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Zach Mitchell - Sept 2025 on a season long loan to Hibernian (p22)
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Whilst i may disagree with some of the posters here about unfair treatment, ability etc of Mitchell thats just largely down to the fact I know significantly more about football than most posters here and have more than likely a lot more inside knowledge about how football operates at a professional level based on personal experience and contacts of mine, that said i do agree in one thing.
There is completely no point to him being on loan at Hibs now, we need to recall him and in my opinion he has to go on loan to a top National League or league 2 side now where he should be guarenteed minutes. There is no point to him being on loan in the other side of the country if he isnt playing, as said stick him on loan to top national league side or league 2 team and if he isnt playing consistently at that level we need to address the question of why?1 -
If the clubs don't have an arrangement already for him not to play I think Charlton should be having a quiet word with Mitchell advising him he should maybe feel a twinge in a hamstring during training this week and not be available for the next month.1
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Conspiracy theories aside, he's lost half a season of development football that he clearly needed, even if he returns for us in Jan I wouldnt expect too much from him tbh.4
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When he was loaned to Hibernian it seemed like a very good idea at the time, but we assumed he would get minutes on the pitch.
I would bring him home at the end of December and keep him around. At the very least he can play U21 games, he has been shovelled around too much for the past 18 months. As a club we ought to wrap our arms around him.5 -
I highly doubt he can play u21 games as he’s registered at another club for nowjose said:When he was loaned to Hibernian it seemed like a very good idea at the time, but we assumed he would get minutes on the pitch.
I would bring him home at the end of December and keep him around. At the very least he can play U21 games, he has been shovelled around too much for the past 18 months. As a club we ought to wrap our arms around him.0 -
I meant end the loan, de register him from Hibernian at the end of the calendar year.fenaddick said:
I highly doubt he can play u21 games as he’s registered at another club for nowjose said:When he was loaned to Hibernian it seemed like a very good idea at the time, but we assumed he would get minutes on the pitch.
I would bring him home at the end of December and keep him around. At the very least he can play U21 games, he has been shovelled around too much for the past 18 months. As a club we ought to wrap our arms around him.1 -
On bench again today for the fifth time as an unused sub despite five subs being utilised once again. Hope that this is just a smokescreen and that the decision to recall him has already been agreed because the last thing he needs is a couple of minutes pre-January only to then find he's back to warming the bench once the January window ends.Addick Addict said:Hibs lost 2-1 and made five subs but Mitchell wasn't one of them. Whether this is deliberate or not, he isn't being used and just hope that he will be with Hibs for just another month.
For the guidance for the writer of the article, a "fringe player" isn't someone who gets zero minutes.The defender spent the second half of last term at Premiership level with St Johnstone on loan from the English Championship side, and returned north to Hibs in the summer transfer window. He has not played a competitive match for David Gray’s side, however, and his only minutes have come in a KDM Evolution Trophy league phase match against Peterhead. Mitchell scored and helped Hibs’ youngsters gain a clean sheet in the 4-0 victory.Charlton Athletic have confirmed they could seek an alternate plan for Zach Mitchell, if his Hibs situation does not change.
He has been an unused sub four times ahead of this weekend’s league match with Falkirk and Hibs are set to have some defensive gaps needing covered, with Rocky Bushiri and Jordan Obita to miss time through involvement at the Africa Cup of Nations. Charlton Athletic boss Nathan Jones has admitted that should Mitchell continue to be a fringe player, the Addicks may seek a solution in next month’s transfer window.
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This must be how Spurs felt when we had Nile John on loan from them7
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That was posted on 8th November when Mitchell wasn't in the first team squad. Since then:Addick Addict said:A thought has just occurred to me. Could it be that the U21 game that he played for Hibs doesn't count as one of the two clubs he's permitted to play for? If that's the case then might a "gentleman's agreement" have been struck between us and them whereby he doesn't play for them before January so we can send him elsewhere?
22nd November - not in squad
25th November - not in squad
30th November - unused on bench with five other subs coming on
6th December - unused on bench with five other subs coming on
Tonight - unused on bench with five other subs coming on
Hopefully Mitchell has just three more games to warm the bench before he is recalled and sent out to get some game time elsewhere. Two years out of three where the lad has wasted half a season isn't helping his development one iota. It will have sent him backwards if not on the actual playing side then potentially on the mentally. For a professional sports person, previously proven at the level he has played at, not to get a single minute of action can only be demoralising.
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Zach starts for Hibs today4
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Doesnt that mean he's stuck there for the season now, as thats two teams he's played for0
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Unless NJ wants him involved here which seems unlikelyForeverAddickted said:Doesnt that mean he's stuck there for the season now, as thats two teams he's played for1 -
Forced to play considering they have 4 defenders our todayfenaddick said:Zach starts for Hibs today0 -
He has an assist for a goal. 1-1 at HT there1
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Hit the bar tooCallumcafc said:He has an assist for a goal. 1-1 at HT there2 -
Radostanradical said:Whilst i may disagree with some of the posters here about unfair treatment, ability etc of Mitchell thats just largely down to the fact I know significantly more about football than most posters here and have more than likely a lot more inside knowledge about how football operates at a professional level based on personal experience and contacts of mine.
Lyle Taylor suspicion intensifies
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Let's hope now that Mitchell gets a decent run in the side. Playing him has prevented all hope of him going on loan elsewhere and the worst thing that could happen is that he is displaced by those returning defenders. It will do him the world of good to add plenty of matches to the 90 minutes he had playing alongside the very experienced Grant Hanley.
Quite why he was signed on loan and it has then taken four months for him to get his chance (and just 12 days before the January window) is open too to debate.7 -
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https://www.hibeesbounce.com/threads/arabs-1-v-1-hibs.145569/post-2199087“Like what I’ve seen of Zac so far”“Yes he looks confident and wants the ball.”
“We've been pretty good since their goal. Mitchell and Megwa been solid”
“Mitchell was very good. My MotM.”11 -
We're thinking exactly the same thing JRF!!1
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Hopefully similar to Asiimwe at Walsall, doesn’t get a sniff gets given a chance and doesn’t leave the team from that point7
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SO pleased to see that Zach had a good 90 minutes today !
Positive comments too.
Some of us knew Zach's potential from watching him in the u21s although others have been less complimentary after watching less than 90 minutes in total.
Really hope he's given the opportunity to push on and seriously challenge to keep his place in the starting eleven.
Onwards & upwards, Zach !10 -
"On a positive note - take a bow Zach Mitchell - calm, assured and played like someone 7 or 8 years older. Just a pity he’s only on loan."
"Why has it taken so long for him to be given his opportunity? No wonder his parent club voiced their concerns."
"I think he was brought here as Afcon cover. We saw him play for the U 19s at Peterhead and he looked a class above. Today he looked very good so let’s just enjoy him while we can."
No football for four months and their fans are now worried that he's going to be recalled. The fans of a second club at this level saying exactly the same thing. What a waste of an opportunity. Times two after the Colchester debacle. You could not write it.
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Lad needs to get his confidence back, and not keep being mucked about, by his loan club.
Is he good enough for a league one loan yet, I’m not sure?2 -
Well done to the young man, hopefully now he can get some momentum and start playing up there.
In response to a previous post I cant be bothered to reply to, no one was doubting how good he was at youth level, he just needs to show it more at senior level far more consistently. However of course I hope he does not just from a club level but for the young man himself.
As said good performance yesterday and hopefully this will be the catalyst for him to kick on, perhaps now Hibs manager will see he can be an asset and give him real consideration which should encourage Zach in confidence which he can bring in to matches and training.1 -
That's the point. He can't go on a League One loan now because he's played for two clubs this season.Mendonca In Asdas said:Lad needs to get his confidence back, and not keep being mucked about, by his loan club.
Is he good enough for a league one loan yet, I’m not sure?1 -
You doubted he was good enough to play for Hibs despite being brilliant for his loan club at this level last season. What has playing at being good at "youth level" got the hell to do with that?Radostanradical said:Well done to the young man, hopefully now he can get some momentum and start playing up there.
In response to a previous post I cant be bothered to reply to, no one was doubting how good he was at youth level, he just needs to show it more at senior level far more consistently. However of course I hope he does not just from a club level but for the young man himself.
As said good performance yesterday and hopefully this will be the catalyst for him to kick on, perhaps now Hibs manager will see he can be an asset and give him real consideration which should encourage Zach in confidence which he can bring in to matches and training.2 -
As said if you read my post properly, the sentence literally says in response to a previous poster who said about knowing how good he was at youth level.Addick Addict said:
You doubted he was good enough to play for Hibs despite being brilliant for his loan club at this level last season. What has playing at being good at "youth level" got the hell to do with that?Radostanradical said:Well done to the young man, hopefully now he can get some momentum and start playing up there.
In response to a previous post I cant be bothered to reply to, no one was doubting how good he was at youth level, he just needs to show it more at senior level far more consistently. However of course I hope he does not just from a club level but for the young man himself.
As said good performance yesterday and hopefully this will be the catalyst for him to kick on, perhaps now Hibs manager will see he can be an asset and give him real consideration which should encourage Zach in confidence which he can bring in to matches and training.
However you are right i did "doubt" that he was good enough for Hibs as I logically pointed out managers are paid to win games so I very much doubt he has been training and manager has thought "Wow thisnlad is incredible, best defender at the club, lets leave him out the starting 11 though".
I dont really understand your point about him being brilliamtnat St Johnstone? What does that have to do wih anything? A player can be good enough for one club but not another right? Bonne, Taylor, Holmes etc.
If he carries on and pushes on and has a good rest of the season with Hibs, I will be the first to clap my hands and say well done for proving those with doubts wrong, including myself. I (like others) have never "written him off" just pointed out what should be obvious to most football fans if you remove bias.
Now lastly ill leave it with 2 points -
1) if you are going to take issue with my posts l, please read them and respond to what ive actually said not what you want me to have said.
2) Well done Zach, a good first match after half a season not playing is not an easy achievement. Lets hope he carries on.1
