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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Swansea City: Saturday 1st November 2025: KO 15:00
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We just couldn't get into it after they scored and they were lucky not get the winner.One of those days, happy with a point and kelman goal.Hernandez looks rapid and was tracking back and closing down which is a postive!1
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Out of interest, given that Jones was picking a side to win a home game, who would you have not had on the bench to make way for another defender, and who would that have been, thus limiting non defending options off the bench? Have you pointed out his habit as a case for concern before, or just mentioning it now with the benefit of hindsight?fenaddick said:
Two things can be true at once, which is exactly what I said in my original postSword65pf said:
What scuppered us was getting bell injured on top of loosing Edward’s,and then Burke, not the subs bench.fenaddick said:
It left us playing odd formations with players out of position. Our most threatening attacker in the first half ended up playing LWB and was barely seen again. Kayne Ramsay ended up playing LB. I’ll give you that he didn’t have any other senior defenders to put on the bench, but that’s his decision tooswordfish said:
Jones habit of only having one defender on the bench didn't 'scupper us'fenaddick said:As for today’s game, the injuries scuppered us as did NJ’s habit of only having one defender on the bench. TC was dangerous first half but wasted at LWB. Our midfield were outplayed and Ramsay had an off day. Ultimately we did well to escape with a point2 -
Didn’t notice he might of been carrying the injury, thought he done ok in general up to today.LargeAddick said:
Burke seemed to me to be struggling from the off, well off the pace, and was touching his leg for a good ten or so minutes before he finally went down. I'm not convinced by him at all to be honest.Sword65pf said:
We start with 5 defenders with one on the bench, it’s not often you lose two defenders to injury, I’m slightly more concerned Burke wasn’t having a great game and Ramsay still isn’t back to his best, but that’s another conversation.fenaddick said:
Two things can be true at once, which is exactly what I said in my original postSword65pf said:
What scuppered us was getting bell injured on top of loosing Edward’s,and then Burke, not the subs bench.fenaddick said:
It left us playing odd formations with players out of position. Our most threatening attacker in the first half ended up playing LWB and was barely seen again. Kayne Ramsay ended up playing LB. I’ll give you that he didn’t have any other senior defenders to put on the bench, but that’s his decision tooswordfish said:
Jones habit of only having one defender on the bench didn't 'scupper us'fenaddick said:As for today’s game, the injuries scuppered us as did NJ’s habit of only having one defender on the bench. TC was dangerous first half but wasted at LWB. Our midfield were outplayed and Ramsay had an off day. Ultimately we did well to escape with a point0 -
Also thought tc was quality today. We really need to work out (better) how to get him on the ball deep into their half left side every time.11
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I’m just worried about our midfield for Tuesday night, we looked a bit leggy today in that department.2
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first half he was superb, struggled at LWB but that’s understandable2121 said:Also thought tc was quality today. We really need to work out (better) how to get him on the ball deep into their half left side every time.1 -
I do not subscribe to the injuries costing us. I thought the had by far the better midfield, their pass accuracy far better than us, had more of the ball in our third of the pitch, their goal was comming ours against the runof play.
Just lucky they areas bad in the 18 yard area as us.1 -
Happy to take a point and move on. Was impressed with Swansea and thought they looked better than us, so always happy to take something away.
On the slightly concerned point…
1. We seem to be running out of gas a little. We’ve had no midweek game and they played just Wednesday night. Yet they looked fitter and sharper throughout, increasingly in the 2nd half
2. Surprised they are only 16th and won just 4 of their 13 games. We really struggled with the Eom / Galbraith / Franco trio.
3. What has happened with Kane Ramsey? He looks a shell of the player of last season
On the positive side…
1. Kelman goal! Christ he has needed that, let’s hope it’s a springboard
2. We didn’t lose again when we’ve not played well. Losing two players so quickly undoubtedly impacted us, but the team find a way to dig in. I’m still very much looking down not up and all the points gained could be vital come end of season.13 -
It’s definitely been mentioned before and I’ve agreed with it, it certainly wasn’t argued against so much though!!swordfish said:
Out of interest, given that Jones was picking a side to win a home game, who would have not had on the bench to make way for another defender, and who would that have been, thus limiting non defending options off the bench, Have you pointed out his habit as a case for concern before, or just mentioning it now with the benefit of hindsight.fenaddick said:
Two things can be true at once, which is exactly what I said in my original postSword65pf said:
What scuppered us was getting bell injured on top of loosing Edward’s,and then Burke, not the subs bench.fenaddick said:
It left us playing odd formations with players out of position. Our most threatening attacker in the first half ended up playing LWB and was barely seen again. Kayne Ramsay ended up playing LB. I’ll give you that he didn’t have any other senior defenders to put on the bench, but that’s his decision tooswordfish said:
Jones habit of only having one defender on the bench didn't 'scupper us'fenaddick said:As for today’s game, the injuries scuppered us as did NJ’s habit of only having one defender on the bench. TC was dangerous first half but wasted at LWB. Our midfield were outplayed and Ramsay had an off day. Ultimately we did well to escape with a point
I agree there are a lack of options to come in but that’s partly because he hasn’t signed defenders who won’t make the bench. JRC is the obvious player to come out the squad.
Only 3 other Championship teams had only 1 defender on the bench today. It’s an unusual thing to do and I don’t think it’s controversial to point it out1 -
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They were on top even before the injuries2
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He was, by the end, the only player putting any pressure on them at all2121 said:Hernandez looks rapid and was tracking back and closing down which is a postive!3 -
People really are over hyping Galbraith today. He was good but wasn't even Swansea's best player.8
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Agree with this, it’s because we didn’t get him. He was ok was picking up a lot of 2nd balls, but we didn’t compete as well for them today like we usually do.AllHailTheHen said:People really are over hyping Galbraith today. He was good but wasn't even Swansea's best player.1 -
The student outdone the teacher today .. Swansea boss got one over his old boss , completely blocked and outnumbered our mid stopped us moving through there . Plus they also had an extra man in there as well the number 10 who really run the game for them we never really addressed it .. it’s unlucky to lose two defenders in 5 mins and that affected us second half , but we stuck at it .. lovey finish from Kelman from a tight angle .. they were the best side seen at the valley this season so sometime you take the point … I am concerned that NJ does not have a plan B when someone clearly knows everything about the way he plays
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Felt we should of kept on kelman . Thought doc was poor tbh dosent do enough for me .
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Galbraith was pukka. There is no denying it. Nothing to do with us not getting him. Very clever player.
Coventry brilliant for us today especially stopping that breakaway in the 1st half. Another point on the board and hopefully 3 more come Tuesday evening.5 -
We’re 8th in a crazy and unpredictable league with teams being hit for 3, 4 and 5 goals by teams below them.
There is no team going going to run away with it and we are up in the mix. I still think we will end up lower mid table and would absolutely take that. We just need to keep moving away from the bottom whilst keeping an optimistic eye above us.
We are seriously over performing, hence the disappointment of a result and performance like today.
But we didn’t lose and it’s another point.Going to be a test going forwards with Edwards, Bell and Burke out but Jones will deal with it.8 -
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Point gained really. I don’t think we deserved anything from that. Our worst home performance for a long time unfortunately but as ever they don’t give up.If Bell is joining Edwards long term then we’re in trouble on the left.The big positive of the day is obviously Kelman getting off the mark - hopefully he kicks on now without that monkey on his back. Thought it was a better finish than it looked, the little jump to get over the ball and keep it down was very good.Could be worse, we could have been playing in the first round of the FA Cup…
Onwards, UTA!9 -
Not at the races today so all in all it’s a decent point.
will NJ start Fullah on Tuesday ? I’m hoping so0 -
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Frustrating, no doubt, but it’s November and we’re 8th. I’d definitely have taken that at the start of the season.9
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If we were over performing I’d say we’d have more points, I think we are a good side with a bit of momentum competing at the level. Today wasn’t our best we got a point. I would suggest Swansea have been under performing based on what I witnessed today.sirjohnhumphrey said:We’re 8th in a crazy and unpredictable league with teams being hit for 3, 4 and 5 goals by teams below them.
There is no team going going to run away with it and we are up in the mix. I still think we will end up lower mid table and would absolutely take that. We just need to keep moving away from the bottom whilst keeping an optimistic eye above us.
We are seriously over performing, hence the disappointment of a result and performance like today.
But we didn’t lose and it’s another point.Going to be a test going forwards with Edwards, Bell and Burke out but Jones will deal with it.1 -
“Seriously over performing”…….what the hell are you on about, care to explain?sirjohnhumphrey said:We’re 8th in a crazy and unpredictable league with teams being hit for 3, 4 and 5 goals by teams below them.
There is no team going going to run away with it and we are up in the mix. I still think we will end up lower mid table and would absolutely take that. We just need to keep moving away from the bottom whilst keeping an optimistic eye above us.
We are seriously over performing, hence the disappointment of a result and performance like today.
But we didn’t lose and it’s another point.Going to be a test going forwards with Edwards, Bell and Burke out but Jones will deal with it.5 -
Indeed, bizarre!!SoundAsa£ said:
“Seriously over performing”…….what the hell are you on about, care to explain?sirjohnhumphrey said:We’re 8th in a crazy and unpredictable league with teams being hit for 3, 4 and 5 goals by teams below them.
There is no team going going to run away with it and we are up in the mix. I still think we will end up lower mid table and would absolutely take that. We just need to keep moving away from the bottom whilst keeping an optimistic eye above us.
We are seriously over performing, hence the disappointment of a result and performance like today.
But we didn’t lose and it’s another point.Going to be a test going forwards with Edwards, Bell and Burke out but Jones will deal with it.0 -
Dreadful - but we said last year we were losing to Crawley .. so onwards and upwards1
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Unless you expected us to be performing to be in 8th in the league (which I doubt very many did) at this point, we're over-performing.18
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The point is nobody knew how we were going to do, so it’s only over performing if you thought we would struggle, I didn’t and I’m not overly surprised we are where we are, it’s not like a promoted side has never stepped up before. We are 8th on merit and could have been higher.WSS said:Unless you expected us to be performing to be in 8th in the league (which I doubt very many did) at this point, we're over-performing.5
