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After the Millwall game - club reply to CAST p34, further CAST response p45
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You know the Chelsea fans held back yeah?
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Why? Chelsea have a large hooligan element like Millwall, Leeds etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
You think this was a high risk match, why?TootingRedArmy said:It was very sensible to hold the Chelsea fans back, as per earlier post.
Surely in future high risk matches, the stadium announcer at around 85-90 mins informs away fans they are being held back and its also put on the big screen. Fans can decide to wait in the road or stay in their seats with toilets etc. Or just tell them in advance with clear instructions that no fans will be allowed out of the ground once they have entered, till home fans have left and expect 30mins delay.....simple surely?
I have zero sympathy for Chelsea, Millwall or other clubs with hooligan fans being held back they have caused chaos for decades and if they are inconvencied so be it.
I hope MET Police and our club sort out communication with away fans for all future high risk matches, so our supporters are free to leave safety and without any disrupt, exactly as it should be.
Evidenced before the match down Floyd rd & police teams going in to stop them kicking off.
(one of my sons mates is a Met policeman who arrived very late & saw it & polices football games)
i've seen Chelsea Headhunters in action, both at Valley and The Bridge to know they can't be trusted to behave. A Sat 8pm after a day of alcohol with Chelsea is of course a high risk match. I was very pleased after the match to see the road blocked with vans and large contingent of police and policehorses and get away without having to see any Chelsea fans. Likewise i'm more than happy to wait 30+ mins after the Millwall away to get the train back to London Bridge.
It is what it is some clubs are still stuck in the dark ages and their so called fans can't be trusted to behave.3 -
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The Jimmy Seed stand now has commodes - who knew! 😉😆TootingRedArmy said:It was very sensible to hold the Chelsea fans back, as per earlier post.
Surely in future high risk matches, the stadium announcer at around 85-90 mins informs away fans they are being held back and its also put on the big screen. Fans can decide to wait in the road or stay in their seats with toilets etc. Or just tell them in advance with clear instructions that no fans will be allowed out of the ground once they have entered, till home fans have left and expect 30mins delay.....simple surely?
I have zero sympathy for Chelsea, Millwall or other clubs with hooligan fans being held back they have caused chaos for decades and if they are inconvencied so be it.
I hope MET Police and our club sort out communication with away fans for all future high risk matches, so our supporters are free to leave safety and without any disrupt, exactly as it should be.3 -
Do you think Birmingham, Leicester and Portsmouth are high risk?TootingRedArmy said:
Why? Chelsea have a large hooligan element like Millwall, Leeds etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
You think this was a high risk match, why?TootingRedArmy said:It was very sensible to hold the Chelsea fans back, as per earlier post.
Surely in future high risk matches, the stadium announcer at around 85-90 mins informs away fans they are being held back and its also put on the big screen. Fans can decide to wait in the road or stay in their seats with toilets etc. Or just tell them in advance with clear instructions that no fans will be allowed out of the ground once they have entered, till home fans have left and expect 30mins delay.....simple surely?
I have zero sympathy for Chelsea, Millwall or other clubs with hooligan fans being held back they have caused chaos for decades and if they are inconvencied so be it.
I hope MET Police and our club sort out communication with away fans for all future high risk matches, so our supporters are free to leave safety and without any disrupt, exactly as it should be.
Evidenced before the match down Floyd rd & police teams going in to stop them kicking off.
(one of my sons mates is a Met policeman who arrived very late & saw it & polices football games)
i've seen Chelsea Headhunters in action, both at Valley and The Bridge to know they can't be trusted to behave. A Sat 8pm after a day of alcohol with Chelsea is of course a high risk match. I was very pleased after the match to see the road blocked with vans and large contingent of police and policehorses and get away without having to see any Chelsea fans. Likewise i'm more than happy to wait 30+ mins after the Millwall away to get the train back to London Bridge.
It is what it is some clubs are still stuck in the dark ages and their so called fans can't be trusted to behave.
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I think Chelsea & Millwall are on another level to those three! I'm not going to put them into a hooligan premier league, of who has the worse hooligans, Bushwackers, Headhunters, Zulus, Baby Squad etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
Do you think Birmingham, Leicester and Portsmouth are high risk?TootingRedArmy said:
Why? Chelsea have a large hooligan element like Millwall, Leeds etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
You think this was a high risk match, why?TootingRedArmy said:It was very sensible to hold the Chelsea fans back, as per earlier post.
Surely in future high risk matches, the stadium announcer at around 85-90 mins informs away fans they are being held back and its also put on the big screen. Fans can decide to wait in the road or stay in their seats with toilets etc. Or just tell them in advance with clear instructions that no fans will be allowed out of the ground once they have entered, till home fans have left and expect 30mins delay.....simple surely?
I have zero sympathy for Chelsea, Millwall or other clubs with hooligan fans being held back they have caused chaos for decades and if they are inconvencied so be it.
I hope MET Police and our club sort out communication with away fans for all future high risk matches, so our supporters are free to leave safety and without any disrupt, exactly as it should be.
Evidenced before the match down Floyd rd & police teams going in to stop them kicking off.
(one of my sons mates is a Met policeman who arrived very late & saw it & polices football games)
i've seen Chelsea Headhunters in action, both at Valley and The Bridge to know they can't be trusted to behave. A Sat 8pm after a day of alcohol with Chelsea is of course a high risk match. I was very pleased after the match to see the road blocked with vans and large contingent of police and policehorses and get away without having to see any Chelsea fans. Likewise i'm more than happy to wait 30+ mins after the Millwall away to get the train back to London Bridge.
It is what it is some clubs are still stuck in the dark ages and their so called fans can't be trusted to behave.
Charlton station being the main transport point for home and away fans & of course Floyd Rd are the two places for obvious trouble so letting home fans disperse makes perfect sense
moving fwd the Met and club need to give advance warning of arrangements post match, as should Millwall for what the arrangements are for our fixture on Jan 24th at the Den.
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Each time we played Chelsea in the Premier League there were no problems leaving the ground together.TootingRedArmy said:
I think Chelsea & Millwall are on another level to those three! I'm not going to put them into a hooligan premier league, of who has the worse hooligans, Bushwackers, Headhunters, Zulus, Baby Squad etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
Do you think Birmingham, Leicester and Portsmouth are high risk?TootingRedArmy said:
Why? Chelsea have a large hooligan element like Millwall, Leeds etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
You think this was a high risk match, why?TootingRedArmy said:It was very sensible to hold the Chelsea fans back, as per earlier post.
Surely in future high risk matches, the stadium announcer at around 85-90 mins informs away fans they are being held back and its also put on the big screen. Fans can decide to wait in the road or stay in their seats with toilets etc. Or just tell them in advance with clear instructions that no fans will be allowed out of the ground once they have entered, till home fans have left and expect 30mins delay.....simple surely?
I have zero sympathy for Chelsea, Millwall or other clubs with hooligan fans being held back they have caused chaos for decades and if they are inconvencied so be it.
I hope MET Police and our club sort out communication with away fans for all future high risk matches, so our supporters are free to leave safety and without any disrupt, exactly as it should be.
Evidenced before the match down Floyd rd & police teams going in to stop them kicking off.
(one of my sons mates is a Met policeman who arrived very late & saw it & polices football games)
i've seen Chelsea Headhunters in action, both at Valley and The Bridge to know they can't be trusted to behave. A Sat 8pm after a day of alcohol with Chelsea is of course a high risk match. I was very pleased after the match to see the road blocked with vans and large contingent of police and policehorses and get away without having to see any Chelsea fans. Likewise i'm more than happy to wait 30+ mins after the Millwall away to get the train back to London Bridge.
It is what it is some clubs are still stuck in the dark ages and their so called fans can't be trusted to behave.
Charlton station being the main transport point for home and away fans & of course Floyd Rd are the two places for obvious trouble so letting home fans disperse makes perfect sense
moving fwd the Met and club need to give advance warning of arrangements post match, as should Millwall for what the arrangements are for our fixture on Jan 24th at the Den.5 -
Then my educated guess would be something untoward went on before kick off, for the Police to take the action they did.ElfsborgAddick said:
Each time we played Chelsea in the Premier League there were no problems leaving the ground together.TootingRedArmy said:
I think Chelsea & Millwall are on another level to those three! I'm not going to put them into a hooligan premier league, of who has the worse hooligans, Bushwackers, Headhunters, Zulus, Baby Squad etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
Do you think Birmingham, Leicester and Portsmouth are high risk?TootingRedArmy said:
Why? Chelsea have a large hooligan element like Millwall, Leeds etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
You think this was a high risk match, why?TootingRedArmy said:It was very sensible to hold the Chelsea fans back, as per earlier post.
Surely in future high risk matches, the stadium announcer at around 85-90 mins informs away fans they are being held back and its also put on the big screen. Fans can decide to wait in the road or stay in their seats with toilets etc. Or just tell them in advance with clear instructions that no fans will be allowed out of the ground once they have entered, till home fans have left and expect 30mins delay.....simple surely?
I have zero sympathy for Chelsea, Millwall or other clubs with hooligan fans being held back they have caused chaos for decades and if they are inconvencied so be it.
I hope MET Police and our club sort out communication with away fans for all future high risk matches, so our supporters are free to leave safety and without any disrupt, exactly as it should be.
Evidenced before the match down Floyd rd & police teams going in to stop them kicking off.
(one of my sons mates is a Met policeman who arrived very late & saw it & polices football games)
i've seen Chelsea Headhunters in action, both at Valley and The Bridge to know they can't be trusted to behave. A Sat 8pm after a day of alcohol with Chelsea is of course a high risk match. I was very pleased after the match to see the road blocked with vans and large contingent of police and policehorses and get away without having to see any Chelsea fans. Likewise i'm more than happy to wait 30+ mins after the Millwall away to get the train back to London Bridge.
It is what it is some clubs are still stuck in the dark ages and their so called fans can't be trusted to behave.
Charlton station being the main transport point for home and away fans & of course Floyd Rd are the two places for obvious trouble so letting home fans disperse makes perfect sense
moving fwd the Met and club need to give advance warning of arrangements post match, as should Millwall for what the arrangements are for our fixture on Jan 24th at the Den.Was that communicated to those travelling supporters? If not then you can understand their anger and frustration of being penned in like that.4 -
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Millwall is normally a double hold back. In the stadium and at the path gates that leads to the station. At the gates and along the path normally turns into the Battle of Senegal Fields with the Police struggling to hold back our lot fed up with being kettled to boiling point so to speak.
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As per earlier post one of my sons mates is a Met policeman and saw police snatch squads going in to stop groups of Chelsea fans causing trouble down Floyd rd just before the match. Maybe there were other more serious incidents with Chelsea hooligans.shirty5 said:
Then my educated guess would be something untoward went on before kick off, for the Police to take the action they did.ElfsborgAddick said:
Each time we played Chelsea in the Premier League there were no problems leaving the ground together.TootingRedArmy said:
I think Chelsea & Millwall are on another level to those three! I'm not going to put them into a hooligan premier league, of who has the worse hooligans, Bushwackers, Headhunters, Zulus, Baby Squad etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
Do you think Birmingham, Leicester and Portsmouth are high risk?TootingRedArmy said:
Why? Chelsea have a large hooligan element like Millwall, Leeds etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
You think this was a high risk match, why?TootingRedArmy said:It was very sensible to hold the Chelsea fans back, as per earlier post.
Surely in future high risk matches, the stadium announcer at around 85-90 mins informs away fans they are being held back and its also put on the big screen. Fans can decide to wait in the road or stay in their seats with toilets etc. Or just tell them in advance with clear instructions that no fans will be allowed out of the ground once they have entered, till home fans have left and expect 30mins delay.....simple surely?
I have zero sympathy for Chelsea, Millwall or other clubs with hooligan fans being held back they have caused chaos for decades and if they are inconvencied so be it.
I hope MET Police and our club sort out communication with away fans for all future high risk matches, so our supporters are free to leave safety and without any disrupt, exactly as it should be.
Evidenced before the match down Floyd rd & police teams going in to stop them kicking off.
(one of my sons mates is a Met policeman who arrived very late & saw it & polices football games)
i've seen Chelsea Headhunters in action, both at Valley and The Bridge to know they can't be trusted to behave. A Sat 8pm after a day of alcohol with Chelsea is of course a high risk match. I was very pleased after the match to see the road blocked with vans and large contingent of police and policehorses and get away without having to see any Chelsea fans. Likewise i'm more than happy to wait 30+ mins after the Millwall away to get the train back to London Bridge.
It is what it is some clubs are still stuck in the dark ages and their so called fans can't be trusted to behave.
Charlton station being the main transport point for home and away fans & of course Floyd Rd are the two places for obvious trouble so letting home fans disperse makes perfect sense
moving fwd the Met and club need to give advance warning of arrangements post match, as should Millwall for what the arrangements are for our fixture on Jan 24th at the Den.Was that communicated to those travelling supporters? If not then you can understand their anger and frustration of being penned in like that.
Does anyone know if Jimmy Seed PA announced to Chelsea fans that they were being held back? A policeman with a megaphone was shouting it clearly when i walked pass the policevans with the large group of MET blocking the road. I imagine for seasoned Chelsea fans being kept behind happens regularly and seems very sensible policing to avoid potential trouble & allow Charlton fans to leave peacefully.
Does anyone know caused several hundred Chelsea fans to enter JS via pitch before the ground?
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Chelsea were held back so the Millwall fan making the decisions in the police can justify holding us back at the den - doesn’t want it to look too obvious that his new policy of holding home fans back instead happens everywhere but the den - he’s a genius - he knows we have rowley on his case now though so don’t be surprised if he tries to go out with a bang and hold us in for 24 hrs at the banana unloaders stadium2
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Know a Chelsea fan that went, he told me no communication about being held in Valley Grove after the game,TootingRedArmy said:
As per earlier post one of my sons mates is a Met policeman and saw police snatch squads going in to stop groups of Chelsea fans causing trouble down Floyd rd just before the match. Maybe there were other more serious incidents with Chelsea hooligans.shirty5 said:
Then my educated guess would be something untoward went on before kick off, for the Police to take the action they did.ElfsborgAddick said:
Each time we played Chelsea in the Premier League there were no problems leaving the ground together.TootingRedArmy said:
I think Chelsea & Millwall are on another level to those three! I'm not going to put them into a hooligan premier league, of who has the worse hooligans, Bushwackers, Headhunters, Zulus, Baby Squad etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
Do you think Birmingham, Leicester and Portsmouth are high risk?TootingRedArmy said:
Why? Chelsea have a large hooligan element like Millwall, Leeds etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
You think this was a high risk match, why?TootingRedArmy said:It was very sensible to hold the Chelsea fans back, as per earlier post.
Surely in future high risk matches, the stadium announcer at around 85-90 mins informs away fans they are being held back and its also put on the big screen. Fans can decide to wait in the road or stay in their seats with toilets etc. Or just tell them in advance with clear instructions that no fans will be allowed out of the ground once they have entered, till home fans have left and expect 30mins delay.....simple surely?
I have zero sympathy for Chelsea, Millwall or other clubs with hooligan fans being held back they have caused chaos for decades and if they are inconvencied so be it.
I hope MET Police and our club sort out communication with away fans for all future high risk matches, so our supporters are free to leave safety and without any disrupt, exactly as it should be.
Evidenced before the match down Floyd rd & police teams going in to stop them kicking off.
(one of my sons mates is a Met policeman who arrived very late & saw it & polices football games)
i've seen Chelsea Headhunters in action, both at Valley and The Bridge to know they can't be trusted to behave. A Sat 8pm after a day of alcohol with Chelsea is of course a high risk match. I was very pleased after the match to see the road blocked with vans and large contingent of police and policehorses and get away without having to see any Chelsea fans. Likewise i'm more than happy to wait 30+ mins after the Millwall away to get the train back to London Bridge.
It is what it is some clubs are still stuck in the dark ages and their so called fans can't be trusted to behave.
Charlton station being the main transport point for home and away fans & of course Floyd Rd are the two places for obvious trouble so letting home fans disperse makes perfect sense
moving fwd the Met and club need to give advance warning of arrangements post match, as should Millwall for what the arrangements are for our fixture on Jan 24th at the Den.Was that communicated to those travelling supporters? If not then you can understand their anger and frustration of being penned in like that.
Does anyone know if Jimmy Seed PA announced to Chelsea fans that they were being held back? A policeman with a megaphone was shouting it clearly when i walked pass the policevans with the large group of MET blocking the road. I imagine for seasoned Chelsea fans being kept behind happens regularly and seems very sensible policing to avoid potential trouble & allow Charlton fans to leave peacefully.
Does anyone know caused several hundred Chelsea fans to enter JS via pitch before the ground?
they were held for about 30 minutes then the police moved one van to let 3,000 through.
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I’ve had an idea.When the game finishes over there. Why don’t we ALL stay put in our seats. Don’t play their silly games of waiting and being kettled. In fact I’d love it if we all took a book to read and put our feet up. It would be hilarious.Imagine plod all stood there with literally no one coming down. I’d love it.2
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Probably get the book taken off as you enter the ground as you may weaponise it.0
