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Dean Holden - July 2025: now assistant manager at Hull City (p48)

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,719
    Nice bloke. Leading us out at Old Trafford must have been a dream come true
    I hope he gets a good round of applause when he comes to the Valley later in the season. 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,002
    edited June 30
    It feels like every manager we had during our "banter era" has completely fallen off the radar since leaving. Has any of them gone on to achieve even a shred of success? Chris Powell made it into the England setup, which is a respectable move in footballing terms — but what about the rest? I suppose Jacko’s the only other one who’s managed to carve out any sort of name for himself.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,652
    CAFCTrev said:
    It feels like every manager we had during our "banter era" has completely fallen off the radar since leaving. Has any of them gone on to achieve even a shred of success? Chris Powell made it into the England setup, which is a respectable move in footballing terms — but what about the rest? I think Jacko is probably the one who has made a name for himself. 
    Bowyer caught a very big Carp.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034
    I suspect it wasn't a genuine rumour but in my opinion Luke Molyneux would be a decent signing . Quick , left footed with something to prove with a good pedigree having come through the Academy at Sunderland 

    As long as we also take on players experienced at the level he could be a good wildcard signing.
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,292
    Richard J said:
    I suspect it wasn't a genuine rumour but in my opinion Luke Molyneux would be a decent signing . Quick , left footed with something to prove with a good pedigree having come through the Academy at Sunderland 

    As long as we also take on players experienced at the level he could be a good wildcard signing.
    Think you meant this to go on the rumours thread mate? @Richard J

  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034
    Richard J said:
    I suspect it wasn't a genuine rumour but in my opinion Luke Molyneux would be a decent signing . Quick , left footed with something to prove with a good pedigree having come through the Academy at Sunderland 

    As long as we also take on players experienced at the level he could be a good wildcard signing.
    Think you meant this to go on the rumours thread mate? @Richard J

    Yes I did. Sorry
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,956
    Decent bloke, but does seem much more suited to be the "good cop" coach/assistant than the main man. 
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034
    Like others I think he is a better coach than manager 
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,896
    CAFCTrev said:
    It feels like every manager we had during our "banter era" has completely fallen off the radar since leaving. Has any of them gone on to achieve even a shred of success? Chris Powell made it into the England setup, which is a respectable move in footballing terms — but what about the rest? I suppose Jacko’s the only other one who’s managed to carve out any sort of name for himself.
    Loved SCP as a player and a manager at Charlton, and believe there is always a role for him at our club, but he wasn’t part of (a very successful) England set up because of his outstanding coaching skills. That said he played a very important pastoral role as well as a coaching role when it was required.

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    CAFCTrev said:
    It feels like every manager we had during our "banter era" has completely fallen off the radar since leaving. Has any of them gone on to achieve even a shred of success? Chris Powell made it into the England setup, which is a respectable move in footballing terms — but what about the rest? I suppose Jacko’s the only other one who’s managed to carve out any sort of name for himself.

    Karel Fraeye who many felt was a basket case at CAFC went on to great success with Lommel, a 2nd division Belgium side with preventing relegation and then promotion the next season.

    Fraeye torn up the coaching Manual, and just told his players to run around a lot and play with a smile on their faces.

    Many Charlton fans thought he was a Winker.

  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    CAFCTrev said:
    It feels like every manager we had during our "banter era" has completely fallen off the radar since leaving. Has any of them gone on to achieve even a shred of success? Chris Powell made it into the England setup, which is a respectable move in footballing terms — but what about the rest? I think Jacko is probably the one who has made a name for himself. 
    Bowyer caught a very big Carp.

    Nigel Adkins caught a crab.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,087
    CAFCTrev said:
    It feels like every manager we had during our "banter era" has completely fallen off the radar since leaving. Has any of them gone on to achieve even a shred of success? Chris Powell made it into the England setup, which is a respectable move in footballing terms — but what about the rest? I suppose Jacko’s the only other one who’s managed to carve out any sort of name for himself.

    Karel Fraeye who many felt was a basket case at CAFC went on to great success with Lommel, a 2nd division Belgium side with preventing relegation and then promotion the next season.

    Fraeye torn up the coaching Manual, and just told his players to run around a lot and play with a smile on their faces.

    Many Charlton fans thought he was a Winker.

    I don't think that's true, he was only there for 8 months and they were in the second division the whole time. He was sacked with them bottom of the league.
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,933
    Karel Fraeye is the biggest joke in our history 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,087
    Got a lot of time for Holden as a guy , probably a very good coach/No2 just not cut out as a number 1. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,956
    Les Reed for example has had a distinguished career as a coach and technical director, but wasn't cut out to be a manager, 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,722
    CAFCTrev said:
    It feels like every manager we had during our "banter era" has completely fallen off the radar since leaving. Has any of them gone on to achieve even a shred of success? Chris Powell made it into the England setup, which is a respectable move in footballing terms — but what about the rest? I think Jacko is probably the one who has made a name for himself. 
    Bowyer caught a very big Carp.

    Nigel Adkins caught a crab.
    Out walking.
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,649

  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,384
    Well, shit (re Hull financial problems).

    I hope he has some money stored away from his Saudi Arabia jaunt. 

    He is apparently joining for a focus on defense. I'd assumed that meant football defense, but perhaps he has some legal expertise.
  • allez les addicks
    allez les addicks Posts: 1,432
    Looks like he’s gone in as the club’s appointee amongst the manager’s picks on the staff (think of JJ under Robinson / Adkins) - so he’s probably hoping for an interim gig if the manager gets the bullet and the rest of the staff leave with him. 

    One of our more likeable ex managers, but ultimately very out of his depth as a manager

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,956
    Decent bloke, I imagine he's an effective " good cop" coach, but not a manager. Similar to Curtis Fleming I suspect. 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,146
    NabySarr said:
    As you’d expect from him, but a classy touch coming over to clap the away fans before the game yesterday 
    Chants of ‘Deano’ too. Good bloke. I’ve got a lot of time for him. We at least got shades of our identity back with him. 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,054
    NabySarr said:
    As you’d expect from him, but a classy touch coming over to clap the away fans before the game yesterday 
    Chants of ‘Deano’ too. Good bloke. I’ve got a lot of time for him. We at least got shades of our identity back with him. 
    Fully agree 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,341
    Thank God the stupid celebration thing he tried to get us to start up didn't catch on
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,016
    sam3110 said:
    Thank God the stupid celebration thing he tried to get us to start up didn't catch on
    He didn't win enough games for that to stick
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 613
    what celebration thing?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,400
    gringo said:
    what celebration thing?
    The players joining hands in front of the North thing ... Someone had a great gif of it. 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,194



    Home win first game of the season against Orient 🍒