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Why does T.Campbell keep getting selected

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  • CAFC_boi said:
    Really happy for him. Hope that sparks a run now against some less capable opponents.
    Spoiler: it won’t. 

    You’ll always get a couple gimmes with that much game time. 

    Need to see a proper finish at some point. 
    He was dropped, he came on and scored an important goal and you still dig him out - pathetic 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,643
    Yes he scored but Leaburn was right behind him as well .. but took advantage of Birmingham not really settling after our sub and failed to pick him up …. But what else did he do nothing … sub bench is the best place for him …. We looked far better with two strikers up top… still not sure why Apter is behind Campbell and Fullah he is by far the best winger we have at the club 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,776
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,163
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,134
    Could the thread title be changed to something a bit less negative? 

  • jose
    jose Posts: 878
    I have not read this thread because of the title.
    TC is one of my favourite players, and I am glad he is ours.
    He didn’t cost a couple of million pounds either.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,689
    edited December 14
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
    That’s odd. I’ve been to plenty of games this season and am proud to be part of TC’s fan club. Thinking about it, it’s maybe less obvious without commentary how often he is being asked by NJ to swap positions / do different jobs?  
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,105
    I reckon Jones interview yesterday explained Campbells roles and his work rate bloody well.
    People do not recognize how much he does in defending by getting back to cover for regular defenders out of place, so some times he runs out of steam.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,823
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
    Good shout this. Feel like frustration builds very quickly in the stadium when TC makes a mistake. 

    When watching via a stream he’s often the only player that provides some excitement going forward, even if he is inconsistent. 

    NJ hasn’t helped his stocks by playing him in a position that he just shouldn’t be in (LWB) 
  • CAFC_boi
    CAFC_boi Posts: 317
    se9addick said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    He’s scored one goal into a goal with no keeper in sight and suddenly he’s the best thing since sliced bread again? Both extremes are laughable tbh. 
    Don’t end up in a place where you actually want one of our players not to do well because you want to win an argument on the internet. 
    I couldn’t give a toss about an argument on the internet. 

    I’m a Charlton fan and want Charlton to win and every player to do well, obviously. 

    I just have a differing view to others on how best to get success from this Charlton team. 

    I would be delighted to be shown up as a fraud tbh, but 1 goal in 20 games doesn’t exactly give off ‘told you so’ vibes. That would be 2 goals in a season..  

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  • CAFC_boi
    CAFC_boi Posts: 317
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
    I agree with this - when he ducked the challenge for the second Middlesbrough goal, I just watched him instead of the play and he just gave up and didn’t even make an effort to sprint back. Even if futile it gives off a better impression. 

    That would be missed on a camera following the ball. 


  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,163
    edited December 14
    Laddick01 said:
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
    Good shout this. Feel like frustration builds very quickly in the stadium when TC makes a mistake. 

    When watching via a stream he’s often the only player that provides some excitement going forward, even if he is inconsistent. 

    NJ hasn’t helped his stocks by playing him in a position that he just shouldn’t be in (LWB) 
    It’s just my take, not saying it’s right. But TC displays very negative body language. Head down, never looks happy, never acknowledges supporters and just doesn’t look like he enjoys playing. When he’s not having a good game, you can see a change in his demeanour and approach. I think these things are a lot more noticeable in person than via online viewing. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,599
    edited December 14
    I'm pleased for him that he scored, and to be fair, it came after him being dropped to the bench, which is what most people were calling for. He obviously needs a rest to recuperate mentally and physically. 

    I'm not sure if the stuff about him not wanting to celebrate with the fans is true or not, but he needs to take the rough with the smooth. He might get criticised sometimes, but his song is also the one that's sung more than any other player. 

    And it doesn't matter who you are, if you back out of a 50/50 like that at The Valley, you will get pelters. 
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,313
    CAFC_boi said:
    se9addick said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    He’s scored one goal into a goal with no keeper in sight and suddenly he’s the best thing since sliced bread again? Both extremes are laughable tbh. 
    Don’t end up in a place where you actually want one of our players not to do well because you want to win an argument on the internet. 
    I couldn’t give a toss about an argument on the internet. 

    I’m a Charlton fan and want Charlton to win and every player to do well, obviously. 

    I just have a differing view to others on how best to get success from this Charlton team. 

    I would be delighted to be shown up as a fraud tbh, but 1 goal in 20 games doesn’t exactly give off ‘told you so’ vibes. That would be 2 goals in a season..  
    PWR - what’s your solution then?
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,313
    Laddick01 said:
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
    Good shout this. Feel like frustration builds very quickly in the stadium when TC makes a mistake. 

    When watching via a stream he’s often the only player that provides some excitement going forward, even if he is inconsistent. 

    NJ hasn’t helped his stocks by playing him in a position that he just shouldn’t be in (LWB) 
    It’s just my take, not saying it’s right. But TC displays very negative body language. Head down, never looks happy, never acknowledges supporters and just doesn’t look like he enjoys playing. When he’s not having a good game, you can see a change in his demeanour and approach. I think these things are a lot more noticeable in person than via online viewing. 
    Rak-Sakyi was exactly the same. Maybe they are reserved characters! He never likes fist pumping infront of the covered end like others do. TC is just a shy lad, but he shouldn’t be punished for that! He is still plying his trade and people quickly forget this is his first season in championship football.

    We have a habit of slating players and then moving on to have great careers. We all need to take a step back and remember we are just a punter paying the money to go and watch professionals who have all worked vitally hard to get to where they are! It boils my piss! 
  • Interesting reading brum fans saying we have “two promising young players” in fullah and TC, the lad’s only 22, still plenty of time to learn and develop into a quality championship player. Delighted he got a goal, I hope he goes on a goal glut now to shut people up (including your humble narrator). 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 13,236
    CAFC_boi said:
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
    I agree with this - when he ducked the challenge for the second Middlesbrough goal, I just watched him instead of the play and he just gave up and didn’t even make an effort to sprint back. Even if futile it gives off a better impression. 

    That would be missed on a camera following the ball. 


    Thing is he’s shattered. NJ said yesterday he’s running 12k in some games. Those are elite PL midfielder numbers. NJ also said he does 1km of sprinting per game. That’s going to have an effect on his legs the more he plays 
  • CAFC_boi
    CAFC_boi Posts: 317
    fenaddick said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
    I agree with this - when he ducked the challenge for the second Middlesbrough goal, I just watched him instead of the play and he just gave up and didn’t even make an effort to sprint back. Even if futile it gives off a better impression. 

    That would be missed on a camera following the ball. 


    Thing is he’s shattered. NJ said yesterday he’s running 12k in some games. Those are elite PL midfielder numbers. NJ also said he does 1km of sprinting per game. That’s going to have an effect on his legs the more he plays 
    I agree - and maybe he just needs a break (which he hasn’t had) but surely the calls him for him to be rested are justified? 
  • CAFC_boi
    CAFC_boi Posts: 317
    cafc_se7 said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    se9addick said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    He’s scored one goal into a goal with no keeper in sight and suddenly he’s the best thing since sliced bread again? Both extremes are laughable tbh. 
    Don’t end up in a place where you actually want one of our players not to do well because you want to win an argument on the internet. 
    I couldn’t give a toss about an argument on the internet. 

    I’m a Charlton fan and want Charlton to win and every player to do well, obviously. 

    I just have a differing view to others on how best to get success from this Charlton team. 

    I would be delighted to be shown up as a fraud tbh, but 1 goal in 20 games doesn’t exactly give off ‘told you so’ vibes. That would be 2 goals in a season..  
    PWR - what’s your solution then?
    Personally, I prefer Olaofe to TC - he usually has an impact, although Olaofe’s finishing against Middlesbrough was also terrible tbf. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,617
    Better from the bench clearly based on the two times he's done it. 

    Think 'super sub' should be his position going forwards. 

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 13,236
    CAFC_boi said:
    fenaddick said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
    I agree with this - when he ducked the challenge for the second Middlesbrough goal, I just watched him instead of the play and he just gave up and didn’t even make an effort to sprint back. Even if futile it gives off a better impression. 

    That would be missed on a camera following the ball. 


    Thing is he’s shattered. NJ said yesterday he’s running 12k in some games. Those are elite PL midfielder numbers. NJ also said he does 1km of sprinting per game. That’s going to have an effect on his legs the more he plays 
    I agree - and maybe he just needs a break (which he hasn’t had) but surely the calls him for him to be rested are justified? 
    Of course. My point is we react to him not tracking without knowing the facts (fine, we’re allowed to do that!) but actually those stats add context, especially when Carey is covering the space behind him 
  • scabbyhorse
    scabbyhorse Posts: 2,565
    TC needs a decent overlapping wing-back to support him, and then we’ll start to see his confidence grow. Everyone must want him to do well because, in my opinion, he’s our only real bright spark at the moment and is carrying virtually all of our goal threat on his shoulders, which I think is starting to tell. The same can probably be said for Leaburn. Our passing from midfield to attack has to improve, and it would also help if there were other goal threats in the team. Carey has been good so far, but he isn’t likely to unlock defences with his passing.
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,366
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
    I'm surprised you say that. At the games you see how much running he does, which isn't so obvious on TV.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,289
    I think tc is terrific, he just needs runners around him to enable/unlock his full potential, one on one he can beat anyone. Might take us til next season to get there in this league
  • fenaddick said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
    I agree with this - when he ducked the challenge for the second Middlesbrough goal, I just watched him instead of the play and he just gave up and didn’t even make an effort to sprint back. Even if futile it gives off a better impression. 

    That would be missed on a camera following the ball. 


    Thing is he’s shattered. NJ said yesterday he’s running 12k in some games. Those are elite PL midfielder numbers. NJ also said he does 1km of sprinting per game. That’s going to have an effect on his legs the more he plays 
    I know needs must, but with all the running and travelling round the globe he does, the guy needs a break!
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,575
    Don’t think you can read anything into the celebration. He’s clearly a shy lad but also it was an equaliser not a winner, so he went back to his own half probably thinking there’s one back let’s get another 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,575
    CAFC_boi said:
    fenaddick said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    Scoham said:
    I definitely feel with Campbell there’s a noticeable difference between those that go games and those that view via streams 
    Those that go to games appreciate him more?
    No, the opposite 
    I agree with this - when he ducked the challenge for the second Middlesbrough goal, I just watched him instead of the play and he just gave up and didn’t even make an effort to sprint back. Even if futile it gives off a better impression. 

    That would be missed on a camera following the ball. 


    Thing is he’s shattered. NJ said yesterday he’s running 12k in some games. Those are elite PL midfielder numbers. NJ also said he does 1km of sprinting per game. That’s going to have an effect on his legs the more he plays 
    I agree - and maybe he just needs a break (which he hasn’t had) but surely the calls him for him to be rested are justified? 
    They are, I’m a big fan but also think he needs a break. 

    Calls for him to be rested were justified. Calls that he’s not good enough and never will be for this level were not imo, along with over-analysing every mistake he makes and greeting it with loud criticism. Which is what some have been saying/doing 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 426
    One goal isn’t going to change the mind of doubters and not should it, until he does so much as a forward to the benefit of the team that nobody can complain, then people have the right to criticise or blow smoke up his arse in equal measure, all that matters is if it is a benefit to the team. I’ve slagged him off( not personally because he’s a lovely lad) on performance and I’ve sung his name with pride when he deserves it, it’s very frustrating to read the people on hear that won’t have him doing anything wrong in front of they’re own eyes, yet I guess they will argue the other way.who new football is about opinions.
  • I think in the 2nd half against Boro and yesterday TC got more stuck in than he used to.
    I imagine it's something they're encouraging him to do more of but it doesn't come naturally and he needs (a bit of) patience as he works on adjusting his style and mindset to include more of it in his game.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,570
    Yes he scored but Leaburn was right behind him as well .. but took advantage of Birmingham not really settling after our sub and failed to pick him up …. But what else did he do nothing … sub bench is the best place for him …. We looked far better with two strikers up top… still not sure why Apter is behind Campbell and Fullah he is by far the best winger we have at the club 
    Leaburn showed what he does in those positions earlier.