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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Millwall: Saturday 13th September 2025: KO 12:30pm
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Anyone who thought this season would be nice and linear is off their heads, but there are enough positives to think we’ll be ok
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Sigh.
So frustrating, when we were up against a misfiring Millwall side, who won't play that poorly very often. That red card was clearly the key moment, Kayne is a brilliant young player, but needs to sometimes make better decisions. He got away with things in L1 that you can't get away with in the Championship.
It's slightly concerning that in 5 games we've scored 3 goals, and none by our strikers. Our system isn't creating chances for them, and I'm not convinced Kelman suits how we play if we continue to play 1 main striker, supported by wide players. We played an Aerial game for 60 minutes, with a striker who likes it on the deck. Cooper knew that he only had to deal with Jones at set pieces.12 -
I assumed they won the toss and choose to switch ends?Elthamaddick said:Also it irrationally annoys me (a lot more than it should for a grown man) when we kick towards the Covered End in the first half6 -
Millwall left winger gave Ramsay a fair bit of trouble. Won't do him any harm in the long run but it cost us today.2
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Get a whorecantersaddick said:
What about when we draw?DaveMehmet said:Gutted but win or lose on the booze
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Effort 10/10
Commitment 10/10
Judgement under pressure 8/10
Game plan ( executed ) 7/10
Gsme plan ( creativity ) 5/10
Threat 7/10
Pleasure to support 15/10
Fans - Millwall were total shite0 -
They are completely different players, Apter is a winger playing as a kind of advanced wing-back, Bree is a full-back who can play wing-back.Garrymanilow said:One big positive is that James Bree looked really excellent. Strong defensively and spent a surprising amount of time in their box. Apter will have to start delivering on a regular basis if he's going to keep him out, good competition to have
If Bree was asked to play in Apter’s role he’d find it tough in the final third.3 -
Where is sniffer dog?, is he out for a long while? Need him up front ASAP.1
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Clive Mendonca not a relative then Golfie, as I believe he called Carl the best forward he played with.golfaddick said:
It wasn't just my dad.....our whole family were !PragueAddick said:Watch the highlights reel, you Leaburn-knockers. Watch the moment on 77 mins when he sets up Tyreece.I reckon your Dads were all Carlo-knockers in 1990 😉3 -
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Lower mid?dwb said:Like others I just don't understand the critical comments about Leaburn.
I thought he worked really hard to close down and compete from the moment he came on. I was pleasantly surprised. I'd start him in the next game.My point being I think we’ll be ok0 -
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We played 10 mins with a back four and were under almost constant pressure during that period.ForeverAddickted said:
Thats what we did...? - I mean not instantly, but we did revert to the three at the backClem_Snide said:There aren’t enough goals in this team. We don’t create enough clear cut chances, yes we were the better team, but you can’t say that the Millwall keeper was particularly overworked.Idiotic from Ramsey and don’t understand going to a back 4 after the red card. Just bring Burke on and stay with 3 at the back.0 -
I expect Millwall won the toss & chose it that way. A win for Alex Neil. The same for their subs when he brought their winger on to torment Ramsey and ultimately got him sent off.Elthamaddick said:Also it irrationally annoys me (a lot more than it should for a grown man) when we kick towards the Covered End in the first half
Small things win games. Or in this case, wins them a point.4 -
Ditto, PA.PragueAddick said:Fucking hell some of these comments about Leaburn are starting to piss me off as much as the policing fiasco. WTAF?
He controlled that ball as though it was stuck to his foot in one of the forward forays after he came onto the pitch. Don't see that too often from our strikers...
He's coming on after 60 mins, has to hit the ground "running" & aim to keep the giant Cooper occupied & IMO he did the job pretty well.
No way does he deserve the narky comments a few Lifers have made tonight.21 -
Harsh I’m watching a replay and he’s punched a ball and collected a ball from a cross type situationsFortune 82nd Minute said:Why Kayne. Why?
That's the only question that needs asking today.
If he hadn't of put in such a rash second challenge we would have won.
We've largely dominated most of the game except for the period when we were down to 10 men. And therefore its so frustrating not to beat such a woeful Millwall team. We won't get a better chance to beat them. That said, I was more than happy to hear the final whistle as it would have been unbearable if we had lost.
One final point. I'm really not impressed by Kaminski and I've no idea why we spent (supposedly) £800k on him. Five games and he hasn't come for a single cross. If Maynard-Brewer had been in goal today and let that goal in, this board would be on fire with people moaning about him simply pushing the first shot straight out. Mannion should have been given a chance to play and the fact he is not on the subs bench makes me wonder if he has had a bust-up with Jones behind the scenes.0 -
We were supposedly the better team against Bristol City. Only 1 point. We were supposedly the better ream against Leicester. No points.TheHerminator said:TC, Carey and Kelman all very good.
Cov, Doc, Jones and Bell all good.Ramsay brain fade but he has loads of brownie points.
if Millwall are the standard for a decent upper mid table championship side, then we will be an upper mid table championship side. We were better than them in all departments for 80 minutes. Harsh lessons learned today but we’ll be fine this year
We could be the better team for the rest of the season but still get relegated. We need to improve our crossing & dead ball situations. We cant keep saying we were the better team and not win.5 -
An enjoyable game, up until Ramsay's sending off. My concern is that when you go down to 10 men, most managers bring on more defenders, and that causes the midfield to drop deeper, so you end up with a back 5, and 3 midfielders standing a couple of meters in front of them. That conceeds a massive space in midfield that allows the opposition a momentum of playing in front of this deep lying defensive set up. My solution to this is to keep the defense the same, but bring in more midfielders to block off the supply.
The defense and midfield also play very narrow, trying to overload the defensive areas. It rarely works, because giving up the midfield and pressure from the wide areas will create chances.
Pack the midfield and keep the defense the same.1 -
Why does one player always, without fail lose their head against Millsmall?1
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NJ always starts slow. It is how he works. It takes time but from what I have seen so far we are in a good place. Carey is adding goals , and that was a fantastic strike, plus to think that we are posing huge questions to teams that think the are more established than us tells a story in itself. The team will evolve, but it was great to see The Valley packed out and rocking , sounding amazing on the stream.9
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Well, the baying crowd need their meat. Docherty would be the normal target, failing that, Tyreece or Anderson, Docherty and Tyreece played very well and they couldn't get to Anderson. I rest safe in the knowledge that the people who are only interested in slaggjng our players, don't pick the team or have any influence over that team, its a forum after all and their opinion is as good as mine but they really are just food for 'Ronnie' .Fanny Fanackapan said:
Ditto, PA.PragueAddick said:Fucking hell some of these comments about Leaburn are starting to piss me off as much as the policing fiasco. WTAF?
He controlled that ball as though it was stuck to his foot in one of the forward forays after he came onto the pitch. Don't see that too often from our strikers...
He's coming on after 60 mins, has to hit the ground "running" & aim to keep the giant Cooper occupied & IMO he did the job pretty well.
No way does he deserve the narky comments a few Lifers have made tonight.3 -
Golfie, with the greatest of respect, I’m sick to the back teeth of your negativity and won’t be engaging 👍golfaddick said:
We were supposedly the better team against Bristol City. Only 1 point. We were supposedly the better ream against Leicester. No points.TheHerminator said:TC, Carey and Kelman all very good.
Cov, Doc, Jones and Bell all good.Ramsay brain fade but he has loads of brownie points.
if Millwall are the standard for a decent upper mid table championship side, then we will be an upper mid table championship side. We were better than them in all departments for 80 minutes. Harsh lessons learned today but we’ll be fine this year
We could be the better team for the rest of the season but still get relegated. We need to improve our crossing & dead ball situations. We cant keep saying we were the better team and not win.1 -
Perhaps some of us see things differently. I've just watched the repeat of our match & watched Leaburn to see what he did. Came on around the 60 min mark & played 35 mins. He was involved in 4 decent attacking plays, including the lovely bit of skill that set up TC's run & shot.....received the ball into his feet in the box where he managed to turn & get a shot away that was blocked. Also won the ball a couple of times in midfield & set up an attack. But keeping Cooper occupied....? Not at all. Didnt win a header & as mentioned earlier mistimes his runs so is invariably not near enough to the ball to win it in the air.Fanny Fanackapan said:
Ditto, PA.PragueAddick said:Fucking hell some of these comments about Leaburn are starting to piss me off as much as the policing fiasco. WTAF?
He controlled that ball as though it was stuck to his foot in one of the forward forays after he came onto the pitch. Don't see that too often from our strikers...
He's coming on after 60 mins, has to hit the ground "running" & aim to keep the giant Cooper occupied & IMO he did the job pretty well.
No way does he deserve the narky comments a few Lifers have made tonight.
Today is not probably a fair reflection as he spent the last 20 mins up front on his own with no other Charlton player within 10 yards of him.
But I stick to what I've said over the last couple of years. For his height he is not very good in the air...certainly not against a central defender. He is skilful on the floor for a tall player but he'll never be a "striker" who will score more than a dozen goals a season.2 -
Forget the match. We played OK, Carey mom and played really well, on to the next one.
Some music to ease the pain.
Don't Look Around - YouTube
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I'm with you on the Bristol gig Golfie, effing Bristol ? I mean, its not as if they had Joe Jordan or Chris Garland playing, and I think Dickie Rooke has turned is toes up, we should have smashed them and that poxy bridge built by that wanker Brunel. Seriously though, you are quite sad ....aren't you petal.golfaddick said:
We were supposedly the better team against Bristol City. Only 1 point. We were supposedly the better ream against Leicester. No points.TheHerminator said:TC, Carey and Kelman all very good.
Cov, Doc, Jones and Bell all good.Ramsay brain fade but he has loads of brownie points.
if Millwall are the standard for a decent upper mid table championship side, then we will be an upper mid table championship side. We were better than them in all departments for 80 minutes. Harsh lessons learned today but we’ll be fine this year
We could be the better team for the rest of the season but still get relegated. We need to improve our crossing & dead ball situations. We cant keep saying we were the better team and not win.2 -
Some really petulant posts on here.
Considering where we’ve been over the last few years, I’m pretty delighted with where we are.
And you can say what you want about mistakes…but I love this team. They give a shit. Keep backing them and we’ll be ok.
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Well said. Fully agreeValley11 said:Some really petulant posts on here.
Considering where we’ve been over the last few years, I’m pretty delighted with where we are.
And you can say what you want about mistakes…but I love this team. They give a shit. Keep backing them and we’ll be ok.11 -
I thought the ref was very decent.sam3110 said:Ref wasn't astonishingly bad, but should have booked Leonard first half and Crama should have already been in the book before his desperate lunge on TC, which he either wouldn't have made, or would have been given his marching orders for.
Just glad he saw the handball(s) and we aren't here lamenting a 2-1 loss18 -
He was. No fuss. No controversial decisions.Gammon said:
I thought the ref was very decent.sam3110 said:Ref wasn't astonishingly bad, but should have booked Leonard first half and Crama should have already been in the book before his desperate lunge on TC, which he either wouldn't have made, or would have been given his marching orders for.
Just glad he saw the handball(s) and we aren't here lamenting a 2-1 loss
But I've realised that after every game someone says the ref was shit - win or lose. It is what it is I guess.7 -
Performance full of heart from Charlton. Great effort. We've got some great individuals talented players yet, to my eyes the masterplan going forward with the ball is one of a Sunday league team.
Jones is a great motivator, he's good at stopping the other team playing, now we need the other third of the job.
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