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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,594
    Yeah they’re all u18s, as are Washington-Amoah and Tagoe.

    The u21 squad is stretched with their own injuries, the first team injuries and the many players out on loan.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,277
    Cardiff 1-0 up 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,277
    Still 1-0 at HT
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,484
    2-0. Troy Perret again. Kid’s flying.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,277
    3-0
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,277
    FT 3-0 loss for a very young side
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,388
    Shame that the injuries for the first team have a knock on effect on the U21s but it is a development squad and some of the subs, presumably U18s, will be buzzing to have made the U21 team.
  • No Reid.  With the first team squad or injured?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,277
    No Reid.  With the first team squad or injured?
    Good spot, no one noticed an injury last time so hopefully with the first team. Wonder if they're staying in the Midlands with an extended group
  • OhMyGodden
    OhMyGodden Posts: 291
    No Reid.  With the first team squad or injured?
    Sutton playing in the National League Cup tonight 

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,277
    No Reid.  With the first team squad or injured?
    Sutton playing in the National League Cup tonight 
    Different Reid, AC is talking about Reuben not Tommy
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,594
    I could see Reuben Reid being one of the next in line so hopefully he’s with the first team and not injured.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 306
    A bit worrying people trying to pluck players out of the U21’s to put into the 1st team.wasnt long ago we were discussing when all our signings would get a chance
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,277
    Sword65pf said:
    A bit worrying people trying to pluck players out of the U21’s to put into the 1st team.wasnt long ago we were discussing when all our signings would get a chance
    Don’t think anyone is doing that (bar one poster suggesting Enslin might be worth a go), just pointing out when someone is missing that they might be with the first team 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 306
    fenaddick said:
    Sword65pf said:
    A bit worrying people trying to pluck players out of the U21’s to put into the 1st team.wasnt long ago we were discussing when all our signings would get a chance
    Don’t think anyone is doing that (bar one poster suggesting Enslin might be worth a go), just pointing out when someone is missing that they might be with the first team 
    Our fans are always guilty of thinking our academy players are the next big thing. Wasn’t looking for argument, my point was more that we all thought our squad was pretty full not so long ago, with the exception of a couple of positions that are now biting us ironically. Although I don’t see any of our young ones being at the level required yet.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,594
    edited November 25
    Sword65pf said:
    A bit worrying people trying to pluck players out of the U21’s to put into the 1st team.wasnt long ago we were discussing when all our signings would get a chance
    The first team usually has one or two players who don’t make the bench with them, hopefully it’s why R Reid didn’t play today, rather than an injury or another reason. Ideally we’ll have players back from injury and he won’t be on the bench or even with the first team.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 306
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    A bit worrying people trying to pluck players out of the U21’s to put into the 1st team.wasnt long ago we were discussing when all our signings would get a chance
    The first team usually has one or two players who don’t make the bench with them, hopefully it’s why R Reid didn’t play today, rather than an injury or another reason. Ideally we’ll have players back from injury and he won’t be on the bench or even with the first team.
    Yes we need a chink of light on the injuries, by all means if the young’uns are good enough put them in,there’s nothing better to see, but I don’t think we are there yet.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,594
    Sword65pf said:
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    A bit worrying people trying to pluck players out of the U21’s to put into the 1st team.wasnt long ago we were discussing when all our signings would get a chance
    The first team usually has one or two players who don’t make the bench with them, hopefully it’s why R Reid didn’t play today, rather than an injury or another reason. Ideally we’ll have players back from injury and he won’t be on the bench or even with the first team.
    Yes we need a chink of light on the injuries, by all means if the young’uns are good enough put them in,there’s nothing better to see, but I don’t think we are there yet.
    No I agree, Fullah is the only one I’d have on the bench if everyone was fit. And even then, that would be debatable as it would mean leaving out a senior player.

    Reid is one to look out for over the next few years though.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 306
    edited November 25
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    A bit worrying people trying to pluck players out of the U21’s to put into the 1st team.wasnt long ago we were discussing when all our signings would get a chance
    The first team usually has one or two players who don’t make the bench with them, hopefully it’s why R Reid didn’t play today, rather than an injury or another reason. Ideally we’ll have players back from injury and he won’t be on the bench or even with the first team.
    Yes we need a chink of light on the injuries, by all means if the young’uns are good enough put them in,there’s nothing better to see, but I don’t think we are there yet.
    No I agree, Fullah is the only one I’d have on the bench if everyone was fit. And even then, that would be debatable as it would mean leaving out a senior player.

    Reid is one to look out for over the next few years though.
    Generally at U21 age if they are good enough they get a chance and then become starters as the good ones can’t be held back, I know NJ suggested it with Fullah but he showed he wasn’t quite there as a starter against Wrexham, I know it was only one game, but he was chalk and cheese from the subs impact the game before.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 766
    One thing to consider about players that come through the academy is how they might compare to players already here, and crucially in my view, potential new signings.

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,594
    Sword65pf said:
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    A bit worrying people trying to pluck players out of the U21’s to put into the 1st team.wasnt long ago we were discussing when all our signings would get a chance
    The first team usually has one or two players who don’t make the bench with them, hopefully it’s why R Reid didn’t play today, rather than an injury or another reason. Ideally we’ll have players back from injury and he won’t be on the bench or even with the first team.
    Yes we need a chink of light on the injuries, by all means if the young’uns are good enough put them in,there’s nothing better to see, but I don’t think we are there yet.
    No I agree, Fullah is the only one I’d have on the bench if everyone was fit. And even then, that would be debatable as it would mean leaving out a senior player.

    Reid is one to look out for over the next few years though.
    Generally at U21 age if they are good enough they get a chance and then become starters as the good ones can’t be held back, I know NJ suggested it with Fullah but he showed he wasn’t quite there as a starter against Wrexham, I know it was only one game, but he was chalk and cheese from the subs impact the game before.
    That happens though, it doesn’t mean NJ is wrong about Fullah.

    Solly, Aribo and Grant are three examples of players off the top of my head who took time to properly settle into the first team and become regulars.

    Konsa didn’t fully convince our fans while in L1 but after 1 year in the Championship with Brentford he moved to the PL. Pope was another not rated that highly while he was here.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 306
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    A bit worrying people trying to pluck players out of the U21’s to put into the 1st team.wasnt long ago we were discussing when all our signings would get a chance
    The first team usually has one or two players who don’t make the bench with them, hopefully it’s why R Reid didn’t play today, rather than an injury or another reason. Ideally we’ll have players back from injury and he won’t be on the bench or even with the first team.
    Yes we need a chink of light on the injuries, by all means if the young’uns are good enough put them in,there’s nothing better to see, but I don’t think we are there yet.
    No I agree, Fullah is the only one I’d have on the bench if everyone was fit. And even then, that would be debatable as it would mean leaving out a senior player.

    Reid is one to look out for over the next few years though.
    Generally at U21 age if they are good enough they get a chance and then become starters as the good ones can’t be held back, I know NJ suggested it with Fullah but he showed he wasn’t quite there as a starter against Wrexham, I know it was only one game, but he was chalk and cheese from the subs impact the game before.
    That happens though, it doesn’t mean NJ is wrong about Fullah.

    Solly, Aribo and Grant are three examples of players off the top of my head who took time to properly settle into the first team and become regulars.

    Konsa didn’t fully convince our fans while in L1 but after 1 year in the Championship with Brentford he moved to the PL. Pope was another not rated that highly while he was here.
    I think how well the 1st team are doing has a big bearing on how they look, it’s not so easy coming into a struggling/ injury hit team, rather than one riding high and confident. Basically timing is really important.
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,030
    edited November 25
    LCB and LWB lack of cover was highlighted by most fans and this was before we found Bell wasn't a donkey as Luton fans had told us. Only four left footers in the entire squad. Lack of minutes for Enslin is baffling. 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 306
    LCB and LWB lack of cover was highlighted by most fans and this was before we found Bell wasn't a donkey as Luton fans had told us. Only four left footers in the entire squad. Lack of minutes for Enslin is baffling. 
    Surely if he’s ready he’d be on the bench at least?