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Tyreece Campbell - June 2025 - called up for Jamaica again (p34)

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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    edited September 22
    Good to see Campbell is targeting 9+ goals this season (from Cawley's free email newsletter). 

    In my opinion, he's doing everything right at the moment, up to the point of shooting. It's going to be very exciting for us when it does click for him in front of goal this season. 
    I really don’t warm to him so there’s possibly some negative bias in what I see. 

    But I see we channel so much ball to him, he’s our key attacking outlet, yet the ratio of it turning to chances and outcomes is far too low for the amount of final third ball and positions he gets. 

    Frustrates me hugely. 
  • hermann
    hermann Posts: 481
    He might actually benefit from coming on fresh against tiring defenders rather than being the one spending 70 minutes tiring them out
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,284
    Some of his shots need more power behind them.
    Need to get Martin back for some coaching 💥
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,965
    Or Simon Church
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    No one has mentioned that the excerpt was really talking about his contract: Asked if he had thought about his future longer term, Campbell said: “No. I just want to play football for Charlton.”


    I know it's partly media training etc but it's still nice. Most players say "I just want to keep perfoming well/helping the team, impressing the manager" etc., it's a subtle difference but maybe a signifcant one, I hope so anyway

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    hermann said:
    He might actually benefit from coming on fresh against tiring defenders rather than being the one spending 70 minutes tiring them out
    Would you have fancied him to tuck that goal away on Saturday?
    I wouldn't have.
    The fact he got one assist last year and still featured in nearly all of the games tells me Jones isn't concerned one bit about his attacking tallies.

    It's difficult to remember he's still only 22. His best years are yet to come. Whether that's in the form of goals and assists i'm not sure. But I'm certain he'll have plenty more savvy in a season or two, which is a frightening prospect for the opposition.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    Good to see Campbell is targeting 9+ goals this season (from Cawley's free email newsletter). 

    In my opinion, he's doing everything right at the moment, up to the point of shooting. It's going to be very exciting for us when it does click for him in front of goal this season. 
    I really don’t warm to him so there’s possibly some negative bias in what I see. 

    But I see we channel so much ball to him, he’s our key attacking outlet, yet the ratio of it turning to chances and outcomes is far too low for the amount of final third ball and positions he gets. 

    Frustrates me hugely. 
    He’s created our most chances this season, and compared to other championship wingers he’s not doing too badly. Especially as a lot of these wingers will get more of the ball than TC does playing for us, and more players in attacking positions to create chances for


    And this is just from his first 6 games at this level, he will get better as the season goes on. 

    Even when he doesn’t create or score, he’s so integral to getting us up the pitch with the way he carries the ball. Even if his run only wins us a free kick or a throw in, we’ve then got possession higher up the pitch. I can see why he is picked to start every game and I don’t see that changing 
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 383
    It is aggravating when your forwards miss chances. We have had dozens of misfiring strikers over recent decades. The difference with Campbell is that nearly all the chances he misses he has manufactured himself. No one ever lays one on a plate for him. In fact he is rarely passed to at all, apart from Bell or Edwards up the line, which still leaves him a long way from goal.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    The only chance he should have scored from this season was the header against Leicester. When I look back on that game, it was our best performance of the season but we lost because we snatched at excellent chances. 
  • I'd love him to be a little more direct, sometimes he just does a trick or two too much.  It's the same with most you haters though so hopefully that comes in time.  Very good player with a high ceiling.
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  • CAFC_boi
    CAFC_boi Posts: 271
    He’s still not going to score a championship goal, which when your playing as a striker is going to massively hinder the team’s goal return. 

    He’s great at dribbling but has terrible composure and finishing, so it looks good with little end product. 

    I can’t wait to be proved wrong and have it all rubbed into me on Twitter and here but so far I’ve been right and Tanto even scores within 10 minutes. 

    Absolutely laughable TC has a target of 9 goals in the Championship. He couldn’t even get that in league one. 
  • CAFC_boi
    CAFC_boi Posts: 271
    Good to see Campbell is targeting 9+ goals this season (from Cawley's free email newsletter). 

    In my opinion, he's doing everything right at the moment, up to the point of shooting. It's going to be very exciting for us when it does click for him in front of goal this season. 
    I really don’t warm to him so there’s possibly some negative bias in what I see. 

    But I see we channel so much ball to him, he’s our key attacking outlet, yet the ratio of it turning to chances and outcomes is far too low for the amount of final third ball and positions he gets. 

    Frustrates me hugely. 
    Glad to see someone sensible I actually agree with on TC. 

    I’m not sure I watch the same player as everyone else quite frankly.

    if he was a new signing this season, he would be getting far more comments he’s not up to it, but academy products get extra protection. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited September 22
    CAFC_boi said:
    Good to see Campbell is targeting 9+ goals this season (from Cawley's free email newsletter). 

    In my opinion, he's doing everything right at the moment, up to the point of shooting. It's going to be very exciting for us when it does click for him in front of goal this season. 
    I really don’t warm to him so there’s possibly some negative bias in what I see. 

    But I see we channel so much ball to him, he’s our key attacking outlet, yet the ratio of it turning to chances and outcomes is far too low for the amount of final third ball and positions he gets. 

    Frustrates me hugely. 
    Glad to see someone sensible I actually agree with on TC. 

    I’m not sure I watch the same player as everyone else quite frankly.

    if he was a new signing this season, he would be getting far more comments he’s not up to it, but academy products get extra protection. 
    He makes opposition defenders absolutely sh*t themselves. The fact that they're immediately on the backfoot as soon as he drives with the ball is winning us 20+ yards of territory every time he gets it and that means we're not constantly defending balls into our box with less than half the ball across 90 minutes.

    There has to be something in almost every opposition fanbase coming away from our games saying he's our most dangerous player, doesn't there?


    There's a place up for grabs in the front line for sure but it's not Tyreece's place that's in danger.
  • CAFC_boi
    CAFC_boi Posts: 271
    CAFC_boi said:
    Good to see Campbell is targeting 9+ goals this season (from Cawley's free email newsletter). 

    In my opinion, he's doing everything right at the moment, up to the point of shooting. It's going to be very exciting for us when it does click for him in front of goal this season. 
    I really don’t warm to him so there’s possibly some negative bias in what I see. 

    But I see we channel so much ball to him, he’s our key attacking outlet, yet the ratio of it turning to chances and outcomes is far too low for the amount of final third ball and positions he gets. 

    Frustrates me hugely. 
    Glad to see someone sensible I actually agree with on TC. 

    I’m not sure I watch the same player as everyone else quite frankly.

    if he was a new signing this season, he would be getting far more comments he’s not up to it, but academy products get extra protection. 
    He makes opposition defenders absolutely sh*t themselves. The fact that they're immediately on the backfoot as soon as he drives with the ball is winning us 20+ yards of territory every time he gets it and that means we're not constantly defending balls into our box with less than half the ball across 90 minutes.

    There has to be something in almost every opposition fanbase coming away from our games saying he's our most dangerous player, doesn't there?


    There's a place up for grabs in the front line for sure but it's not Tyreece's place that's in danger.
    He may make defenders absolutely shit themselves but he doesn’t make keepers absolutely shit themselves and that is the problem. 

    If we’re 20 games into the season and TC hasn’t scored a Championship goal will you change your tune? Because unless he dramatically improves his finishing, that’s what’s going to happen, in my opinion. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    CAFC_boi said:
    He’s still not going to score a championship goal, which when your playing as a striker is going to massively hinder the team’s goal return. 

    He’s great at dribbling but has terrible composure and finishing, so it looks good with little end product. 

    I can’t wait to be proved wrong and have it all rubbed into me on Twitter and here but so far I’ve been right and Tanto even scores within 10 minutes. 

    Absolutely laughable TC has a target of 9 goals in the Championship. He couldn’t even get that in league one. 
    How have you been right? Whether TC scores or not isn’t the indicator of whether playing him was correct, whether the team does well is what matters. TC is starting, playing well and we are doing well. Jones is right to pick him every week, and he was right to use Tanto off the bench as one of the 3 subs that helped us win the game 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    CAFC_boi said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    Good to see Campbell is targeting 9+ goals this season (from Cawley's free email newsletter). 

    In my opinion, he's doing everything right at the moment, up to the point of shooting. It's going to be very exciting for us when it does click for him in front of goal this season. 
    I really don’t warm to him so there’s possibly some negative bias in what I see. 

    But I see we channel so much ball to him, he’s our key attacking outlet, yet the ratio of it turning to chances and outcomes is far too low for the amount of final third ball and positions he gets. 

    Frustrates me hugely. 
    Glad to see someone sensible I actually agree with on TC. 

    I’m not sure I watch the same player as everyone else quite frankly.

    if he was a new signing this season, he would be getting far more comments he’s not up to it, but academy products get extra protection. 
    He makes opposition defenders absolutely sh*t themselves. The fact that they're immediately on the backfoot as soon as he drives with the ball is winning us 20+ yards of territory every time he gets it and that means we're not constantly defending balls into our box with less than half the ball across 90 minutes.

    There has to be something in almost every opposition fanbase coming away from our games saying he's our most dangerous player, doesn't there?


    There's a place up for grabs in the front line for sure but it's not Tyreece's place that's in danger.
    He may make defenders absolutely shit themselves but he doesn’t make keepers absolutely shit themselves and that is the problem. 

    If we’re 20 games into the season and TC hasn’t scored a Championship goal will you change your tune? Because unless he dramatically improves his finishing, that’s what’s going to happen, in my opinion. 
    I don’t care if he doesn’t score all season as long as he plays well and we keep getting good results. Why does he need to score goals? He’s created our most chances this season, and already has one assist 

    I think the goals will start to come for him at some point, but judging how well he’s doing purely by how many goals he’s scored is just stupid 
  • CAFC_boi
    CAFC_boi Posts: 271
    edited September 22
    NabySarr said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    He’s still not going to score a championship goal, which when your playing as a striker is going to massively hinder the team’s goal return. 

    He’s great at dribbling but has terrible composure and finishing, so it looks good with little end product. 

    I can’t wait to be proved wrong and have it all rubbed into me on Twitter and here but so far I’ve been right and Tanto even scores within 10 minutes. 

    Absolutely laughable TC has a target of 9 goals in the Championship. He couldn’t even get that in league one. 
    How have you been right? Whether TC scores or not isn’t the indicator of whether playing him was correct, whether the team does well is what matters. TC is starting, playing well and we are doing well. Jones is right to pick him every week, and he was right to use Tanto off the bench as one of the 3 subs that helped us win the game 
    I’ve said he won’t score a championship goal, this season, which is factually correct right now. 

    Don’t dispute the team is doing well but that’s mainly down to our excellent defence. Tanto scored from a position TC never would have been in. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    Always worth remembering that TC is always the player opposition fans pick out as looking dangerous 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    CAFC_boi said:
    NabySarr said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    He’s still not going to score a championship goal, which when your playing as a striker is going to massively hinder the team’s goal return. 

    He’s great at dribbling but has terrible composure and finishing, so it looks good with little end product. 

    I can’t wait to be proved wrong and have it all rubbed into me on Twitter and here but so far I’ve been right and Tanto even scores within 10 minutes. 

    Absolutely laughable TC has a target of 9 goals in the Championship. He couldn’t even get that in league one. 
    How have you been right? Whether TC scores or not isn’t the indicator of whether playing him was correct, whether the team does well is what matters. TC is starting, playing well and we are doing well. Jones is right to pick him every week, and he was right to use Tanto off the bench as one of the 3 subs that helped us win the game 
    I’ve said he won’t score a championship goal, which is factually correct right now. 

    Don’t dispute the team is doing well but that’s mainly down to our excellent defence. Tanto scored from a position TC never would have been in. 
    And TC has definitely contributed to that defensive record. Without him we’d struggle to get out of our own half at times, he’s our main out ball and runs his socks off every game 

    Yes, he could be better in front of goal, but other than 1 header (not his strong point at all), it’s not like he’s missed any big chances that our other players would score. 

    He probably wouldn’t have been in the position Tanto was in to score, but Tanto wouldn’t have done a lot of the good work TC has done this season. That’s why you have different options and Jones knows when and where to use them pretty well 
  • CAFC_boi
    CAFC_boi Posts: 271
    NabySarr said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    NabySarr said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    He’s still not going to score a championship goal, which when your playing as a striker is going to massively hinder the team’s goal return. 

    He’s great at dribbling but has terrible composure and finishing, so it looks good with little end product. 

    I can’t wait to be proved wrong and have it all rubbed into me on Twitter and here but so far I’ve been right and Tanto even scores within 10 minutes. 

    Absolutely laughable TC has a target of 9 goals in the Championship. He couldn’t even get that in league one. 
    How have you been right? Whether TC scores or not isn’t the indicator of whether playing him was correct, whether the team does well is what matters. TC is starting, playing well and we are doing well. Jones is right to pick him every week, and he was right to use Tanto off the bench as one of the 3 subs that helped us win the game 
    I’ve said he won’t score a championship goal, which is factually correct right now. 

    Don’t dispute the team is doing well but that’s mainly down to our excellent defence. Tanto scored from a position TC never would have been in. 
    And TC has definitely contributed to that defensive record. Without him we’d struggle to get out of our own half at times, he’s our main out ball and runs his socks off every game 

    Yes, he could be better in front of goal, but other than 1 header (not his strong point at all), it’s not like he’s missed any big chances that our other players would score. 

    He probably wouldn’t have been in the position Tanto was in to score, but Tanto wouldn’t have done a lot of the good work TC has done this season. That’s why you have different options and Jones knows when and where to use them pretty well 
    A good and fair comment, which I agree with. 
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  • It’s a results based game and to get results you need end product from your forward players, he doesn’t have the quality (yet) to produce. Doesn’t matter how many times you run at people, without end product you’ll eventually find yourself out of the side for someone who can. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    It’s a results based game and to get results you need end product from your forward players, he doesn’t have the quality (yet) to produce. Doesn’t matter how many times you run at people, without end product you’ll eventually find yourself out of the side for someone who can. 
    End product isn’t just goals though, he’s created our most chances and has an assist from a good cross. 

    Surely Kelman is first in line to be left out if we want to change a forward player. He’s only had 2 shots this season and contributes way less than TC does to the team 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited September 22
    CAFC_boi said:
    He’s still not going to score a championship goal, which when your playing as a striker is going to massively hinder the team’s goal return. 

    He’s great at dribbling but has terrible composure and finishing, so it looks good with little end product. 

    I can’t wait to be proved wrong and have it all rubbed into me on Twitter and here but so far I’ve been right and Tanto even scores within 10 minutes. 

    Absolutely laughable TC has a target of 9 goals in the Championship. He couldn’t even get that in league one. 
    Very bold statement to say he won't score a Championship goal when he could feature in 30/40+ games this season.

    I'm somewhere in the middle on him, I don't agree with some that he's our best player. He won't keep his place if the end product doesn't start coming through, but I don't agree with writing him off, he's still only 22 and last season was his first season of regular starts. As a team we're still adapting to this level, and our attacking play should improve as the season goes on.

    He's not a poacher and won't score many tap ins or grab the type of goal Tanto did over his career, but pretty much every goal he's scored for the first team was a composed finish, with either foot, often involving him creating the space for himself or by running at the opposition.

    I'd be surprised if he goes all season without scoring at least a few similar goals. The step up a division of course makes it harder, but it'll also create space as teams won't sit back deep in numbers like many clubs did in L1. At some point he'll take advantage of that.

    I think his biggest weakness is in his head, it's his confidence and belief. He made progress last season and it might take time, but he's still got room to grow further.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppHHf5TwS4
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,219
    It’s a results based game and to get results you need end product from your forward players, he doesn’t have the quality (yet) to produce. Doesn’t matter how many times you run at people, without end product you’ll eventually find yourself out of the side for someone who can. 
    Aren't assists, winning corners, and free kicks in dangerous positions also end product? 

    It's not TC's fault we're not making the most of all the free kicks he wins every game. 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,977
    I thought he was crap against us last Saturday.
  • CAFCTrev said:
    I thought he was crap against us last Saturday.
    He was even worse at taking chances than ours
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    CAFC_boi said:
    NabySarr said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    He’s still not going to score a championship goal, which when your playing as a striker is going to massively hinder the team’s goal return. 

    He’s great at dribbling but has terrible composure and finishing, so it looks good with little end product. 

    I can’t wait to be proved wrong and have it all rubbed into me on Twitter and here but so far I’ve been right and Tanto even scores within 10 minutes. 

    Absolutely laughable TC has a target of 9 goals in the Championship. He couldn’t even get that in league one. 
    How have you been right? Whether TC scores or not isn’t the indicator of whether playing him was correct, whether the team does well is what matters. TC is starting, playing well and we are doing well. Jones is right to pick him every week, and he was right to use Tanto off the bench as one of the 3 subs that helped us win the game 
    I’ve said he won’t score a championship goal, this season, which is factually correct right now. 

    Don’t dispute the team is doing well but that’s mainly down to our excellent defence. Tanto scored from a position TC never would have been in. 
    More of a concern is that TC would not have put the ball over like Bree …. that’s the problem this season is his lack of creating chances.. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    CAFC_boi said:
    NabySarr said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    He’s still not going to score a championship goal, which when your playing as a striker is going to massively hinder the team’s goal return. 

    He’s great at dribbling but has terrible composure and finishing, so it looks good with little end product. 

    I can’t wait to be proved wrong and have it all rubbed into me on Twitter and here but so far I’ve been right and Tanto even scores within 10 minutes. 

    Absolutely laughable TC has a target of 9 goals in the Championship. He couldn’t even get that in league one. 
    How have you been right? Whether TC scores or not isn’t the indicator of whether playing him was correct, whether the team does well is what matters. TC is starting, playing well and we are doing well. Jones is right to pick him every week, and he was right to use Tanto off the bench as one of the 3 subs that helped us win the game 
    I’ve said he won’t score a championship goal, this season, which is factually correct right now. 

    Don’t dispute the team is doing well but that’s mainly down to our excellent defence. Tanto scored from a position TC never would have been in. 
    More of a concern is that TC would not have put the ball over like Bree …. that’s the problem this season is his lack of creating chances.. 
    Going on the stats, TC is one of our best players for creating chances this season and last season.

    If set pieces are included in these numbers then that only makes him look better as he never takes them.


  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    Lot of TC chat on other threads but thought I’d put this in here that TC is on average carrying the ball 120m per 90 minutes of football this season. That’s what his most important contribution is to the team performance and something he does brilliantly 

    Apter has similar numbers, but I think if Bree is starting over Apter, then it is even more important that TC starts so that we have someone who is able to get us up the pitch like TC does 

    Olaofe carried the ball very well yesterday, but doing so from the bench against tired legs is a lot easier to do. Personally I doubt Olaofe would be able to do that starting a game playing 70 mins like TC is able to do 


  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    NabySarr said:
    Lot of TC chat on other threads but thought I’d put this in here that TC is on average carrying the ball 120m per 90 minutes of football this season. That’s what his most important contribution is to the team performance and something he does brilliantly 

    Apter has similar numbers, but I think if Bree is starting over Apter, then it is even more important that TC starts so that we have someone who is able to get us up the pitch like TC does 

    Olaofe carried the ball very well yesterday, but doing so from the bench against tired legs is a lot easier to do. Personally I doubt Olaofe would be able to do that starting a game playing 70 mins like TC is able to do 


    And yet the issue is that in terms of stats he doesn't create many good quality chances or have efforts on goal that test the opposition keeper sufficiently. 

    He is doing well, but we haven't tried anyone else on the left wing to properly compare his contributions. Apter and Bree have both done better than him in terms of output when they've both started. 

    I'm sure Olaofe is also able to carry a ball, run and pressure. We saw that yesterday.