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Karoy Anderson - new contract until 2028 (p23)

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  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,401
    I think your all nuts. He was ok. He was playing non risky safe passes (like prem teams do). Made a couple of mistakes like everyo else. 


  • jakecafc
    jakecafc Posts: 2,145
    Constantly looking to go backwards even against 9 men. Good without the ball, shocking with it. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,975
    2121 said:
    I think your all nuts. He was ok. He was playing non risky safe passes (like prem teams do). Made a couple of mistakes like everyo else. 


    Safe passes aren't what we want/need when we're playing 9 men and on the edge of their box. One point he got the ball laid off to him, maximum 25 yards out and with space infront, and his first move was to spin around away from goal and pass backwards 20 yards to Jones
  • He was shite and if Coventry were ever out for any long period of time we’re in serious trouble.

    Seriously hope we bring in another CM in the next week or so. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,112
    He was shite and if Coventry were ever out for any long period of time we’re in serious trouble.

    Seriously hope we bring in another CM in the next week or so. 
    I think we’d see Doc cover Cov rather than Anderson start every week.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,401
    Nuts 
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,582
    edited January 17
    Scoham said:
    He was shite and if Coventry were ever out for any long period of time we’re in serious trouble.

    Seriously hope we bring in another CM in the next week or so. 
    I think we’d see Doc cover Cov rather than Anderson start every week.
    I agree but Docs not good enough either really is he. We need more quality in midfield. 
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,950
    Played a couple of really good passes, one blinder. Won the ball a couple of times up the pitch

    Needs more football as otherwise looked like he was about to shit himself every time the ball came near him and mishit some very easy passes.


  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,916
    I like Karoy, but his decision making isn’t good enough at this level, you want him to put energy in with 15 to go, but not to dictate a game 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,060
    edited January 17
    2121 said:
    I think your all nuts. He was ok. He was playing non risky safe passes (like prem teams do). Made a couple of mistakes like everyo else. 


    People really do watch a different game don't they. 

    He gave the ball away multiple times and even managed to put a simple 3 yard pass out for a throw in. He was a liability in the first half.

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,756
    Anderson can't play as a 6, as he gets caught in possession too often, and in incredibly dangerous positions, near our goal 

    He needs to be further up the pitch, where his energy and pressing can be an asset. And where his poor distribution is less likely to give opponents chances to break.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,926
    2121 said:
    I think your all nuts. He was ok. He was playing non risky safe passes (like prem teams do). Made a couple of mistakes like everyo else. 


    His safe passes were invariably bad passes. He's a headless chicken and needs consistent football at a lower level to see if he can improve.
  • fenaddick said:
    Fine as a double pivot next to Coventry, not good enough there on his own
    Agree. Him and JRC just didn't work today. One of them can take the Doc roll, but neither of them can play the Cov roll.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 907
    Unfortunately for Karoy he’s at his best when he doesn’t have the ball, that’s not ideal for a footballer. He needs to start looking forward and be more precise with his passing, and if there is space to run into with the ball, then do it!!. He has the physical attributes to do that.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,025
    Played a couple of really good passes, one blinder. Won the ball a couple of times up the pitch

    Needs more football as otherwise looked like he was about to shit himself every time the ball came near him and mishit some very easy passes.


     Not sure you can put a lack of minutes down to Anderson’s passing. He broke into the first team 3 years ago and despite developing well in terms of his physicality and off the ball work I don’t think he’s improved at all technically 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,786
    edited January 17
    He was too high, too left, or too right, and over committed in dangerous areas where he should have backed off. He was all over the place. 

    Can understand why NJ started him because Sheff Utd had a lot of physicality and Conor has been struggling against the more physical midfielders, but Karoy is definitely not ready for that kind of opposition. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 14,571
    Going to suggest everyone has a look at the second half of page 24 and the first half of page 25. A reminder of Curbs old advice to not get too high with the highs and too low with the lows 
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,129
    For every good thing Anderson does he has 2 to 3 bad things to undo it. This isn't a new criticism of him either. It's been consistent in his career so far.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,975
    My biggest issue with him is his passing. Almost always puts the ball behind the man when we are breaking etc.

    I think there’s a player in there, but it’s not at CDM.
  • Needs a full season in league one (not with us), not ready for the Championship and that is clear for all to see.

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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,404
    His technique in possession is very poor. Feels like the ball is in control of him when he receives to feet. 

    Also, amazed the ref didn't blow for a penalty in the first half when he blatantly pushed their attacker with two hands on the back as he was about to shoot. A penalty all day long. 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,788
    He was ropey first half but much better second half. Don’t think the deep position is his strength as he’s not the outlet for the defence in the way Coventry is. If we’re talking midfielders though, JRC didn’t make much of a contribution either. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,168
    He has poor technique and his passing is very poor, his only real attribute is his energy. Unfortunately, in my opinion, he’ll never be a Championship level player.
  • The biggest concern is he hasn’t improved his ball control in the almost three years he has been in the squad which is why the best thing for him is a loan where he will play consistently even through the rough patches.  There is too much for us at stake right now for that to be with us
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,116
    You can teach/coach a player with good technical and passing skills how to be more physical and intense in a press much easier than you can teach an athletically gifted player how to be a varied passer and technician.

    I do think Anderson has got a place in the squad, but it's probably not as a starting player and it's definitely not as a defensive midfielder in the Coventry role.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,401
    I rate anderson (needs more gametime for experience), but can agree that maybe his role needs to change until he matures. Maybe he comes on for our attacking midfielder when we are defending a lead to press from the front 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 907
    2121 said:
    I rate anderson (needs more gametime for experience), but can agree that maybe his role needs to change until he matures. Maybe he comes on for our attacking midfielder when we are defending a lead to press from the front 
    I also rate him,,,, generally a 4 out of 10!!  
  • If we stay up I suspect he will find it harder to get minutes next season as we (would presumably) seek to continue improving the squad. If we get relegated then he probably has a part to play in the squad.

    As someone else said, I think it is easier to turn a player who is technically gifted into a more physical player. Karoy has never looked technically gifted to me and is certainly not improving in that regard. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,092
    If we stay up i'd definitely move him on. He's not a Championship player but now has a few Championship appearances under his belt , all be it not great ones. 
  • Ran around like a headless chicken yesterday and got easily pulled out of position which united did repeatedly. Always takes the safe option which can be frustrating, sometimes you need a calculated risk from your central midfielder, hopefully that will come. He’ll burst into life at some points and put in a brilliant Parker-esque challenge and you think “this could be some player” but rarely follows it with more or a ball forward. 

    A league one loan and regular first team football is an absolute must for me, however this also means us bringing in another central midfielder as well…