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Why does T.Campbell keep getting selected
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Tanto sort of played the TC role against Ipswich but a little more centrally, his only other league start was up top against Wrexham. I haven't actually checked back to see what happed on his sub appearances because it would take ages but given it was usually him + 1 striker replacing TC + 1 striker I'd hazard a guess he was playing the wide forward rolearny23394 said:I got lots of lols before the season started for saying he isn’t good enough to be starting week in week out in the championship - you only needed to look at his numbers in the league below last season to know he won’t be contributing many goals/assists this season.I’d like to see Olaofe start in his position, which I don’t think has happened yet this season, pretty sure he’s only started through the middle?2 -
Yeah, he’s played there coming off the bench but couldn’t remember him playing that role from the start, but you’re right, he started there against Ipswich.fenaddick said:
Tanto sort of played the TC role against Ipswich but a little more centrally, his only other league start was up top against Wrexham. I haven't actually checked back to see what happed on his sub appearances because it would take ages but given it was usually him + 1 striker replacing TC + 1 striker I'd hazard a guess he was playing the wide forward rolearny23394 said:I got lots of lols before the season started for saying he isn’t good enough to be starting week in week out in the championship - you only needed to look at his numbers in the league below last season to know he won’t be contributing many goals/assists this season.I’d like to see Olaofe start in his position, which I don’t think has happened yet this season, pretty sure he’s only started through the middle?0 -
I don’t think Tanto is fit enough to start there. It’s a demanding role and Tanto looks knackered anytime he’s had to play more than half a gamearny23394 said:I got lots of lols before the season started for saying he isn’t good enough to be starting week in week out in the championship - you only needed to look at his numbers in the league below last season to know he won’t be contributing many goals/assists this season.I’d like to see Olaofe start in his position, which I don’t think has happened yet this season, pretty sure he’s only started through the middle?
When TC plays it he’s sometimes being asked to press the CB with our other striker when we press high but then also track the opposition full back once the opposition pass our first line of the press. It’s a lot of workAlong with being probably our most creative player from open play, the fact TC can run nearly all game at a good intensity is why he is a favourite of Jones. Tanto just doesn’t look like he can do the same for even 60 minutes5 -
Started on the left against Ipswich and missed a sitter, theres definitely an argument to drop TC based on his limited output this season the problem is it’s not like Tanto has set the world alight. Both players look much better off the bench instead of starting which is an issuearny23394 said:I got lots of lols before the season started for saying he isn’t good enough to be starting week in week out in the championship - you only needed to look at his numbers in the league below last season to know he won’t be contributing many goals/assists this season.I’d like to see Olaofe start in his position, which I don’t think has happened yet this season, pretty sure he’s only started through the middle?1 -
Sigh. This has been answered enough already above. Have you seen anything from Oloafe, Apter or Knibbs which might make you think they would be an upgrade on TC? Because if you have you are in a minority I think.Lincsaddick said:Campbell i m o has not improved since he's been a regular, there's still the hope that he will learn to look up and how to make a telling pass. However right now he's contributing very little.
The Championship demands a lot more from every player than does League 1.
Comments like 'he's still to find his feet', 'he's still young' etc. are all very well but there is little time as far as we are concerned, for youngsters to 'find their feet' or 'learn their trade' . Right now Campbell is a luxury we can no longer afford
Of course we could find better players in his position, but sadly not from our reserves. When he and Kelman were up top we were in the top 6 in the division. Our recent defeats have nothing to do with TC, he is being made a scapegoat for the lack of depth on defence.7 -
Pretty sure if Apter played as many minutes and played in same position as TC, his numbers would be far higher. But we will never find out.Southbank said:
Sigh. This has been answered enough already above. Have you seen anything from Oloafe, Apter or Knibbs which might make you think they would be an upgrade on TC? Because if you have you are in a minority I think.Lincsaddick said:Campbell i m o has not improved since he's been a regular, there's still the hope that he will learn to look up and how to make a telling pass. However right now he's contributing very little.
The Championship demands a lot more from every player than does League 1.
Comments like 'he's still to find his feet', 'he's still young' etc. are all very well but there is little time as far as we are concerned, for youngsters to 'find their feet' or 'learn their trade' . Right now Campbell is a luxury we can no longer afford
Of course we could find better players in his position, but sadly not from our reserves. When he and Kelman were up top we were in the top 6 in the division. Our recent defeats have nothing to do with TC, he is being made a scapegoat for the lack of depth on defence.3 -
I like TC but think it's time for Apter to be given a go as an attacking unit - definitely not as a wing back.3
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Its all a game of opinions but for however many weaknesses TC has (and admitted, he was quiet at Stoke and generally struggles with the simple stuff), most week's he impacts the game and teams double or triple up on him. We will not be stronger without him, that's for sure.5
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Apter looks lightweight in this division, he does not have the upper body strength to hold off defenders. TC does, even when double marked. I am sure NJ would play Apter if he thought it would make a difference.Willo said:
Pretty sure if Apter played as many minutes and played in same position as TC, his numbers would be far higher. But we will never find out.Southbank said:
Sigh. This has been answered enough already above. Have you seen anything from Oloafe, Apter or Knibbs which might make you think they would be an upgrade on TC? Because if you have you are in a minority I think.Lincsaddick said:Campbell i m o has not improved since he's been a regular, there's still the hope that he will learn to look up and how to make a telling pass. However right now he's contributing very little.
The Championship demands a lot more from every player than does League 1.
Comments like 'he's still to find his feet', 'he's still young' etc. are all very well but there is little time as far as we are concerned, for youngsters to 'find their feet' or 'learn their trade' . Right now Campbell is a luxury we can no longer afford
Of course we could find better players in his position, but sadly not from our reserves. When he and Kelman were up top we were in the top 6 in the division. Our recent defeats have nothing to do with TC, he is being made a scapegoat for the lack of depth on defence.
If we had a wingback like Small, who is strong, we may be able to use Apter on the other side. But we don't.5 -
Yes it a game of opinions, however I dont get how some people are 100% sure we wont be better.DOUCHER said:Its all a game of opinions but for however many weaknesses TC has (and admitted, he was quiet at Stoke and generally struggles with the simple stuff), most week's he impacts the game and teams double or triple up on him. We will not be stronger without him, that's for sure.
We have never had the chance to find out.
lets try it especilly against Coventry nothing to loose, only the 3 points and most think we will get beat anyway.
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Apter is only good on the right. At the moment we have no fit LWB so therefore no threat on that side if you take TC out of the team. We basically have to play TC or we will be so easy to defend against as the opposition would be able to pretty much ignore that side.Willo said:
Pretty sure if Apter played as many minutes and played in same position as TC, his numbers would be far higher. But we will never find out.Southbank said:
Sigh. This has been answered enough already above. Have you seen anything from Oloafe, Apter or Knibbs which might make you think they would be an upgrade on TC? Because if you have you are in a minority I think.Lincsaddick said:Campbell i m o has not improved since he's been a regular, there's still the hope that he will learn to look up and how to make a telling pass. However right now he's contributing very little.
The Championship demands a lot more from every player than does League 1.
Comments like 'he's still to find his feet', 'he's still young' etc. are all very well but there is little time as far as we are concerned, for youngsters to 'find their feet' or 'learn their trade' . Right now Campbell is a luxury we can no longer afford
Of course we could find better players in his position, but sadly not from our reserves. When he and Kelman were up top we were in the top 6 in the division. Our recent defeats have nothing to do with TC, he is being made a scapegoat for the lack of depth on defence.
There’s definitely an argument that we should be playing both TC and Apter at the moment, with one on each flank. But I’m not sure Jones trusts that it won’t leave us too open defensively if we do that1 -
If you’re going to use Apter it has to be on the right of a 3 up top, asking him to do the TC role in terms of the amount of running, shifting between two positions, playing central at times with his back to goal is basically shoehorning him into an unusual role. Same thing as playing TC LWB or Apter in a RWB role (where defending is first priority) it just wouldn’t work. Like Apter but he’s a one position player similar to JRS a few years back when we tried him as a CAM/ST but just looked absolutely useless compared to out wide.1
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Agree with this, but Apter is also fine at wing back when we have the rest of our shape with proper players in. We saw that in August he can do it if the rest of the pieces are in place. If Edwards hadn’t have got injured we’d probably have seen him a bit moreCrispywood said:If you’re going to use Apter it has to be on the right of a 3 up top, asking him to do the TC role in terms of the amount of running, shifting between two positions, playing central at times with his back to goal is basically shoehorning him into an unusual role. Same thing as playing TC LWB or Apter in a RWB role (where defending is first priority) it just wouldn’t work. Like Apter but he’s a one position player similar to JRS a few years back when we tried him as a CAM/ST but just looked absolutely useless compared to out wide.5 -
Why do we have to have a villain every season instead of getting behind them? TC has had some good games, and some bad games, but so what? We’ve patched a team together because of the injuries so of course there’s times it doesn’t work.Something came to mind recently though, we expect perfection every single time from sportsmen, but at the end of the day we all make mistakes at work, footballers are no different. Stand by them instead of giving them grief.9
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When we were winning / picking up points TC wasn’t scoring goals, so what, it’s a big step up for him, and I believe he’s got to come up with a plan that works for him, to ‘step up’
NJ doesn’t seem to bothered either way, otherwise he’d have given him a rest by now.
I can only think that NJ thinks we are a better side with TC in it ( we don’t appear to have a lot of alternative options up front).
I think if TC was playing alongside Godden / a n other who was scoring regularly, we’d see a more relaxed TC.
Cmon TC,
prove the doubters wrong and get some in the onion bag son!0 -
He's played upfront all season and hasn't scored a goal, there's not really much else to say4
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TC and Carey are the only offensive players we have of making something from nothing thats why theyre selected.0
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His job is to do other things than score, he pulls the opposition out of position and creates space for our style of play. We miss him when he’s not playing, same as missing Kelman right now for the exact same reasonDDOUBLEE said:He's played upfront all season and hasn't scored a goal, there's not really much else to say0 -
This last 10 minutes is why2
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Causing real problems2
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Against CharltonSuper_Eddie_Youds said:Causing real problems0 -
If you watch Olaofe trying to defend while playing out wide, that is the answer to the question of why TC plays every game
Olaofe has only been doing it for 20 minutes and has lost his man about 8 times, running around like a lost puppy3 -
If only he could pass3
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Probably one of his best performances of the season, until he became someone who had to be used to plug gaps in the team
He and Olaofe exploited the space that Coventry had, and stretched them whilst Bell was on2 -
Thought he was good first 20 mins and the last 10 mins. We sacrificed some of his threat moving him after the Bell sub. He also made some poor decisions and was frustrating at times. Pretty standard bottom half Championship player performance3
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Still cannot do a 2 yard pass3
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I like TC and he’s definitely in our best starting eleven. But Jones needs to learn to sub him off sometimes, the poor kid was absolutely knackered and if we keep doing this to him he’s going to get an injury8
