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Asian footballers

Zulu
Zulu Posts: 201
edited November 6 in General Charlton

I have been really impressed by the increasing number of Asian players in the Championship this season, they all seem to be very technically gifted and scoring some fantastic goals and able to cope with the physicality of the Championship.

Sakamoto,Iwate,Paik,Saito,Seung-Ho,Eom have all been very impressive. I wonder what our supposed foray into the Japanese market will bring come Jan (is it Fukada?).

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  • closet_addick
    closet_addick Posts: 209
    They are indeed breeding some very good footballers out East these days. 
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 388
    edited November 6
    Japan and South Korea have always punched quite well above their weight in international football. Is it brexit and work permit rules meaning more have come over here? 

    Before the (slightly racist) assumption was they wouldn’t cope with the physicality of English football, which is a load of rubbish, clearly. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,228
    Imagine it'll only improve as well

    Clubs are seeing that the players from the J-League etc. can hold their own over here, and could possibly be a tad cheaper as an option compared to buying individuals from Europe. So why not send scouts over there...Take Portsmouth as another example who are looking at the A-League for gems of late.

    We must have been one of the fewest teams in the Championship to solely focus on players already based here England in the summer, but then I wonder if we did that to avoid taking needless risks, and is a strategy approach we'll see with our business, as we look to build on our Championship status over the coming seasons
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 757
    Navid was pretty handy too
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,305
    The Japanese guy who used to play for Celtic Nakamura 

    Them getting a free kick within 35 yards of the goal was like getting a penalty, his ball striking was beautiful 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,305
    I meant to add, language will be a huge factor in the relatively few Japanese and South Korean players recruited. Zheng Zhi had to have a translator follow him like a shadow when he played for us 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,415
    North Korea took part in the 1966 World Cup in England. They lost to the Soviet Union, then drew with Chile 1-1 and beat Italy 1-0 (absolute upset of course)
    I don't know if they were the first Asian team to play in the World Cup, but 1966 was the first time that an Asian team got to the quarter finals
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,856
    Totally agree.  The only ones that didn’t impress were the two that played for Blackburn but other than that the Japanese and Korean players have been superb. 
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,054
    Diebythesword said:
    Japan and South Korea have always punched quite well above their weight in international football. Is it brexit and work permit rules meaning more have come over here? 

    Before the (slightly racist) assumption was they wouldn’t cope with the physicality of English football, which is a load of rubbish, clearly. 
    I dunno if two highly economically developed countries with populations of 120m+ and 50m+ respectively (or thereabouts) can ever really be too much of an underdog, no matter what sport they're competing in. Yes they don't have footballing heritage in the same way European and South American nations do, but their success shouldn't really be a massive surprise. The 2002 World Cup was 23 years ago now.
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 895
    Diebythesword said:
    Japan and South Korea have always punched quite well above their weight in international football. Is it brexit and work permit rules meaning more have come over here? 

    Before the (slightly racist) assumption was they wouldn’t cope with the physicality of English football, which is a load of rubbish, clearly. 
    I think there was probably some truth to that in the 90s when physicality was a byword for getting kicked lumps out of, even then there were a few sta douts in late 90s/early 00s.

    Now the game has grown internationally and in the UK the tactical side of the game has evolved where physicality (and from a physical sense the UK is still the most difficult league in the world) now means rlite stamina, speed and playing at tempo with endurance, its makes sense that we are getting a more diverse playing pool of talent. After all in global sports like boxing you get elite level athletes from all over the world.

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  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 895
    Zulu said:

    I have been really impressed by the increasing number of Asian players in the Championship this season, they all seem to be very technically gifted and scoring some fantastic goals and able to cope with the physicality of the Championship.

    Sakamoto,Iwate,Paik,Saito,Seung-Ho,Eom have all been very impressive. I wonder what our supposed foray into the Japanese market will bring come Jan (is it Fukada?).

    I really hope we sign Fukada mainly as im intrigued to see how good he is if we have been scouting him this long but also so we can all have fun with the name and the amount of Kenneth Williams faces we will see on here
  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,075
    Japanese players tended to play and excel in Germany so don’t think physicality was ever a problem. Has been a bit of an untapped market here until now

  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 895
    follett said:
    Japanese players tended to play and excel in Germany so don’t think physicality was ever a problem. Has been a bit of an untapped market here until now

    When ? As in what era did thsy start doing well in Germany?
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 895
    PaddyP17 said:
    Diebythesword said:
    Japan and South Korea have always punched quite well above their weight in international football. Is it brexit and work permit rules meaning more have come over here? 

    Before the (slightly racist) assumption was they wouldn’t cope with the physicality of English football, which is a load of rubbish, clearly. 
    I dunno if two highly economically developed countries with populations of 120m+ and 50m+ respectively (or thereabouts) can ever really be too much of an underdog, no matter what sport they're competing in. Yes they don't have footballing heritage in the same way European and South American nations do, but their success shouldn't really be a massive surprise. The 2002 World Cup was 23 years ago now.
    I was 12 for that world cup and its the first one I remember watching all the games, probably nostalgia but it still sticks out in my mind as one of the best.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,143
    PaddyP17 said:
    Diebythesword said:
    Japan and South Korea have always punched quite well above their weight in international football. Is it brexit and work permit rules meaning more have come over here? 

    Before the (slightly racist) assumption was they wouldn’t cope with the physicality of English football, which is a load of rubbish, clearly. 
    I dunno if two highly economically developed countries with populations of 120m+ and 50m+ respectively (or thereabouts) can ever really be too much of an underdog, no matter what sport they're competing in. Yes they don't have footballing heritage in the same way European and South American nations do, but their success shouldn't really be a massive surprise. The 2002 World Cup was 23 years ago now.
    What's interesting is how badly China are performing when you factor in their sports drive for the 2008 Olympics. Football took off massively in South Korea with the '02 world cup.

    Football is the second most popular sport in Japan, but a young up and comer in a more traditional sport may push it back to third.  ;)
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,336
    Radostanradical said:
    Zulu said:

    I have been really impressed by the increasing number of Asian players in the Championship this season, they all seem to be very technically gifted and scoring some fantastic goals and able to cope with the physicality of the Championship.

    Sakamoto,Iwate,Paik,Saito,Seung-Ho,Eom have all been very impressive. I wonder what our supposed foray into the Japanese market will bring come Jan (is it Fukada?).

    I really hope we sign Fukada mainly as im intrigued to see how good he is if we have been scouting him this long but also so we can all have fun with the name and the amount of Kenneth Williams faces we will see on here
    I've watched him live via fawanews for a half or so and can tell you now he's rubbish, and I just know next to nothing about football. Seriously, lightweight.
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 895
    edited November 7
    swords_alive said:
    Radostanradical said:
    Zulu said:

    I have been really impressed by the increasing number of Asian players in the Championship this season, they all seem to be very technically gifted and scoring some fantastic goals and able to cope with the physicality of the Championship.

    Sakamoto,Iwate,Paik,Saito,Seung-Ho,Eom have all been very impressive. I wonder what our supposed foray into the Japanese market will bring come Jan (is it Fukada?).

    I really hope we sign Fukada mainly as im intrigued to see how good he is if we have been scouting him this long but also so we can all have fun with the name and the amount of Kenneth Williams faces we will see on here
    I've watched him live via fawanews for a half or so and can tell you now he's rubbish, and I just know next to nothing about football. Seriously, lightweight.
    Ok but we can still make jokes about the name right ?!!
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,890
    No Asians thank you.

  • jose
    jose Posts: 742
    edited November 7
    Can’t be watched unless you ‘sign in to confirm you’re not a bot’.
    Lots of stuff is like that these days.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,054
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    Diebythesword said:
    Japan and South Korea have always punched quite well above their weight in international football. Is it brexit and work permit rules meaning more have come over here? 

    Before the (slightly racist) assumption was they wouldn’t cope with the physicality of English football, which is a load of rubbish, clearly. 
    I dunno if two highly economically developed countries with populations of 120m+ and 50m+ respectively (or thereabouts) can ever really be too much of an underdog, no matter what sport they're competing in. Yes they don't have footballing heritage in the same way European and South American nations do, but their success shouldn't really be a massive surprise. The 2002 World Cup was 23 years ago now.
    What's interesting is how badly China are performing when you factor in their sports drive for the 2008 Olympics. Football took off massively in South Korea with the '02 world cup.

    Football is the second most popular sport in Japan, but a young up and comer in a more traditional sport may push it back to third.  ;)
    I don't think China ever has had a footballing mindset properly. The biggest sports there all have massive state-funded programmes - table tennis, badminton, diving et al.

    Despite it being one of the most popular spectator sports alongside basketball, the infrastructure at grassroots level simply is not there to cultivate a decent footballing populace. Or, indeed, any particularly large team sports imo. And culturally as a nation, sport takes a bit of a back seat, for numerous reasons. 

    (NB I am half-Chinese hence the fairly confidently espoused comments)

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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,398
    Lincsaddick said:
    North Korea took part in the 1966 World Cup in England. They lost to the Soviet Union, then drew with Chile 1-1 and beat Italy 1-0 (absolute upset of course)
    I don't know if they were the first Asian team to play in the World Cup, but 1966 was the first time that an Asian team got to the quarter finals
    An Asian team has qualified for the World Cup 42 times, since the first time, in 1938 (twelve years before the first of England's sixteen participations). 

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