This thread demonstrates a lot of why cyclists are in danger on the roads, drivers will always default to victim blaming and fail to take responsibility.
14 months for killing someone, will be out in 7. No wonder drivers have little sense of responsibility when they get in the cars, and it's the most vulnerable road users who pay the price.
High vis doesn't save lives, safe driving and decent infrastructure does.
Disgraceful from Mansfield that he continued to play after being charged. Some family club that.
Nobody is blaming the victim on here - they're simply pointing out there are plenty of unsafe cyclists out there as well.
I'm sick to death of cyclists jumping red lights, riding on pavements and cycling while looking at their phone. Presumably you're okay with this?
Not really clear why there are those cyclists who think the law doesn't apply to them?
I'm not OK with it when there is the possibility of *actual* harm, not just perceived harm. Modified e-bikes is an example, having a heavy bike that can go 30+mph is far more dangerous than anyone just pedalling. I'm not OK with that, and there should be more enforcement there.
If I see a cyclist on their phone, it doesn't really bother me. If I see a car driver on their phone it makes me angry. If I see a lorry driver on their phone, i'm apocalyptic (and I'll contact their employer). Not because of who those people are, but of the possibility of harm of others.
We live in a world where hate on cyclists is popular, has been whipped up by the daily mail / X / facebook, and it's me, my family and my friends who are put at greater risk because of it. This thread is yet another demonstration of it.
This thread demonstrates a lot of why cyclists are in danger on the roads, drivers will always default to victim blaming and fail to take responsibility.
14 months for killing someone, will be out in 7. No wonder drivers have little sense of responsibility when they get in the cars, and it's the most vulnerable road users who pay the price.
High vis doesn't save lives, safe driving and decent infrastructure does.
Disgraceful from Mansfield that he continued to play after being charged. Some family club that.
Nobody is blaming the victim on here - they're simply pointing out there are plenty of unsafe cyclists out there as well.
I'm sick to death of cyclists jumping red lights, riding on pavements and cycling while looking at their phone. Presumably you're okay with this?
Not really clear why there are those cyclists who think the law doesn't apply to them?
I'm not OK with it when there is the possibility of *actual* harm, not just perceived harm. Modified e-bikes is an example, having a heavy bike that can go 30+mph is far more dangerous than anyone just pedalling. I'm not OK with that, and there should be more enforcement there.
If I see a cyclist on their phone, it doesn't really bother me. If I see a car driver on their phone it makes me angry. If I see a lorry driver on their phone, i'm apocalyptic (and I'll contact their employer). Not because of who those people are, but of the possibility of harm of others.
We live in a world where hate on cyclists is popular, has been whipped up by the daily mail / X / facebook, and it's me, my family and my friends who are put at greater risk because of it. This thread is yet another demonstration of it.
According to your logic it doesn't bother you if you see a cyclist on their phone because apparently they can't do any harm. I thought being hit by a cyclist or them causing an accident by not paying attention was a possible problem but obviously I was wrong.
The arrogance of a small minority of cyclists is laughable... I'm sick of avoiding the knobheads who cycle down the towpaths on the Thames at speed with little consideration for pedestrians.
This thread demonstrates a lot of why cyclists are in danger on the roads, drivers will always default to victim blaming and fail to take responsibility.
14 months for killing someone, will be out in 7. No wonder drivers have little sense of responsibility when they get in the cars, and it's the most vulnerable road users who pay the price.
High vis doesn't save lives, safe driving and decent infrastructure does.
Disgraceful from Mansfield that he continued to play after being charged. Some family club that.
Nobody is blaming the victim on here - they're simply pointing out there are plenty of unsafe cyclists out there as well.
I'm sick to death of cyclists jumping red lights, riding on pavements and cycling while looking at their phone. Presumably you're okay with this?
Not really clear why there are those cyclists who think the law doesn't apply to them?
I'm not OK with it when there is the possibility of *actual* harm, not just perceived harm. Modified e-bikes is an example, having a heavy bike that can go 30+mph is far more dangerous than anyone just pedalling. I'm not OK with that, and there should be more enforcement there.
If I see a cyclist on their phone, it doesn't really bother me. If I see a car driver on their phone it makes me angry. If I see a lorry driver on their phone, i'm apocalyptic (and I'll contact their employer). Not because of who those people are, but of the possibility of harm of others.
We live in a world where hate on cyclists is popular, has been whipped up by the daily mail / X / facebook, and it's me, my family and my friends who are put at greater risk because of it. This thread is yet another demonstration of it.
According to your logic it doesn't bother you if you see a cyclist on their phone because apparently they can't do any harm. I thought being hit by a cyclist or them causing an accident by not paying attention was a possible problem but obviously I was wrong.
The arrogance of a small minority of cyclists is laughable... I'm sick of avoiding the knobheads who cycle down the towpaths on the Thames at speed with little consideration for pedestrians.
Going through red lights and not adhering to the rules of the road.
This thread demonstrates a lot of why cyclists are in danger on the roads, drivers will always default to victim blaming and fail to take responsibility.
14 months for killing someone, will be out in 7. No wonder drivers have little sense of responsibility when they get in the cars, and it's the most vulnerable road users who pay the price.
High vis doesn't save lives, safe driving and decent infrastructure does.
Disgraceful from Mansfield that he continued to play after being charged. Some family club that.
Nobody is blaming the victim on here - they're simply pointing out there are plenty of unsafe cyclists out there as well.
I'm sick to death of cyclists jumping red lights, riding on pavements and cycling while looking at their phone. Presumably you're okay with this?
Not really clear why there are those cyclists who think the law doesn't apply to them?
I’d add in cyclists who cycle in flip flops, numerous cyclists who don’t wear helmets, numerous cyclists who don’t have sufficient lights etc etc.
This thread demonstrates a lot of why cyclists are in danger on the roads, drivers will always default to victim blaming and fail to take responsibility.
14 months for killing someone, will be out in 7. No wonder drivers have little sense of responsibility when they get in the cars, and it's the most vulnerable road users who pay the price.
High vis doesn't save lives, safe driving and decent infrastructure does.
Disgraceful from Mansfield that he continued to play after being charged. Some family club that.
Nobody is blaming the victim on here - they're simply pointing out there are plenty of unsafe cyclists out there as well.
I'm sick to death of cyclists jumping red lights, riding on pavements and cycling while looking at their phone. Presumably you're okay with this?
Not really clear why there are those cyclists who think the law doesn't apply to them?
I’d add in cyclists who cycle in flip flops, numerous cyclists who don’t wear helmets, numerous cyclists who don’t have sufficient lights etc etc.
Flip flops? Never seen propa cyclists with flip flops on
This thread demonstrates a lot of why cyclists are in danger on the roads, drivers will always default to victim blaming and fail to take responsibility.
14 months for killing someone, will be out in 7. No wonder drivers have little sense of responsibility when they get in the cars, and it's the most vulnerable road users who pay the price.
High vis doesn't save lives, safe driving and decent infrastructure does.
Disgraceful from Mansfield that he continued to play after being charged. Some family club that.
Nobody is blaming the victim on here - they're simply pointing out there are plenty of unsafe cyclists out there as well.
I'm sick to death of cyclists jumping red lights, riding on pavements and cycling while looking at their phone. Presumably you're okay with this?
Not really clear why there are those cyclists who think the law doesn't apply to them?
I’d add in cyclists who cycle in flip flops, numerous cyclists who don’t wear helmets, numerous cyclists who don’t have sufficient lights etc etc.
Flip flops? Never seen propa cyclists with flip flops on
What makes someone a propa cyclist? Surely anyone riding a bike is a cyclist?
This thread demonstrates a lot of why cyclists are in danger on the roads, drivers will always default to victim blaming and fail to take responsibility.
14 months for killing someone, will be out in 7. No wonder drivers have little sense of responsibility when they get in the cars, and it's the most vulnerable road users who pay the price.
High vis doesn't save lives, safe driving and decent infrastructure does.
Disgraceful from Mansfield that he continued to play after being charged. Some family club that.
Nobody is blaming the victim on here - they're simply pointing out there are plenty of unsafe cyclists out there as well.
I'm sick to death of cyclists jumping red lights, riding on pavements and cycling while looking at their phone. Presumably you're okay with this?
Not really clear why there are those cyclists who think the law doesn't apply to them?
I’d add in cyclists who cycle in flip flops, numerous cyclists who don’t wear helmets, numerous cyclists who don’t have sufficient lights etc etc.
Flip flops? Never seen propa cyclists with flip flops on
What makes someone a propa cyclist? Surely anyone riding a bike is a cyclist?
Well i know a pro cyclist and he don't wear flip flops on his rides lol. If you mean anyone riding a bike fair enough
This thread demonstrates a lot of why cyclists are in danger on the roads, drivers will always default to victim blaming and fail to take responsibility.
14 months for killing someone, will be out in 7. No wonder drivers have little sense of responsibility when they get in the cars, and it's the most vulnerable road users who pay the price.
High vis doesn't save lives, safe driving and decent infrastructure does.
Disgraceful from Mansfield that he continued to play after being charged. Some family club that.
Nobody is blaming the victim on here - they're simply pointing out there are plenty of unsafe cyclists out there as well.
I'm sick to death of cyclists jumping red lights, riding on pavements and cycling while looking at their phone. Presumably you're okay with this?
Not really clear why there are those cyclists who think the law doesn't apply to them?
I’d add in cyclists who cycle in flip flops, numerous cyclists who don’t wear helmets, numerous cyclists who don’t have sufficient lights etc etc.
Flip flops? Never seen propa cyclists with flip flops on
Just as a point of balance a huge % of car drivers are really dangerous and ignore the highway code too. Move to somewhere like where I live, where people don't walk anywhere and just drive, and the dangerous driving is off the charts. The amount of times I've nearly been run over because people speed around corners or is off the charts
Just as a point of balance a huge % of car drivers are really dangerous and ignore the highway code too. Move to somewhere like where I live, where people don't walk anywhere and just drive, and the dangerous driving is off the charts. The amount of times I've nearly been run over because people speed around corners or is off the charts
Basically people are arseholes regardless of their mode of transport.
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He is understood to be available for release after serving half that sentence, with the remaining seven months to be served on license.
It means Akins could play for the League One side before Christmas.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cwyne2x9dk1o
The arrogance of a small minority of cyclists is laughable... I'm sick of avoiding the knobheads who cycle down the towpaths on the Thames at speed with little consideration for pedestrians.
Going through red lights and not adhering to the rules of the road.
If you mean anyone riding a bike fair enough
He meant flippers.
It’s not a small minority either.