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James Bree signs on loan until January 2026

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving
    Redrobo said:
    sam3110 said:
    Redrobo said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Redrobo said:
    The Red Robin said:
    cantersaddick said:
    Has he ever played Lb or LWB out of interest? Wondering whether he is also seen as an option there were Edwards to get a long term injury


    So in a 3-4-3 we play, who are the front 3?
    What’s that got to do with Jimmy Cheese playing right back?
    Exactly.
    Apter is one of the front 3, not a wing back.
    Apart from him telling Cawley in an interview he's Right Wing Back you nean

    Apter is a wing back In the same way as Grealish, Saka and Salha are wing backs. 
    He spends most of his time high up the pitch close to the touch line, doesn’t defend much, but does track back with his full back. 
    Against QPR he did not go into our final third. 

    Look up his heat map on sofascore and compare it to Josh Edwards. 
    You can call him a wing back if it makes you happy. But he isn’t.
      
    He let the Smyth run in front of him for the first QPR goal which was 12 yards out.
  • Scoham
    Scoham
    Redrobo said:
    sam3110 said:
    Redrobo said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Redrobo said:
    The Red Robin said:
    cantersaddick said:
    Has he ever played Lb or LWB out of interest? Wondering whether he is also seen as an option there were Edwards to get a long term injury


    So in a 3-4-3 we play, who are the front 3?
    What’s that got to do with Jimmy Cheese playing right back?
    Exactly.
    Apter is one of the front 3, not a wing back.
    Apart from him telling Cawley in an interview he's Right Wing Back you nean

    Apter is a wing back In the same way as Grealish, Saka and Salha are wing backs. 
    He spends most of his time high up the pitch close to the touch line, doesn’t defend much, but does track back with his full back. 
    Against QPR he did not go into our final third. 

    Look up his heat map on sofascore and compare it to Josh Edwards. 
    You can call him a wing back if it makes you happy. But he isn’t.
      
    Read the Cawley article, Apter himself says he’s playing wing back.

    Then watch our shape when we defend, TC moves central to become one of two strikers, and Apter tracks back to form 5-3-2/3-5-2 shape.

    When we have the ball, he becomes a RW, while Edwards is a LB in a back four.

    Small did the same last season once he started regularly playing on the right.
  • closet_addick
    closet_addick
    Nathan signing all his mates. 😂 I won't mind if it works out, but I think Bree will have a similar role to Burke. Experience, leadership and squad depth. 
  • carly burn
    carly burn
    aliwibble said:
    Apter at home, Bree away maybe.
    It's an option.
    I thought we were very lightweight at QPR and thought Carey and Apter got knocked off the ball far too easily.
    Rankin Costello and Bree may well be the way to go away from home while we wait for them to beef up a bit.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo
    If Apter is indeed a wing back the defensive side of his game is appalling.
    He is slow getting back, doesn't always get goal side, fails to use his body well enough and can’t tackle.
    Love him for his forward play, but I can see Bree coming into the starting line up as soon as he is fit to do so and Apter either moving position or becoming a finisher from the bench.
  • robroy
    robroy
    I would like to see Apter in the Carey role with Bree on the right. We then have Carey to replace TC when needed (he played on the left for Blackpool). 


  • Rob
    Rob
    Apter is exciting going forward. That, for me, is his natural position. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick
    robroy said:
    I would like to see Apter in the Carey role with Bree on the right. We then have Carey to replace TC when needed (he played on the left for Blackpool). 


    He played on the left in midfield rather than as a second striker who drifts wide, a subtle difference but they’re very different positions. Carey would be competing with Knibbs for Apter’s role if you made those changes 
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann
    robroy said:
    I would like to see Apter in the Carey role with Bree on the right. We then have Carey to replace TC when needed (he played on the left for Blackpool). 


    This sounds like when Appleton popped TC in the middle of the pitch and he got bullied after the first game 
  • robroy
    robroy
    YannTheMann said:
    robroy said:
    I would like to see Apter in the Carey role with Bree on the right. We then have Carey to replace TC when needed (he played on the left for Blackpool). 


    This sounds like when Appleton popped TC in the middle of the pitch and he got bullied after the first game 
    TC got bullied on Saturday too!
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving
    ForeverAddickted said:
    robroy said:
    YannTheMann said:
    robroy said:
    I would like to see Apter in the Carey role with Bree on the right. We then have Carey to replace TC when needed (he played on the left for Blackpool). 


    This sounds like when Appleton popped TC in the middle of the pitch and he got bullied after the first game 
    TC got bullied on Saturday too!
    Did well to get an assist then
    And get the bully booked for pulling him back after TC had skinned him 
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo
    Was a bit hesitant opening this thread as wasn't sure if I could handle many more Cheese puns. Came through it fairly unscathed, but think I know more about fish now than DairyLee Bowyer 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123
    Redrobo said:
    If Apter is indeed a wing back the defensive side of his game is appalling.
    He is slow getting back, doesn't always get goal side, fails to use his body well enough and can’t tackle.
    Love him for his forward play, but I can see Bree coming into the starting line up as soon as he is fit to do so and Apter either moving position or becoming a finisher from the bench.
    If we play an orthodox right back in a 3-5-2,  and Campbell wide left , with the lack of creativity in midfield , it’s a recipe for long ball and no goals .  
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo
    CaptainRobbo said:
    Was a bit hesitant opening this thread as wasn't sure if I could handle many more Cheese puns. Came through it fairly unscathed, but think I know more about fish now than DairyLee Bowyer 
    Disappointed my Jamboree post didn't get a couple more lols though
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo
    wmcf123 said:
    Redrobo said:
    If Apter is indeed a wing back the defensive side of his game is appalling.
    He is slow getting back, doesn't always get goal side, fails to use his body well enough and can’t tackle.
    Love him for his forward play, but I can see Bree coming into the starting line up as soon as he is fit to do so and Apter either moving position or becoming a finisher from the bench.
    If we play an orthodox right back in a 3-5-2,  and Campbell wide left , with the lack of creativity in midfield , it’s a recipe for long ball and no goals .  
    I agree.
    It will be interesting to see what Jones does.
    Bree is a good player with bags of experience in the Championship and has played in the Premiership. You don’t get to do that unless you have something going forward in the modern game.
    That said, I like Apter and would be disappointed if he were not playing. Maybe less so if we are playing Middlesbrough away, unless of course he is in a role other than a wing back.
    Plenty of choices of formations and players. All come with risks and advantages.
    My guess is he will start Bree when fit as he likes to get too 70 minutes not losing.
    As I said. Interesting 🧐 

  • Crispywood
    Crispywood
    Playing either a 3421 having Apter/carey/Knibbs/TC/Oloafe behind Leaburn/Kelman/Godden. Playing an orthodox 352 but playing two central strikers rather than having TC/Oloafe drift wide allowing Edwards to get forward and not invert to a LB or keeping the current system and bringing on Bree at RWB last 20 to sure up the defence and try to win the game from a set piece is probably the 3 options we have. Really hard to say which way Jones is going to go 
  • Charlton1905
    Charlton1905
    Redrobo said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Redrobo said:
    If Apter is indeed a wing back the defensive side of his game is appalling.
    He is slow getting back, doesn't always get goal side, fails to use his body well enough and can’t tackle.
    Love him for his forward play, but I can see Bree coming into the starting line up as soon as he is fit to do so and Apter either moving position or becoming a finisher from the bench.
    If we play an orthodox right back in a 3-5-2,  and Campbell wide left , with the lack of creativity in midfield , it’s a recipe for long ball and no goals .  
    I agree.
    It will be interesting to see what Jones does.
    Bree is a good player with bags of experience in the Championship and has played in the Premiership. You don’t get to do that unless you have something going forward in the modern game.
    That said, I like Apter and would be disappointed if he were not playing. Maybe less so if we are playing Middlesbrough away, unless of course he is in a role other than a wing back.
    Plenty of choices of formations and players. All come with risks and advantages.
    My guess is he will start Bree when fit as he likes to get too 70 minutes not losing.
    As I said. Interesting 🧐 

    Apter is the new Claus. Avoids a tackle like Angela Rayner avoids stamp duty and is a natural going forward.
    I can't stand this habit of clipping a player's wings just to fit in a system. If he has never had defensive qualities, or if his attacking qualities have always outshone his defensive ones, then play him in his natural habitat, FFS.
  • SouthLincsAddick
    SouthLincsAddick
    Does anybody have any knowledge on why the loan is only till Jan? Are we expected to buy him then? The Saints want him back if they have injuries? Is another option like Fukada coming in? NJ has made a big thing about looking for someone for this role (is that a dead ball specialist or more of a dedicated RB) since Jan, which hints at Small not really being the answer. 
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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood
    SouthLincsAddick said:
    Does anybody have any knowledge on why the loan is only till Jan? Are we expected to buy him then? The Saints want him back if they have injuries? Is another option like Fukada coming in? NJ has made a big thing about looking for someone for this role (is that a dead ball specialist or more of a dedicated RB) since Jan, which hints at Small not really being the answer. 
    Just makes the most logical sense. If Bree is really bad we’re not stuck with him for the whole year and can bring in Fukuda in Jan as we free up the space and options. If Bree is brilliant we can probably go to Southampton and make the move permanent in Jan since he’s on the last 6 months of his deal he’s not wanted so will cost almost nothing they’d probably just want his wages off the bill. So this way we can make sure to end up with the best option
  • SouthLincsAddick
    SouthLincsAddick
    Crispywood said:
    SouthLincsAddick said:
    Does anybody have any knowledge on why the loan is only till Jan? Are we expected to buy him then? The Saints want him back if they have injuries? Is another option like Fukada coming in? NJ has made a big thing about looking for someone for this role (is that a dead ball specialist or more of a dedicated RB) since Jan, which hints at Small not really being the answer. 
    Just makes the most logical sense. If Bree is really bad we’re not stuck with him for the whole year and can bring in Fukuda in Jan as we free up the space and options. If Bree is brilliant we can probably go to Southampton and make the move permanent in Jan since he’s on the last 6 months of his deal he’s not wanted so will cost almost nothing they’d probably just want his wages off the bill. So this way we can make sure to end up with the best option
    I agree, makes sense for us, just wondered if any itk’s knew the main reason?
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick
    It’s almost like an extended trial for him I guess. If he performs then we go for him if not we look elsewhere? 
  • robroy
    robroy
    Henry Irving said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    robroy said:
    YannTheMann said:
    robroy said:
    I would like to see Apter in the Carey role with Bree on the right. We then have Carey to replace TC when needed (he played on the left for Blackpool). 


    This sounds like when Appleton popped TC in the middle of the pitch and he got bullied after the first game 
    TC got bullied on Saturday too!
    Did well to get an assist then
    And get the bully booked for pulling him back after TC had skinned him 
    And folding like a deckchair for their second goal?
  • robroy
    robroy
    queensland_addick said:
    I'd like to see Apter more centrally as a 10 type player. Saito changed the game for QPR, and I think Apter is capable of similar.
    With Apter running at the defence Leaburn/Gooden peeling off, we'd create a hell of a lot more than we are currently 
    This is was I said above, lets see what he can do. 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive
    edited September 3
    Can't see it having been explicitly considered yet, so thought i'd ask, if anyone can explain please whether the signing of Bree could have any consequences for Ramsay and how he is asked to play? 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie
    swords_alive said:
    Can't see it having been explicitly considered yet, so thought i'd ask, if anyone can explain please whether the signing of Brie could have any consequences for Ramsay and how he is asked to play? 
    No. Bree is first and foremost a FB, he's also been played on the wing so he will be playing on the same style and position that Apter currently does, albeit he's probably more defensively minded.

    Ramsay will probably therefore need to do less defensive cover out wide but his position/role is fundamentally still the same.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007
    Bree has more recently played RCB for Southampton but is traditionally a RB/RWB, so think he gives us cover in the event Ramsay picks up a knock plus competes with Apter (in the position Apter has started in this season). Think this signing will affect Apter more than Ramsay but not necessarily negatively, can see Apter playing further forward. Could play Apter cutting in from right, rather than TC cutting in from the left for example if a 3-4-1-2 is played or we could switch to 3-4-3 with TC and Apter flanking a STR. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110
    Pavoren007 said:
    Bree has more recently played RCB for Southampton but is traditionally a RB/RWB, so think he gives us cover in the event Ramsay picks up a knock plus competes with Apter (in the position Apter has started in this season). Think this signing will affect Apter more than Ramsay but not necessarily negatively, can see Apter playing further forward. Could play Apter cutting in from right, rather than TC cutting in from the left for example if a 3-4-1-2 is played or we could switch to 3-4-3 with TC and Apter flanking a STR. 
    If that second one happens expect us to be even more overran in central midfield

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