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Karoy Anderson - new contract until 2028 (p23)
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I like him, he is a player who is squeezing everything out of what he has and we can all relate to that. Goes in for everything like he means it
Him equalising people is a pleasure and a thing of beauty to behold2 -
Head scratcher as to why he didn't start against Middlesbrough, particularly as he'd started the abandoned game. His energy has been badly needed.3
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like i just said about tanto, KA is as brave as they come - goes into challenges with no fear and makes challenges others would get nowhere near to - my son thinks he's the worst player we've ever had and tbh, on the ball, i can see his point but he's the epitomy of a midfield destroyer and there's always room for those, whatever the level.0
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Matt Penney, Nile John, the Matt Smith’s and Omar Bogle want a word. And that’s only from the last 5 years!DOUCHER said:like i just said about tanto, KA is as brave as they come - goes into challenges with no fear and makes challenges others would get nowhere near to - my son thinks he's the worst player we've ever had and tbh, on the ball, i can see his point but he's the epitomy of a midfield destroyer and there's always room for those, whatever the level.
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And also not be a total fucking prickScoham said:
He needs to do a reverse Scott Parker - tidy up on the ball and keep his aggression.CaptainRobbo said:Bit of a rough diamond 💎
Just needs a bit of fine polishing, without losing any of his aggressiveness.8 -
The youth of some of our players can sometimes not feature in the thinking of part of our support.
Especially when people are being critical.
Karoy only turned 21 in October. He is a committed footballer who can certainly take the pain, and will work unselfishly for others. He is unlikely to be given nice cushioned passes in free space, he has to dive into midfield cauldrons.
Great lad (although I admit my bias in favour of home grown players), and they certainly deserve support for a number of reasons.
With TC, opponents often remark how threatening he is, but our own fans are less appreciative (see also Leaburn) which is depressing.
Will Fullah get similar treatment in the future?
Anyway well played yesterday Karoy, my man of the match.5 -
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He breaks the play up and gets stuck in. I remember Kishishev getting criticism as a limited player but he had a similar role to play.
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I remember the "Top teams don't play with a destroyer" line after we let ours go, and his team finished above us in 2nd.DOUCHER said:like i just said about tanto, KA is as brave as they come - goes into challenges with no fear and makes challenges others would get nowhere near to - my son thinks he's the worst player we've ever had and tbh, on the ball, i can see his point but he's the epitomy of a midfield destroyer and there's always room for those, whatever the level.
Agree with you, always room for them. Football seems to be slowly trending back towards physicality and I'll expect we'll see even more prevalence in the coming years.1 -
Arguably more effective at this level than he would be in League One.
We don’t need him to play much football at all. However his energy and pressing was key to stopping Birmingham carving through us yesterday.I still think we need a third midfielder in January to play alongside Coventry and Carey, however this is KA’s chance to keep himself in the side.1 -
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:He breaks the play up and gets stuck in. I remember Kishishev getting criticism as a limited player but he had a similar role to play.
So true! Didnt we move kish into centre mid, and his passes werent the best etc and started to get criticised/booed from memory.
i think karoy needs to keep playing at this level consistently to play/learn his way put of the rawness and sloppy mistakes. If he can, he will be a top player. Either way we need his tenacity and athleticism in our engine room right now0 -
Thinking back, Darren Pratley was more effective in the Championship for us then in his first season in L1 also.Laddick01 said:Arguably more effective at this level than he would be in League One.
We don’t need him to play much football at all. However his energy and pressing was key to stopping Birmingham carving through us yesterday.I still think we need a third midfielder in January to play alongside Coventry and Carey, however this is KA’s chance to keep himself in the side.
In L1, we're "big boys" with lots of possession, and expected to break teams down with our quality. Up a level, we're up against teams with bigger budgets and technically better players. Stopping them playing becomes much more important. Pratley was a better player in that role than Karoy due to his experience, but Karoy's energy is definitely an asset.
Baffling why he hasn't featured more this season. There have definitely been games in the last few weeks where we should have packed the midfield more, and make things harder for the opposition to play through us.6 -
I’m sure he has a good touch and is capable of a decent level of technique. We’ve seen it at youth level. I think the occasion of first team football means the adrenaline is pumping a bit too much and can mean his technique leaves him a bit. Also, can mean he can be a bit reckless in a challenge and pick up cards. If he can find a way to contain that, without losing the aggression, he’ll go up a level and be some player. I’m confident he will.8
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He would have had to drop the captain Docherty very early in the season in order to play Anderson.killerandflash said:
Thinking back, Darren Pratley was more effective in the Championship for us then in his first season in L1 also.Laddick01 said:Arguably more effective at this level than he would be in League One.
We don’t need him to play much football at all. However his energy and pressing was key to stopping Birmingham carving through us yesterday.I still think we need a third midfielder in January to play alongside Coventry and Carey, however this is KA’s chance to keep himself in the side.
In L1, we're "big boys" with lots of possession, and expected to break teams down with our quality. Up a level, we're up against teams with bigger budgets and technically better players. Stopping them playing becomes much more important. Pratley was a better player in that role than Karoy due to his experience, but Karoy's energy is definitely an asset.
Baffling why he hasn't featured more this season. There have definitely been games in the last few weeks where we should have packed the midfield more, and make things harder for the opposition to play through us.
No way was our best scorer Carey being dropped earlier in the season and he wasn't going to replace Coventry,2 -
Which is why I mentioned the last few weeks, when we've started struggling and been up against a series of decent sides. Knibbs and Berry have both been starting games, when Karoy could have provided a more defensive and athletic option.Covered End said:
He would have had to drop the captain Docherty very early in the season in order to play Anderson.killerandflash said:
Thinking back, Darren Pratley was more effective in the Championship for us then in his first season in L1 also.Laddick01 said:Arguably more effective at this level than he would be in League One.
We don’t need him to play much football at all. However his energy and pressing was key to stopping Birmingham carving through us yesterday.I still think we need a third midfielder in January to play alongside Coventry and Carey, however this is KA’s chance to keep himself in the side.
In L1, we're "big boys" with lots of possession, and expected to break teams down with our quality. Up a level, we're up against teams with bigger budgets and technically better players. Stopping them playing becomes much more important. Pratley was a better player in that role than Karoy due to his experience, but Karoy's energy is definitely an asset.
Baffling why he hasn't featured more this season. There have definitely been games in the last few weeks where we should have packed the midfield more, and make things harder for the opposition to play through us.
No way was our best scorer Carey being dropped earlier in the season and he wasn't going to replace Coventry,1 -
Has anyone got any footage of his run-up with Ratboy yesterday?0
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I suppose Nathan Jones was looking for someone who could score a goal as his priority.killerandflash said:
Which is why I mentioned the last few weeks, when we've started struggling and been up against a series of decent sides. Knibbs and Berry have both been starting games, when Karoy could have provided a more defensive and athletic option.Covered End said:
He would have had to drop the captain Docherty very early in the season in order to play Anderson.killerandflash said:
Thinking back, Darren Pratley was more effective in the Championship for us then in his first season in L1 also.Laddick01 said:Arguably more effective at this level than he would be in League One.
We don’t need him to play much football at all. However his energy and pressing was key to stopping Birmingham carving through us yesterday.I still think we need a third midfielder in January to play alongside Coventry and Carey, however this is KA’s chance to keep himself in the side.
In L1, we're "big boys" with lots of possession, and expected to break teams down with our quality. Up a level, we're up against teams with bigger budgets and technically better players. Stopping them playing becomes much more important. Pratley was a better player in that role than Karoy due to his experience, but Karoy's energy is definitely an asset.
Baffling why he hasn't featured more this season. There have definitely been games in the last few weeks where we should have packed the midfield more, and make things harder for the opposition to play through us.
No way was our best scorer Carey being dropped earlier in the season and he wasn't going to replace Coventry,0 -
I've sometimes quoted Laurie McMenemy when his underdog Southampton side finished in 2nd place in the top tier:Chunes said:
I remember the "Top teams don't play with a destroyer" line after we let ours go, and his team finished above us in 2nd.DOUCHER said:like i just said about tanto, KA is as brave as they come - goes into challenges with no fear and makes challenges others would get nowhere near to - my son thinks he's the worst player we've ever had and tbh, on the ball, i can see his point but he's the epitomy of a midfield destroyer and there's always room for those, whatever the level.
Agree with you, always room for them. Football seems to be slowly trending back towards physicality and I'll expect we'll see even more prevalence in the coming years.
"To be successful, a team needs 9 virtuoso players and 2 road sweepers".1 -
I think this one is more applicable to NJs style of play. Hopefully we won't be leaving TC playing the piano on his own again.Oggy Red said:
I've sometimes quoted Laurie McMenemy when his underdog Southampton side finished in 2nd place in the top tier:Chunes said:
I remember the "Top teams don't play with a destroyer" line after we let ours go, and his team finished above us in 2nd.DOUCHER said:like i just said about tanto, KA is as brave as they come - goes into challenges with no fear and makes challenges others would get nowhere near to - my son thinks he's the worst player we've ever had and tbh, on the ball, i can see his point but he's the epitomy of a midfield destroyer and there's always room for those, whatever the level.
Agree with you, always room for them. Football seems to be slowly trending back towards physicality and I'll expect we'll see even more prevalence in the coming years.
"To be successful, a team needs 9 virtuoso players and 2 road sweepers".
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Let's hope (and i think he was) Bill was more right than Lawrie - its the 3 who can play the damn thing that Phil Chapple should be scouring the planet for if we are to consolidate and progressScoham said:
I think this one is more applicable to NJs style of play. Hopefully we won't be leaving TC playing the piano on his own again.Oggy Red said:
I've sometimes quoted Laurie McMenemy when his underdog Southampton side finished in 2nd place in the top tier:Chunes said:
I remember the "Top teams don't play with a destroyer" line after we let ours go, and his team finished above us in 2nd.DOUCHER said:like i just said about tanto, KA is as brave as they come - goes into challenges with no fear and makes challenges others would get nowhere near to - my son thinks he's the worst player we've ever had and tbh, on the ball, i can see his point but he's the epitomy of a midfield destroyer and there's always room for those, whatever the level.
Agree with you, always room for them. Football seems to be slowly trending back towards physicality and I'll expect we'll see even more prevalence in the coming years.
"To be successful, a team needs 9 virtuoso players and 2 road sweepers".2 -
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It’s not that baffling, up until the last month Docherty, Coventry and Carey were all having outstanding seasons. We signed a midfielder who’s played in the championship for £750k and he couldn’t get a game either. A lot of people on here were saying we should send Karoy out on loan in the summerkillerandflash said:
Thinking back, Darren Pratley was more effective in the Championship for us then in his first season in L1 also.Laddick01 said:Arguably more effective at this level than he would be in League One.
We don’t need him to play much football at all. However his energy and pressing was key to stopping Birmingham carving through us yesterday.I still think we need a third midfielder in January to play alongside Coventry and Carey, however this is KA’s chance to keep himself in the side.
In L1, we're "big boys" with lots of possession, and expected to break teams down with our quality. Up a level, we're up against teams with bigger budgets and technically better players. Stopping them playing becomes much more important. Pratley was a better player in that role than Karoy due to his experience, but Karoy's energy is definitely an asset.
Baffling why he hasn't featured more this season. There have definitely been games in the last few weeks where we should have packed the midfield more, and make things harder for the opposition to play through us.
He’s had to be patient, but he’s seized his opportunity brilliantly1 -
I think loan to league one might have been the right call. Seems to be going backwards as a player with the lack of consistent game time0
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Loan definitely. He didn't particularly stand out in League One last year, so it isn't a surprise he's found it tough this year.0
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There’s a time and place for Anderson but it’s obvious since he broke through he’s L2 quality on the ball. Scary this is our Coventry replacement1
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The experiment to play him in the deeper role did not work at all. Was genuinely terrible. There is a time and a place for Karoy - his running and energy is valuable at times either against the very best teams or late on protecting a win. But he needs to be in the 8 or 10 position to do it. He is not good enough positionally or on the ball to play deep.7
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Fine as a double pivot next to Coventry, not good enough there on his own
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Whatever the question is, he isn’t the answer at the moment.2
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Which Charlton player started against Sheff Utd today, is also a Jamaican International?DamoNorthStand said:Whatever the question is, he isn’t the answer at the moment.9 -
cantersaddick said:The experiment to play him in the deeper role did not work at all. Was genuinely terrible. There is a time and a place for Karoy - his running and energy is valuable at times either against the very best teams or late on protecting a win. But he needs to be in the 8 or 10 position to do it. He is not good enough positionally or on the ball to play deep.
Totally agree. He doesn't have the positional sense to play the "6" role yet and maybe never will. What isn't helping him is being in and out of the team and even the squad and then being played in different positions in midfield before he has mastered one.
A loan where he can play every week in one position would help his development a lot. In the meantime, I think we need better than him, Doc and probably JRC despite the latter showing some promise.0
