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After the Millwall game - club reply to CAST p34, further CAST response p45
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As I said yesterday......time to make up some placards & flags with support for Palestine Action on them. That way you'll get arrested & out of the area before even the Millwall fans.
Right....where are those black marker pens 🤔15 -
Why not lock Millwall in, and once the area is cleared let them out, like what would happen at the other 91 grounds for this sort of game?KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.24 -
Mounted divide is pretty standard these days anyway, even if not all the way up. I just don't see how things happening outside the ground fall completely at the feet of the clubKBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.0 -
A cunning plan by the old bill. "I'm arresting you for carrying a walking stick in a threatening manner with the likely intention of scaring innocent millwall supporters as they travel calmly home from a soccer match." You're Nicked !Curb_It said:You can if you carry a pair of crutches or a walking stick...0 -
Suspect the mounted police are needed to deal with Tommy ten names plastic patriot thing in Londonfenaddick said:
Mounted divide is pretty standard these days anyway, even if not all the way up. I just don't see how things happening outside the ground fall completely at the feet of the clubKBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.11 -
20k home fans
3k away fans.
Just about every football club in England would hold the away fans back if they thought there could be trouble.
But not us,old bill have decided to piss off the 20k home fans and give preferential treatment to the 3k away fans.
Fucking disgraceful.36 -
Because the club probably don’t want to have to replace £’s of stuff that will inevitably be trashed is my guess.JohnnyH2 said:
Why not lock Millwall in, and once the area is cleared let them out, like what would happen at the other 91 grounds for this sort of game?KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.6 -
Out of interest, when you played Palace in the FA Cup away last season, what happened. Were you held back, diverted down different routes as per above?MillwallFan said:It’s because we need to get off sharpish at the end of the game and join the march 👊🏻😉0 -
I was kept back for over 20 mins at WBA in 2019 after our 2-2 draw. No hostility between fans there but they still kept back the away fans. Imagine West Brom telling their fans they have to leave by other routes because 2k CAFC fans want to go home.
We must be the only club that actively goes out their way to piss off its own fanbase.7 -
All Pompey fans are being bused in and out for the game at Saints this weekend. I'm surprised the Met didn't demand all Charlton fans had to be shuttled in from Dartford or something. Jeez.5
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I'm surprised the useless b******* don't go the whole way and stop Charlton fans going down Floyd Road before the game as well.2
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Absolutely no way there's 0 mounted police tomorrow, they'll just be by the station insteadRothko said:
Suspect the mounted police are needed to deal with Tommy ten names plastic patriot thing in Londonfenaddick said:
Mounted divide is pretty standard these days anyway, even if not all the way up. I just don't see how things happening outside the ground fall completely at the feet of the clubKBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.0 -
The bill would be sent to Millwall and they would pay it.KBslittlesis said:
Because the club probably don’t want to have to replace £’s of stuff that will inevitably be trashed is my guess.JohnnyH2 said:
Why not lock Millwall in, and once the area is cleared let them out, like what would happen at the other 91 grounds for this sort of game?KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.
Disgraceful that we get treated like this.6 -
So it's a club decision?KBslittlesis said:
Because the club probably don’t want to have to replace £’s of stuff that will inevitably be trashed is my guess.JohnnyH2 said:
Why not lock Millwall in, and once the area is cleared let them out, like what would happen at the other 91 grounds for this sort of game?KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.0 -
i think its because keeping them in would be seen as trouble in waiting , smashing up the ground they must reckon on and the agg of the Charlton fucktards who won’t move on, loitering around to goad the scum after we’ve beaten them 3-0 🙄 , whatever it is it’s done with the best of intentions of limiting the amount of trouble for when fuckwits meet fuckwits of the other team .
keeping normal punters , with short fuses away from potential trouble spots will help limit the amount of agg and numbers involved .
its a pain that our fans are punished for their scum elements expected behaviour but that’s unfortunately where we are at .4 -
If that WAS the case then the decision would have been made weeks ago BEFORE any tickets went on sale.KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.
So either the club have kept this back until the day before the game or the Police have only recently decided this.
So.....old bill or Charlton ?0 -
What an ignorant comment.KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.11 -
Two tier policing.
Millwall gonna be allowed to keep their weapons in the sainsbury's whilst we're gonna get nicked for tweets.
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I bet you'll be there instead then given that you're defending themJ BLOCK said:
What an ignorant comment.KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.1 -
You laugh but that’s exactly what used to happen when Cardiff played at the Den. You didn’t get a ticket if you didn’t go on the coach. In and out no bother.Bournemouth Addick said:All Pompey fans are being bused in and out for the game at Saints this weekend. I'm surprised the Met didn't demand all Charlton fans had to be shuttled in from Dartford or something. Jeez.It literally is just down to the numbers of old bill to go around.
Doesn't make it right, if I were still in Blighty with my old hat on I’d be working watching SYL & his goons anyway so would miss the game.
It’s bollix and it’s because we are deemed nicer than them so they can treat us like shit. It has been ever thus 🙄😡2 - Sponsored links:
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All let out at the same time if I remember correctly. Had to follow a certain route but only for a couple of blocks. I had parked the other side of the ground so as soon as I got the opportunity I slipped down a side street and went back on myself. No biggy at all.cabbles said:
Out of interest, when you played Palace in the FA Cup away last season, what happened. Were you held back, diverted down different routes as per above?MillwallFan said:It’s because we need to get off sharpish at the end of the game and join the march 👊🏻😉0 -
I'm so looking forward to the away game now. Lording it over them as I take a leisurely stroll back to the station whilst 20,000 millwall fans are led away from the ground by other routes.....
And if you ever think that's happening then you need your bumps felt.4 -
It would have been a joint decision. There would have been multiple meetings to discuss these issues once they requested the old bill for this category match and got told, sorry but we’ve only got so many to go around.JohnnyH2 said:
So it's a club decision?KBslittlesis said:
Because the club probably don’t want to have to replace £’s of stuff that will inevitably be trashed is my guess.JohnnyH2 said:
Why not lock Millwall in, and once the area is cleared let them out, like what would happen at the other 91 grounds for this sort of game?KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.0 -
It’s worse than that actual, heard the police are setting up tables on Floyd Rd for the Millwall fans on the walk to the station, where all their fans are going to be given a ‘thanks for visiting Charlton’ bag consisting of an Eat Natural bar, a new energy drink, pocket sudoku book and £10 off voucher for Popeyes.O-Randy-Hunt said:I've heard they are keeping home fans in for an hour after the final whistle and away fans won't have to do the walk to the station as the Charlton directors have laid on private cars for them.24 -
Pathetic as per normal!0
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It really isn’t because I spent 10yrs dealing with protesters on alll sides so I think I’m pretty up to date on my protestors tbh.J BLOCK said:
What an ignorant comment.KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.7 -
Big jump you've made there.OhMyGodden said:
I bet you'll be there instead then given that you're defending themJ BLOCK said:
What an ignorant comment.KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.1 -
A "bubble" trip as its knownKBslittlesis said:
You laugh but that’s exactly what used to happen when Cardiff played at the Den. You didn’t get a ticket if you didn’t go on the coach. In and out no bother.Bournemouth Addick said:All Pompey fans are being bused in and out for the game at Saints this weekend. I'm surprised the Met didn't demand all Charlton fans had to be shuttled in from Dartford or something. Jeez.It literally is just down to the numbers of old bill to go around.
Doesn't make it right, if I were still in Blighty with my old hat on I’d be working watching SYL & his goons anyway so would miss the game.
It’s bollix and it’s because we are deemed nicer than them so they can treat us like shit. It has been ever thus 🙄😡0 -
Ah ok, you've spent 10 years dealing with protests so everyone there Saturday are the great unwashed. Got it.KBslittlesis said:
It really isn’t because I spent 10yrs dealing with protesters on alll sides so I think I’m pretty up to date on my protestors tbh.J BLOCK said:
What an ignorant comment.KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.0 -
I didn’t say everyone there will be the great unwashed. You made that assumption.J BLOCK said:
Ah ok, you've spent 10 years dealing with protests so everyone there Saturday are the great unwashed. Got it.KBslittlesis said:
It really isn’t because I spent 10yrs dealing with protesters on alll sides so I think I’m pretty up to date on my protestors tbh.J BLOCK said:
What an ignorant comment.KBslittlesis said:
Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.fenaddick said:
That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?PragueAddick said:How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper?And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way.Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in?I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.2
