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After the Millwall game - club reply to CAST p34, further CAST response p45

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  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    Were there any announcements in the ground regarding the post-match, police-ordered, arrangements? If there were then I didn't hear them and if there weren't any, why not?
    Nope. Only BDL at the end of the game. 
    Didn't hear that but then hearing anything being announced, at the back of the CE upper, is nigh on impossible.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,143
    clive said:
    I've asked @greenwichpolice on X on how they think their policing of the game went yesterday. I doubt I'll get an answer.
    Great. More of that, everybody. They need to feel that we are not going to just shrug and move on. however wonder if you used a dud address? It’s @MPSGreenwich
    Maybe contacting this department might be beneficial.

    The United Kingdom Football Policing Unit, UKFPU, are a team of police officers and police staff, dedicated to supporting police forces and partner agencies to ‘reduce incidents of football related anti-social behaviour, violence and disorder involving UK supporters’.

    What the UKFPU does

    The UKFPU gives advice, assistance and training to all police forces in England and Wales to provide a consistent approach to football events. The unit also provides the football arrest figures that are published annually by the Home Office.

    Contact us

    For non-urgent enquiries please email partnership@fpu.police.uk

    The UKFPU and FBOA are available normal office hours, Monday to Friday.

    You can also write to the unit at:

    UKFPU/FBOA
    PO Box 81101
    London
    SW1P 9YZ

    https://www.npcc.police.uk/our-work/united-kingdom-football-policing-unit-ukfpu/


    Passing this on, @castrust in case  you guys dont know about this unit.
  • Valleysarr
    Valleysarr Posts: 1,097
    When is the club statement coming on these events .. 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    clive said:
    Were there any announcements in the ground regarding the post-match, police-ordered, arrangements? If there were then I didn't hear them and if there weren't any, why not?
    There was an announcement towards the end of the game, but hardly audible.
    The lack of communication by the club is inexcusable & probably deliberate, it appears to me that the club are only interested in selling tickets, they do not want people to have any information that would deter them from purchasing tickets such as train disruptions, parking restrictions & police ordered diversions etc.
    Where as Millwall posted clearly on their website on Friday, the policing arrangements & train alterations for Saturday.
    I'm not surprised that Millwall announced it, seeing as their fans were being treated like royalty. The only thing missing was the red carpet!
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,425

    West Ham are not happy they attacked a family stand. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,217
    I get plenty of emails about buying tickets, bring your mates etc but nothing about the arrangements for yesterday.

    First I heard was after I got into the upper West around midday.

    I'll admit I didn't look on here on Friday as was having a day at the races. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    edited September 14

    This photo has really wound me up. Not one of them c***s would have a proper straightner 1 on 1. Proper small dick energy.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,217
    Another point, with police directing thousands of fans to Charlton Lane you'd have thought they might have shut the road to traffic around 2pm.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,733
    iaitch said:
    Another point, with police directing thousands of fans to Charlton Lane you'd have thought they might have shut the road to traffic around 2pm.
    I agree this was negligent. Typically you need an advertised traffic order to close a road, I believe, but the police must have public safety powers. It was an obvious hazard. They also need to explain why officers did not seem to be aware of their own agreement to allow limited access to Ransom Walk.
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  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    iaitch said:
    Another point, with police directing thousands of fans to Charlton Lane you'd have thought they might have shut the road to traffic around 2pm.
    I agree this was negligent. Typically you need an advertised traffic order to close a road, I believe, but the police must have public safety powers. It was an obvious hazard. They also need to explain why officers did not seem to be aware of their own agreement to allow limited access to Ransom Walk.
    Complete incompetence all round.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,905
    edited September 14

    This photo has really wound me up. Not one of them c***s would have a proper straightner 1 on 1. Proper small dick energy.
    You have to question the intelligence of grown men setting about people who want no part of it !! Anyone that can be traced via this photo should get a lifetime football ban
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,205
    Photo from FB - Dads Army and embarrassing 


  • 2 stewards & a supervisor with no radio?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,346
    edited September 14
    Never seen so many flatcaps in my life.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,838
    Solidgone said:
    Photo from FB - Dads Army and embarrassing 

    That's not from yesterday. There weren't any OB in the ground yesterday, or at least not that many.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,453
    I booked parking in Asda until 3.
    Got back to the car at 15:03 because of this shitshow
    Can I use the METs piss poor shambles of an exit strategy as an excuse when the ticket arrives?
  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,636
    I have stood in the home end at Millwall. Always happens when tickets scarce. Just keep quiet
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,341
    Off_it said:
    Solidgone said:
    Photo from FB - Dads Army and embarrassing 

    That's not from yesterday. There weren't any OB in the ground yesterday, or at least not that many.
    That is Rotherham
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,341
    I booked parking in Asda until 3.
    Got back to the car at 15:03 because of this shitshow
    Can I use the METs piss poor shambles of an exit strategy as an excuse when the ticket arrives?
    No
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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    Didn’t we have a fan, who after they equalised ran across corner of pitch and started fighting with Millwall fans in corner of Jimmy Seed


    also, seen video of one of the mouthy ones in east stand actually being a spurs fan giving it to Millwall 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    Solidgone said:
    Photo from FB - Dads Army and embarrassing 

    Also posted 5 days ago, so unless they have a time machine, it's not them at us
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    MrOneLung said:
    Didn’t we have a fan, who after they equalised ran across corner of pitch and started fighting with Millwall fans in corner of Jimmy Seed


    also, seen video of one of the mouthy ones in east stand actually being a spurs fan giving it to Millwall 
    No it was a Scum fan trying to celebrate with them and get into the JS after they equalised but given their fans are essentially the missing link they just started swinging anyway
  • chilham
    chilham Posts: 297
    JohnnyH2 said:
    chilham said:
    Latimer said:
    Well that didn’t work shambles
    Don't know if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I was out quickly at the end through the gate by the Media Centre, amazed to see two mounted police by Ransom Walk, with WPC on one horse charging at the leaving crowd and shouting 'Get back'. Was able to exit along Harvey Gardens towards the 'appointed route' but dozens behind the Covered End walking towards Floyd Rd, presumably oblivious of 'publicised' exit route.
    The term WPC was dropped years ago
    OK police officer (female) on horse...poor policing whatever the correct term.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,218
    https://x.com/mrlukekerr/status/1966859677897289916?s=46&t=HOC8HBC2lCmD1dVHDunaSA

    Not sure if this one has been posted shows the over crowding. 
  • chilham
    chilham Posts: 297
    I've asked @greenwichpolice on X on how they think their policing of the game went yesterday. I doubt I'll get an answer.
    Waste of time commenting on socials, I will be sending email to mps Greenwich 'contact' tomorrow..
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,590
    Kevin and Perry have it large


  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,808
    It was clear coming out after the game yesterday that plenty (hundreds) had no clue about the Floyd road closure as there were just as many people walking towards me as there were walking away

    shite organisation all round and I doubt it’ll be any different next season

    my guess is that the post match threads will read pretty identical 
  • Pelham123
    Pelham123 Posts: 379
    I left the North Lower after our players applauded us. Harvey Gardens was packed solid and unsafe in my opinion. If someone had stumbled and fallen it would have been a serious situation. Shuffled up to junction of Charlton Lane and went down towards crossing. Why did they keep Charlton Lane open to traffic ? A car was stationary on the crossing between the open gates with nowhere to go. Cars behind and a wall of pedestrians in front. I could see the look of terror on the drivers face yet 2 Police officers at the crossing doing nothing about the situation. I hope Network Rail or whoever were remotely monitoring what was going on and prepared to be holding trains if need be.

    Are we the only home fans in this Country to have had these restrictions put in place after a home game ? And I mean treated as away fans.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,590
    Solidgone said:
    Photo from FB - Dads Army and embarrassing 

    Are they pulling a train at the front?