Big Screen /scoreboard

• Richard Murray joined the board in the early 1990s and was instrumental in the club's successful campaign to return to The Valley in December 1992, after a period of exile.
• Club Ownership: He became the chairman in 1995 and eventually completed a share buy-out to take full control of the club in 2010. During his tenure as owner/chairman, the club spent around £35 million on developing the stadium.

Kap10 said:

jose said:

I wonder if the match officials can demand the distraction is turned off if they want it to happen.
Somewhere in the mush of my brain I remember either substitutes or stewards had to change their attire.

Years ago, in the Prem, there was a Dutch band playing pre kick off and they carried on into the first half. The referee asked the club to get them to stop.

Re the screen itself, unlike the previous screen, I can read the team names from Upper West in line with the half way line, however Why does the clock counter have to be so large, it's nit picking but one of those things that really irritates me. 

TootingRedArmy said:

I didn't draw comparisons with Murray era?
but don't think he did that badly with Curbs at  the helm? 

• Richard Murray joined the board in the early 1990s and was instrumental in the club's successful campaign to return to The Valley in December 1992, after a period of exile.
• Club Ownership: He became the chairman in 1995 and eventually completed a share buy-out to take full control of the club in 2010. During his tenure as owner/chairman, the club spent around £35 million on developing the stadium.

Of course what goes on the pitch is first and foremost for all supporters?
But we have a long checkered time with our owners why back to Gilkenson families cronic under investment, we all know our history, the head is disconjected from the body thanks to Roland the Rat. Once we have ownership of our stadium, training ground + team under one owner then i think we will truly have our Charlton back. Whilst the Belguim has ownership we can never fully realise our clubs full potential. 
 

Rothko said:

2121 said:

In summary,
1 reduce brightness genrally
2 re format existing videos
3 reduce brightness or re align east stand flood lights. 

3 you can't do, they are preset to certain areas of the pitch and will be set to a certain level to meet Championship regs

bobmunro said:

TootingRedArmy said:

bobmunro said:

TootingRedArmy said:

jose said:

It seems to be, judging by the comments here, that the distraction element of all the coloured advertisements is different according to where you sit.
When we went to Wimbledon before (Ryan Innes) the low level lighting was not only a distraction, but washed out sight of the play below about knee height. At the time I was glad it wasn’t at the Valley, yet here we are, not only having the football washed out at low level, but everywhere from where I sit in the Curbs stand.
I doubt very much if the system has been road tested from a spectators point of view, but tested by the geeks from a technical point of view.
There are solutions. Turn the stuff off is one, or dim the brightness considerably is another, or turn off/dim where the worst effects of the distractions occur.
I still believe there exists in some quarters distain from the club towards the ordinary fan, from very poor information and poor timing about U21 matches, very very poor coverage and information regarding the academy despite Valley Gold, very poor preparation for feeds or broadcasts which go wrong a lot accompanied by weasel apologies, the terrible communication and events around the Millwall match, and the casual attitude towards food and drink served around the ground (of which there has reportedly been some improvement), turnstiles not fully operational. Training and preparation of stewarding.
In my view there are several areas that can be improved, but I am not confident it will ever happen.

TOOTING RED ARMY : 

I completely agree first and foremost, we as supporters are customers, yet like too many modern businesses, we seem to be the last people the club is concerned about.

What we’re seeing now feels like a mix of complacency and carelessness from those running day-to-day operations at Charlton. From the ticket fiascos at play off SF & Final and Millwall, to the poor food & drinks service  and indifferent stewarding, there’s a real sense that standards have slipped  and nobody seems to care enough to fix them.

Take the new electronic advertising boards as the latest example. You’d expect a professional club to have tested them properly before a live match to have staff sit in various parts of the ground during lets say an academy training game to see how the boards affect sightlines and match enjoyment. But clearly, that kind of basic due diligence didn’t happen.

There’s an underlying lack of professionalism and respect for fans that runs from the top down. Communication from the club feels dismissive, and feedback whether through the Fan Forum or surveys goes unanswered or ignored. It’s as if those in charge have forgotten that without the supporters, there is no club.

There used to be pride in how Charlton treated its fans. You can’t help thinking that if someone like Rick Everitt if he was still overseeing comms and some of operation duties  at The Valley, this level of incompetence and disregard wouldn’t be tolerated. It needs someone high up to sort this out or get the Welsh dragon Nathan Jones, perhaps to get to grips with what’s going wrong and remind staff what this club stands for.

Because right now, it feels like us mere fans are an afterthought, when they should be at the heart of everything Charlton does.

The feedback on this thread is mixed - some feel the boards are too bright and distracting, while others say the ground looks the best it has for years. You can please some of the people ....

There is more investment in the club now than there has been since Murray gave Dowie a fortune to spunk - the owners are investing serious money, and trying to increase commercial revenue has the effect of providing funds for the team. Personally I can live with the bright lights if it means we are more competitive on the pitch. Like it or not, we are not a charity but a commercial organisation, but our roots in the community are still something for which we should be immensely proud.

Also - maybe I'm getting forgetful in my old age but could you explain how the way the fans were treated back in the period to which you refer was significantly better or different than now - examples please, not just because it was!

The investment to the Valley isn't that big a spend, a lick of paint, some safety railings, new screen & ED boards, fan bar etc superficially its very noticeable eye catching changes like buying a really expensive item of clothing, a new haircut, losing weight you'll generate remarks ........however not to be a damper on "The Las Vegas of South London" butttttttttt our new owners needs to show their committment to "Project Charlton" by buying the Valley + Sparrows Lane this is a real sign their here to stay and want to get Charlton back into prem and we get back to being No 1 club in South London, look at where Palace are now compared to us, its very bright over in Croydon! 

If you want to see how our fan base have been treated by owners and internal staff read no further than the thread after Millwall game, its a very long read so settle down for a few hours but you'll get a pretty clear idea how there is still significant room for improvement from the club to its fan base. 

Don't get me wrong I'm pleased Valley is looking smarter and BRIGHTER but don't be dazzled by a make over, that old Belguim whore is still prowling around in the shadows and we have a long way to go to get our Charlton truly back. 

I, like every Charlton fan, want the club and The Valley reunited in ownership. Why don't you have a word with the yellow-teethed one and get him to lower the price to a realistic level.

Trust me, I've read the Millwall thread, and I agree that comms were sorely ineffective and the gate 21 incident could/should have been avoided. The decision by the Police to re-route home fans was outwith the control of the Club - pure and simple. 

I'll ask the question again but on the specific that you've re-raised. How differently do you believe the Club under Murray would have handled the Millwall game? How would fan engagement have been better? Evidence would be good as well because I can't remember being more engaged and consulted back then - it was then as it is now for the overwhelming majority of fans - results on the pitch that really matter.

O-Randy-Hunt said:

I dread to think how distracted some of you would be driving along some of the roads with big flashy billboards 😬

TootingRedArmy said:

stevexreeve said:

O-Randy-Hunt said:

I dread to think how distracted some of you would be driving along some of the roads with big flashy billboards 😬

But you don't get strips of advertising with animations around the inside of roundabouts or along the sides of motorways! 

Moving images behind something you are trying to concentrate on are not a good. Idea!

This isn't a good comparison when for example you drive out on flyover to M4 with the all singing and dancing billboards, you drive past at 30 - 40mphs they are obviously positioned on left and right of the road  higher than sightline of driving. 

The electronic boards (ED) if sat in middle rows of East stand are fully in your vision, the ED which is facing inwards at pitch side is very intrusive then you have two further glaring billboards which spoil watching the players particuarly when on far side of the pitch close to West Stand. 
Hopefully the dimmer switch will be applied tonight or its dark glasses 

Its interesting how these invasive boards are just placed around football stadium without any thought given to how it may affect the fans : customer experience... imagine going to the threatre, concert, cinema and have Electronic board with flashing joseph and his technicoloured dreamcoat of neon in front of your eyes during a show?