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POST-MATCH THREAD: Ipswich Town v Charlton Athletic: Tuesday 21st October 2025: KO 19:45
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Love it. You got some great game footage tooBraziliance said:6 -
The absence of TC first half led to increased pressure on us, as Tanto cannot press like TC. Had Akpom's shot gone instead of hitting the bar, the game would have gone differently. Apart from missing a good chance Tanto did not offer much attacking either.MickeyBennett said:Incredible performance - weird that the team did not seem leggy at all. Was surprised given mediocre performance against sheff Wednesday.
Thought Kelman/Tanto looked like more balanced partnership so would go with that again for Hull.
Want to see Leaburn/Campbell start together at some point as they look to have good understanding. Though appreciate this would impact the way we press teams.
Now that we are promotion contenders maybe teams will get wuse to our tactics and start sitting back against us. Leaburn/Campbell would be ideal in this scenario.
The fact that we took great advantage second half should not blind us to the problem of only having two pressing forwards.2 -
Ahh so TC came on at 0-0 did he when we were under the cosh?Southbank said:
The absence of TC first half led to increased pressure on us, as Tanto cannot press like TC. Had Akpom's shot gone instead of hitting the bar, the game would have gone differently. Apart from missing a good chance Tanto did not offer much attacking either.MickeyBennett said:Incredible performance - weird that the team did not seem leggy at all. Was surprised given mediocre performance against sheff Wednesday.
Thought Kelman/Tanto looked like more balanced partnership so would go with that again for Hull.
Want to see Leaburn/Campbell start together at some point as they look to have good understanding. Though appreciate this would impact the way we press teams.
Now that we are promotion contenders maybe teams will get wuse to our tactics and start sitting back against us. Leaburn/Campbell would be ideal in this scenario.
The fact that we took great advantage second half should not blind us to the problem of only having two pressing forwards.
Been plenty of games where for 60 minutes we've withstood similar pressure with TC being on the pitch, only for the subs to turn the game around to steal a 1-0.6 -
LargeAddick said:
In a photo posted elsewhere you could see a shadow on the line from the ball so my instinct is it was in play but ultimately I don’t care.SoundAsa£ said:As for the ball being out of play it’s debatable.
From what I saw (and made out), it was 50/50…..was the “whole circumference of the ball” outside the line, the bottom surface of the ball certainly was but highly debatable from what we’ve seen IMHO.
When this happens light is seen between the bottom of the ball and the line this sometimes misleads the viewer to believe that the whole circumference is outside the line……especially when it’s happening so fast.The shadow would have been from the floodlights which were not shining straght down onto the ball.That said, SKY actually showed a freeze frame at the point TC crossed the ball and it didn't look completely out - the pitch side of the ball looked like it hadn't fully crossed the line.But yes, like you, I couldn't give a toss!3 -
We all see things differently,but I dont think we rode our luck.We defended superbly,and really restricted their opportunities.We had as many chances as them,Tanto,Gillespie should have scored,plus TC had one miss by a whisker,and then the half volley by I think Bree,which he had time to take a touch.Playing like this we will frustrate many supposedly superior sides.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m done with trying to second guess this Charlton team. I thought Ipswich at home would have too much for us last night and after the first 35 minutes I was expecting a 3 - 0 but not a 0 - 3. Yes we rode our luck but we grafted and never dropped our heads when we could have actually been 3 - 0 down. Perhaps the real difference between us and them was that although we’re not all conquering we’re not fragile and I think Ipswich showed last night second half that they are brittle. They collapsed. Jones has built a group that are a proper team. No egos, no slackers and battlers to a man. Will that be enough to get us into playoff contention ? I still don’t think so but I said the same last season. What I do know is that any team we play will have to be on their game to beat us. First season back and that’s all we can ask for. Away support magnificent .2 -
Bloody hell @Braziliance, you looked like you were gonna have a cardiac arrest mate, great video, and love those Ipswich fans with their ,"little 'ol Charlton we will win easy, if you can keep the score down" stuff...
We fu*kin' showed them big time...NJ is a legend5 -
Watched live not on tv.AddicksAddict said:
I take it you didn’t see the 4-2 at Highbury?Hartleypete said:Probably the best Charlton performance I have seen live on Tv.
Well done Nathan and the boys, wonderful stuff.1 -
There's not much I can say at 14 pages in that hasn't already been said about the game last night. One thing I did notice though was that at 2 or 3 up last night there was a point we had the ball on the edge of their box and there were 6 other boys in red in the picture on my tv screen. We absolutely suffocated them and it makes a huge difference to see us going for the jugular rather than sitting back and defending a lead.11
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I think our first half problems were more about what we were doing with the ball than what we were doing without it.Southbank said:
The absence of TC first half led to increased pressure on us, as Tanto cannot press like TC. Had Akpom's shot gone instead of hitting the bar, the game would have gone differently. Apart from missing a good chance Tanto did not offer much attacking either.MickeyBennett said:Incredible performance - weird that the team did not seem leggy at all. Was surprised given mediocre performance against sheff Wednesday.
Thought Kelman/Tanto looked like more balanced partnership so would go with that again for Hull.
Want to see Leaburn/Campbell start together at some point as they look to have good understanding. Though appreciate this would impact the way we press teams.
Now that we are promotion contenders maybe teams will get wuse to our tactics and start sitting back against us. Leaburn/Campbell would be ideal in this scenario.
The fact that we took great advantage second half should not blind us to the problem of only having two pressing forwards.Could definitely argue we needed TC as an out ball to get us up the pitch, which Tanto wasn’t really offering. But I don’t think pressing was our problem, our struggle was that we couldn’t get out of our half and played too many passes at the back or got caught in possession in our own half.1 -
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I would be very surprised if TC does not start on Saturday.SELR_addicks said:
Ahh so TC came on at 0-0 did he when we were under the cosh?Southbank said:
The absence of TC first half led to increased pressure on us, as Tanto cannot press like TC. Had Akpom's shot gone instead of hitting the bar, the game would have gone differently. Apart from missing a good chance Tanto did not offer much attacking either.MickeyBennett said:Incredible performance - weird that the team did not seem leggy at all. Was surprised given mediocre performance against sheff Wednesday.
Thought Kelman/Tanto looked like more balanced partnership so would go with that again for Hull.
Want to see Leaburn/Campbell start together at some point as they look to have good understanding. Though appreciate this would impact the way we press teams.
Now that we are promotion contenders maybe teams will get wuse to our tactics and start sitting back against us. Leaburn/Campbell would be ideal in this scenario.
The fact that we took great advantage second half should not blind us to the problem of only having two pressing forwards.
Been plenty of games where for 60 minutes we've withstood similar pressure with TC being on the pitch, only for the subs to turn the game around to steal a 1-0.4 -
I'd keep it as is, I mean it worked pretty well didn't it?Southbank said:
I would be very surprised if TC does not start on Saturday.SELR_addicks said:
Ahh so TC came on at 0-0 did he when we were under the cosh?Southbank said:
The absence of TC first half led to increased pressure on us, as Tanto cannot press like TC. Had Akpom's shot gone instead of hitting the bar, the game would have gone differently. Apart from missing a good chance Tanto did not offer much attacking either.MickeyBennett said:Incredible performance - weird that the team did not seem leggy at all. Was surprised given mediocre performance against sheff Wednesday.
Thought Kelman/Tanto looked like more balanced partnership so would go with that again for Hull.
Want to see Leaburn/Campbell start together at some point as they look to have good understanding. Though appreciate this would impact the way we press teams.
Now that we are promotion contenders maybe teams will get wuse to our tactics and start sitting back against us. Leaburn/Campbell would be ideal in this scenario.
The fact that we took great advantage second half should not blind us to the problem of only having two pressing forwards.
Been plenty of games where for 60 minutes we've withstood similar pressure with TC being on the pitch, only for the subs to turn the game around to steal a 1-0.3 -
Braziliance, best vlog yet, good luck up at Hull on Saturday.
When you asked what happened to Ipswich in 1978, they beat Arsenal at Wembley 1-0 in the Cup Final. I know because I was there!1 -
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You sat 3 seats to the right of us second half, was too busy to really say hello!Braziliance said:
Captured the night tho, we just sat and watched the vlog, smiled the whole way through (helps we’re going mad in the background)2 -
NJ was critical of us sitting back in the first half. There was no out ball available and that will have not been lost on NJTalal said:
I'd keep it as is, I mean it worked pretty well didn't it?Southbank said:
I would be very surprised if TC does not start on Saturday.SELR_addicks said:
Ahh so TC came on at 0-0 did he when we were under the cosh?Southbank said:
The absence of TC first half led to increased pressure on us, as Tanto cannot press like TC. Had Akpom's shot gone instead of hitting the bar, the game would have gone differently. Apart from missing a good chance Tanto did not offer much attacking either.MickeyBennett said:Incredible performance - weird that the team did not seem leggy at all. Was surprised given mediocre performance against sheff Wednesday.
Thought Kelman/Tanto looked like more balanced partnership so would go with that again for Hull.
Want to see Leaburn/Campbell start together at some point as they look to have good understanding. Though appreciate this would impact the way we press teams.
Now that we are promotion contenders maybe teams will get wuse to our tactics and start sitting back against us. Leaburn/Campbell would be ideal in this scenario.
The fact that we took great advantage second half should not blind us to the problem of only having two pressing forwards.
Been plenty of games where for 60 minutes we've withstood similar pressure with TC being on the pitch, only for the subs to turn the game around to steal a 1-0.0 -
In the circumstances TC has the best view and so there's a case for him owning up and conceding the goal kick. He chose to play on and i think we have to trust his judgement that that was the right thing to do.golfaddick said:
What is more telling is that none of the Ipswich players appealed at all. Not the keeper nor the defender who was 2 yards away. And players appeal for everything !BigDiddy said:
AI/Fake News……..guinnessaddick said:
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Still buzzing. It feels like had they taken a chance and the lead we would probably have lost it. But we have to remember we had two great chances in the first half. We are probably as bad a team to go behind to there is statistically and here's to going ahead against Hull on Saturday. Where Dean Holden is the assistant manager. Well done Nathan Jones and Gillesphey has to have qualified as a Charlton Legend by now.6
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Ipswich might have not hit the target, but had masses of chances in the first half before we had the two late chances. That's how they ended up with 2.47 xGLargeAddick said:
I disagree that we could’ve been 3-0 down, 2-2 at half time might have been a better reflection on the score but even then we had the two most clear cut chances through Tanto and Gilly. For all their pressure in the opening half hour or so I can only remember Kaminski making one save. Hitting the bar isn’t even statistically a shot on target.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m done with trying to second guess this Charlton team. I thought Ipswich at home would have too much for us last night and after the first 35 minutes I was expecting a 3 - 0 but not a 0 - 3. Yes we rode our luck but we grafted and never dropped our heads when we could have actually been 3 - 0 down. Perhaps the real difference between us and them was that although we’re not all conquering we’re not fragile and I think Ipswich showed last night second half that they are brittle. They collapsed. Jones has built a group that are a proper team. No egos, no slackers and battlers to a man. Will that be enough to get us into playoff contention ? I still don’t think so but I said the same last season. What I do know is that any team we play will have to be on their game to beat us. First season back and that’s all we can ask for. Away support magnificent .0 -
Why don't they just own up, they huffed and puffed first half, and we just sorted out their pathetic attempts at scoring, second half we thought we'd step up a gear and show them how it's done...bunch of losers the lot of 'em...😂Callumcafc said:0 -
Amazing result and second half performance.
In Jones we trust.
Got this flag made up after the Blackburn win to hang behind Covered End goal where we sit....he thoroughly deserves it.
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I always at least try to see things without my rose tinted specs and I can honestly say that I thought that Ipswich were absolutely dominant in the first 35 mins. Yes we had a couple of chances but they had so many dangerous positions that thankfully due to poor finishing and good defending came to nothing. Second half different game. I certainly breathed a sigh of relief when the ref blew that half time whistle.killerandflash said:
Ipswich might have not hit the target, but had masses of chances in the first half before we had the two late chances. That's how they ended up with 2.47 xGLargeAddick said:
I disagree that we could’ve been 3-0 down, 2-2 at half time might have been a better reflection on the score but even then we had the two most clear cut chances through Tanto and Gilly. For all their pressure in the opening half hour or so I can only remember Kaminski making one save. Hitting the bar isn’t even statistically a shot on target.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m done with trying to second guess this Charlton team. I thought Ipswich at home would have too much for us last night and after the first 35 minutes I was expecting a 3 - 0 but not a 0 - 3. Yes we rode our luck but we grafted and never dropped our heads when we could have actually been 3 - 0 down. Perhaps the real difference between us and them was that although we’re not all conquering we’re not fragile and I think Ipswich showed last night second half that they are brittle. They collapsed. Jones has built a group that are a proper team. No egos, no slackers and battlers to a man. Will that be enough to get us into playoff contention ? I still don’t think so but I said the same last season. What I do know is that any team we play will have to be on their game to beat us. First season back and that’s all we can ask for. Away support magnificent .5 -
If you think Tanto can't press (when even his ex manager Dave Challinor has singled out how could his pressing is) and the absence of TC is the reason we were under increased pressure (what about the game where we were under pressure with TC on the pitch), then I don't think you have a good grip on what football is, anyone who watched the game yesterday could see in the first half, Ipswich, who do have some notable technican were bypassing any press, which happens they are a recent Prem team, and in turn we were quite sloppy when we did have the ball, and that wasnt down to the absence of TCSouthbank said:
The absence of TC first half led to increased pressure on us, as Tanto cannot press like TC. Had Akpom's shot gone instead of hitting the bar, the game would have gone differently. Apart from missing a good chance Tanto did not offer much attacking either.MickeyBennett said:Incredible performance - weird that the team did not seem leggy at all. Was surprised given mediocre performance against sheff Wednesday.
Thought Kelman/Tanto looked like more balanced partnership so would go with that again for Hull.
Want to see Leaburn/Campbell start together at some point as they look to have good understanding. Though appreciate this would impact the way we press teams.
Now that we are promotion contenders maybe teams will get wuse to our tactics and start sitting back against us. Leaburn/Campbell would be ideal in this scenario.
The fact that we took great advantage second half should not blind us to the problem of only having two pressing forwards.5 -
I agree that Kelman is playing his part in our good performances.BigDiddy said:
Kelman is a good player- Nathan's system is all about not giving away goals, but I hope that we will get more offensive once we have safety secured. He will score goals after Xmas, but our playing style is brilliant because we are so hard to beat, so our forwards all get isolated. Charlie's running, touch and pressing is brilliant and I wish all our fans get behind him now.1StevieG said:Anyone still think Kelman is a dud?😂
The TEAM is more important than one player and he is already playing his part.
Not so sure about post Christmas though, surely Godden has a good shout over Kelman when he is fit?0 -
I thought the issue up front, first half, wasn't our inability to press (because we were pressing and Ipswich were just quite good at playing around it, as you would expect of a recently relegated side with plenty of ex Premier League players). More our issue was our passing wasn't sharp or accurate enough and we lacked a hold up man to get on the ball and allow us to get up the pitch a bit. In that regard, Leaburn might have made more of a difference, than TC, as he showed second half how good he is at that when he gets balls into his feet.
Neither Tanto or Kelman had bad games, per say, first half but we didn't give them much to work with in terms of accurate forward passes. Once the midfield started to get to grips with the game that changed and the forward players (all 4 of them) looked better and more involved.
Also worth remembering that by the time TC and Leaburn were on yesterday we were already 2-0 up. Ipswich were both chasing the game and in general disarray at that point which left huge gaping spaces for the two of them to exploit. A luxury our forwards are not often afforded when so many of our games are tight affairs won or lost by the odd goal. They were both bound to look better in those circumstances, although still deserve praise for causing quite as much chaos for the Ipswich defence as they did.
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What a waste of money,Dippenhall said:Ipswich starting back line cost £35m.
What a waste of money.4 -
You make an excellent point about the timing of TC and Leaburn’s introduction and their performances need to be analysed in that context. Both did very well but against a tiring defence which as you say was in disarray.Exiled_Addick said:I thought the issue up front, first half, wasn't our inability to press (because we were pressing and Ipswich were just quite good at playing around it, as you would expect of a recently relegated side with plenty of ex Premier League players). More our issue was our passing wasn't sharp or accurate enough and we lacked a hold up man to get on the ball and allow us to get up the pitch a bit. In that regard, Leaburn might have made more of a difference, than TC, as he showed second half how good he is at that when he gets balls into his feet.
Neither Tanto or Kelman had bad games, per say, first half but we didn't give them much to work with in terms of accurate forward passes. Once the midfield started to get to grips with the game that changed and the forward players (all 4 of them) looked better and more involved.
Also worth remembering that by the time TC and Leaburn were on yesterday we were already 2-0 up. Ipswich were both chasing the game and in general disarray at that point which left huge gaping spaces for the two of them to exploit. A luxury our forwards are not often afforded when so many of our games are tight affairs won or lost by the odd goal. They were both bound to look better in those circumstances, although still deserve praise for causing quite as much chaos for the Ipswich defence as they did.1 -
Clarke, young , cajuste, Akpom caused issues 1st half, young was very clever in becoming spare a lot, we seemed to deal with it better after the break. Only Clarke and Cajuste were giving it a go by the end. Was fearing Phillogene and Hirst coming on but we snuffed them out really well.1
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