obviously I’m going to get drawn to a thread title like this one aren’t I?  😆

fair play though most of you dismissed the idea of being a sleeping giant. Maybe this time spent in L1 has humbled you all a tad?😁

Anyway, Millwall and Championship threads only from now on. 👍🏻

Dave2l said:

... after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.

That many?

MillwallFan said:

Leeds_Addick said:

MillwallFan said:

Covered End said:

kafka said:

Dave2l said:

Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.

Bigger than Bournemouth and Brentford though and as big as Fulham, Burnley, Brighton and Palace. We should be supporting this ambition and seeing how far NJ can take us.

Yes bigger than Bournemouth, Brentford, Burnley and Fulham.
Same size as Brighton and Palace and not far behind Forest and Wolves.
So we can easily compete with 8 of the 20.

I’d would say Charlton are well behind forest and wolves. They both averaged over 20k the last time they played in the third tier. I doubt you’ve ever got close to that while you were in the third tier in recent history (apart from play off games). Add to the history they’ve got on the pitch and say you’re not far away from them is way off the mark. 

I’m not saying that I agree we’re not far behind them but I think we’d also likely average over 20k if we had a championship season chasing promotion

I do think we’re bigger than Brighton & Palace though rather than being on par

No way are Charlton bigger than palace now. They’re miles ahead of both of us. Even if you ended up playing at the same level they would be the bigger club now days. They sell out every game and have waiting lists for season tickets. See how many they got when they played Stockport at home in the early rounds of the cup last season? When everyone else was struggling to fill a third of their ground for the early round games against lower opposition they nearly sold out. A palace mate (yeah I know) told me it was because all their fans who can never get tickets for league games used it as an opportunity to go and watch them. They could have a 40k ground now days. Sadly. C**ts

15th May 2005

Out of the 3 sides that came up last season we are by far the favourite to go back down, we need a few seasons to stable in the championship and then who knows maybe a tilt at promotion 

MillwallFan said:

Leeds_Addick said:

MillwallFan said:

Covered End said:

kafka said:

Dave2l said:

Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.

Bigger than Bournemouth and Brentford though and as big as Fulham, Burnley, Brighton and Palace. We should be supporting this ambition and seeing how far NJ can take us.

Yes bigger than Bournemouth, Brentford, Burnley and Fulham.
Same size as Brighton and Palace and not far behind Forest and Wolves.
So we can easily compete with 8 of the 20.

I’d would say Charlton are well behind forest and wolves. They both averaged over 20k the last time they played in the third tier. I doubt you’ve ever got close to that while you were in the third tier in recent history (apart from play off games). Add to the history they’ve got on the pitch and say you’re not far away from them is way off the mark. 

I’m not saying that I agree we’re not far behind them but I think we’d also likely average over 20k if we had a championship season chasing promotion

I do think we’re bigger than Brighton & Palace though rather than being on par

No way are Charlton bigger than palace now. They’re miles ahead of both of us. Even if you ended up playing at the same level they would be the bigger club now days. They sell out every game and have waiting lists for season tickets. See how many they got when they played Stockport at home in the early rounds of the cup last season? When everyone else was struggling to fill a third of their ground for the early round games against lower opposition they nearly sold out. A palace mate (yeah I know) told me it was because all their fans who can never get tickets for league games used it as an opportunity to go and watch them. They could have a 40k ground now days. Sadly. C**ts

If we were established in the PL, we’d absolutely dwarf Palace. Again. 

se9addick said:

I think “sleeping giant” is pushing it a bit!

In League 1 you could say a sleeping giant amongst pigmys'.