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  • Major said:
    Sword65pf said:
    cafcfan said:
    I'll repeat what I said earlier, Apter has had a bust up with Jones and won't play for Charlton again. (Unless Jones goes first presumably.)
    Maybe they both need to be grownups and get on with it. 
    Apter signed on to play football.  Being happy to sit around doing bugger all, while less talented players get in the team is what you'd call grown up?
    I think Apter has every right to be pissed off and to let Jones know it.
    Depends if he's doing as Jones is asking him though
    If he's not doing that, and is throwing a strop because he cant get into the team, then its not the attitude of someone you want around. Its easy to say: "bust up / Jones' fault" but there are a lot of blanks in there that we dont know
    Apter also came through the Youth game, and should know how few do make it
    So should also count his blessings
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,580
    Major said:
    Sword65pf said:
    cafcfan said:
    I'll repeat what I said earlier, Apter has had a bust up with Jones and won't play for Charlton again. (Unless Jones goes first presumably.)
    Maybe they both need to be grownups and get on with it. 
    Apter signed on to play football.  Being happy to sit around doing bugger all, while less talented players get in the team is what you'd call grown up?
    I think Apter has every right to be pissed off and to let Jones know it.
    Mmmm well that was a load of bollocks wasn't it !
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 977
    Major said:
    Sword65pf said:
    cafcfan said:
    I'll repeat what I said earlier, Apter has had a bust up with Jones and won't play for Charlton again. (Unless Jones goes first presumably.)
    Maybe they both need to be grownups and get on with it. 
    Apter signed on to play football.  Being happy to sit around doing bugger all, while less talented players get in the team is what you'd call grown up?
    I think Apter has every right to be pissed off and to let Jones know it.
    Ok you are right👍
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 14,763
    wolfgang said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Sam Field running the game against Nottingham Forest was one of the best halves of football I’ve ever seen us play. 

    I quite liked him even if he wasn’t very flashy.
    Was that the match where Oztumer looked like Messi for 30 minutes?
    He’s a player I inexplicably loved despite the evidence in front of my eyes 
  • wolfgang said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Sam Field running the game against Nottingham Forest was one of the best halves of football I’ve ever seen us play. 

    I quite liked him even if he wasn’t very flashy.
    Was that the match where Oztumer looked like Messi for 30 minutes?
    The game where Oztumer showed what he did for Dulwich every week. Obviously much lower level and his physical disadvantages were obvious but at a technical level he was unreal. 
  • I would love to watch that 45 mins v Forest back in full 
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,640
    I would love to watch that 45 mins v Forest back in full 
    https://youtu.be/Btn7rc9jTNs?si=_K7XqLwoWwlJQ1vo
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 24,384
    Very strange take on a player not being involved in the squad, for whatever reason we have no idea, but apparently "he's had a bust up with Nathan"...I mean how does anyone really know the reason, but no, come up with this answer as if it's fact...🤷‍♂️
  • Willo
    Willo Posts: 62
    edited January 23
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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,635
    wolfgang said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Sam Field running the game against Nottingham Forest was one of the best halves of football I’ve ever seen us play. 

    I quite liked him even if he wasn’t very flashy.
    Was that the match where Oztumer looked like Messi for 30 minutes?
    And Oshilaja looked like Cafu

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  • Being reported up here in Yorkshire that Barry Bannon is off to Millwall. Horrible git but good signing for Millwall and will help consolidate their playoff position. 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,361
    Major said:
    Sword65pf said:
    cafcfan said:
    I'll repeat what I said earlier, Apter has had a bust up with Jones and won't play for Charlton again. (Unless Jones goes first presumably.)
    Maybe they both need to be grownups and get on with it. 
    Apter signed on to play football.  Being happy to sit around doing bugger all, while less talented players get in the team is what you'd call grown up?
    I think Apter has every right to be pissed off and to let Jones know it.
    No.
    What the grown up thing to do is to knock on the managers door and find out what the manager wants from you and then work hard to deliver that improvement.
    The suggestion that players have some sort of right to decide that they are more talented and can then throw their toys out of the pram if they are not picked is quite frankly ridiculous.
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,117
    I seem to remember that Apter and TC, inverted wingers, were once used as WBs on their proper foot and both had good games. Who against or am I imagining it?

    Tyreece was pretty solid vs Chelsea.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,420
    As Redknapp once said  the players who are playing love you, the rest hate you. 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,601
    edited January 23
    In this submission i will make 2 points, a) and b), as follows:

    a) Quite an interesting, short discussion today on Kerrydalestreet, Celtic fan site, (https://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/january-transfer-window-give-mon-the-players-he-ne-t144108-s8520.html) where they discuss prospects of getting Fofana and Rak-Sakyi in together. An extract is below.
    What a great combination they could be for any side. Guess we are out of the hunt for similar (financial?) reasons though Fofana had agreed to come to us before so why not again?

    b) Separately, how many loan slots can we fill out of interest?

    Celticbhoy_07 wrote: 1:56 PM - Today
    Hagi Bhoy wrote: 1:09 PM - TodayThe issue with guys like Fofana, Asprilla and Rak-Sakyi is that they'll have plenty of options and probably no rush to do anything.

    You could say well make them an offer they can't refuse but that's probably not the solution either.

    Fofana had a chance to come before and chose Charlton. Rak Sakyi was on the verge of joining Swansea last week. So we might need to be patient.
    This is something that gets mentioned a lot in windows as some kind of excuse for us not doing much.

    Fofana has spent the last 5 months playing for the team at the bottom of the Turkish league before that he’s been at Burnley and Goztepe. Rak-Sakyi likewise playing for a below average Turkish side and prior to that spells at Sheff Utd & Charlton.

    The reason it’s not happening is our reluctance to commit to spending money. Nothing to do with players having better options elsewhere. Pay the money and the wages and they’d have been here a fortnight ago.
    Every penny is a prisoner with this lot. But they could give everyone a huge lift ahead of Hearts and going into Utrecht by freeing those pennies and saying we're backing the manager, here are another two deals done and dusted. It wouldnt change the underlying problems but it'd quickly help everyone to come together and push us on.
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 1,810
    wolfgang said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Sam Field running the game against Nottingham Forest was one of the best halves of football I’ve ever seen us play. 

    I quite liked him even if he wasn’t very flashy.
    Was that the match where Oztumer looked like Messi for 30 minutes?
    And Oshilaja looked like Cafu
    Bafflingly the only time we played Oshilaja at RB, very confused.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,635
    DDOUBLEE said:
    wolfgang said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Sam Field running the game against Nottingham Forest was one of the best halves of football I’ve ever seen us play. 

    I quite liked him even if he wasn’t very flashy.
    Was that the match where Oztumer looked like Messi for 30 minutes?
    And Oshilaja looked like Cafu
    Bafflingly the only time we played Oshilaja at RB, very confused.
    We played him there a few times. He was there the game before and after but he got injured against Brentford I think. Missed a couple of games, came back in at RB against Wigan where he was back to normal terrible Deji. I think he came on at RWB against Cardiff later in the season as well. By the time he played against Wigan we brought in Matthews who was good in the Championship, especially later in the season when he needed another contract. Bowyer got weirdly into playing him at LB after it worked once and otherwise generally put him at DM where he did less damage than he did at centre back, where he was a friendly-fire wrecking ball
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 24,384
    Being reported up here in Yorkshire that Barry Bannon is off to Millwall. Horrible git but good signing for Millwall and will help consolidate their playoff position. 
    Well suited...
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,846
    Being reported up here in Yorkshire that Barry Bannon is off to Millwall. Horrible git but good signing for Millwall and will help consolidate their playoff position. 
    Made for each other. Shithouse signing for a shithouse team.
  • ossie64
    ossie64 Posts: 16
    NabySarr said:
    Apter in particular has been unlucky. If it wasn’t for the fact we haven’t had a LWB since Josh’s injury then Apter would have had a lot more game time. There is definitely a good player in there. We have him on a four year deal and he will prove his worth well before that. 
    Agree with this but I also think our fanbase is massively overrating Apter. Classic case of a player becoming better in people’s minds because he’s not playing. 

    I like him but I really don’t think he’s good enough to transform us like most seem to think he is. He was alright against Oxford but in his 2 starts before that he was awful. I think he’s similar to a lot of our players, great in league 1, capable of good moments in the championship but not consistent enough yet to be a key player 
    a lot of the fanbase massively overrate Campbell too. The last sentence could also relate to him 

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  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,713
    I would love to watch that 45 mins v Forest back in full 
    https://youtu.be/Btn7rc9jTNs?si=_K7XqLwoWwlJQ1vo
    No way he watches it lol 
  • Being reported up here in Yorkshire that Barry Bannon is off to Millwall. Horrible git but good signing for Millwall and will help consolidate their playoff position. 
    He is old, shit and legs have gone. Crap corners and crap free kicks.  It's a weird/poor transfer by Millwall. Good.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,867
    Nicholas said:
    I would love to watch that 45 mins v Forest back in full 
    https://youtu.be/Btn7rc9jTNs?si=_K7XqLwoWwlJQ1vo
    No way he watches it lol 
    I'm watching it now. That striker with the Guinness hair was rather decent, shame he was such a dick in the end. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,867
    No idea why on earth it's in 4:3 as opposed to 16:9
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,867
    Dazzler21 said:
    Nicholas said:
    I would love to watch that 45 mins v Forest back in full 
    https://youtu.be/Btn7rc9jTNs?si=_K7XqLwoWwlJQ1vo
    No way he watches it lol 
    I'm watching it now. That striker with the Guinness hair was rather decent, shame he was such a dick in the end. 
    Finished it. Forgot it was a 1-1 draw. A very decent first half but typically we allowed the opposition to really push us back second half. Leko got worse as the game went on and Cullen got better. Field was lucky to not be sent off and Taylor as much as it pains me to say it was the best forward we've had in years, Godden the close second... Not sure who is third you have to go back probably to Kermorgant who then nicks the no.1 spot. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,810
    I have much stronger memories of the away game vs Forest, LT scoring from a glorious cross from Naby, the only away win I saw in 11 attempts that season! 

    Such a great result, after the bad run, and underwhelming January business. I really thought that night we'd push on to safety.
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,059
    Redrobo said:
    Major said:
    Sword65pf said:
    cafcfan said:
    I'll repeat what I said earlier, Apter has had a bust up with Jones and won't play for Charlton again. (Unless Jones goes first presumably.)
    Maybe they both need to be grownups and get on with it. 
    Apter signed on to play football.  Being happy to sit around doing bugger all, while less talented players get in the team is what you'd call grown up?
    I think Apter has every right to be pissed off and to let Jones know it.
    No.
    What the grown up thing to do is to knock on the managers door and find out what the manager wants from you and then work hard to deliver that improvement.
    The suggestion that players have some sort of right to decide that they are more talented and can then throw their toys out of the pram if they are not picked is quite frankly ridiculous.
    You have no idea what conversations took place. Either to persuade him to sign, or since. All I know is, he is a young talent being ignored. I get why he would want a word with the Manager. If he did that, I wonder if said Manager was grown up about it.
  • Major said:
    Redrobo said:
    Major said:
    Sword65pf said:
    cafcfan said:
    I'll repeat what I said earlier, Apter has had a bust up with Jones and won't play for Charlton again. (Unless Jones goes first presumably.)
    Maybe they both need to be grownups and get on with it. 
    Apter signed on to play football.  Being happy to sit around doing bugger all, while less talented players get in the team is what you'd call grown up?
    I think Apter has every right to be pissed off and to let Jones know it.
    No.
    What the grown up thing to do is to knock on the managers door and find out what the manager wants from you and then work hard to deliver that improvement.
    The suggestion that players have some sort of right to decide that they are more talented and can then throw their toys out of the pram if they are not picked is quite frankly ridiculous.
    You have no idea what conversations took place. Either to persuade him to sign, or since. All I know is, he is a young talent being ignored. I get why he would want a word with the Manager. If he did that, I wonder if said Manager was grown up about it.
    So how do you know that Apter has every right to be pissed off, if you dont know what conversations have taken place?
  • Our most successful manager of recent times used to target young, talented players who were hungry and angry.  Sounds like Apter to me. We are trying to move him on if the rumours are true.
  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,165
    follett said:
    I think Apter’s biggest problem was that he just doesn’t fit the system Jones wants to play which is why it’s baffling he was signed. I know he won player of the month but I thought he struggled at the defensive side of being a RWB and was helped massively by having Ramsay to cover him. Thought he really struggled in the Millwall game and it wasn’t a surprise to see Bree come in and replace him from there on in really. Once that happened it was difficult to get him back in the team given the system we play.

    TC isnt much better at LWB but we just don’t really have another option there and for me TC does offer more than Apter. 

    Completely baffling bit of recruitment though. Hoping it can still come good for him 
    I don't find Apter's recruitment that confusing at all. In Small we had a left-footed defender with pace who terrified defences cutting in but tended to shit the bed when it came to the final ball. He got 3 assists and 2 goals, both with his right foot when he didn't have time to think about the strike. With Apter the plan was obviously to get someone who had the goals and assists in him already and then train the defensive side into him, which is far more Jones' specialty than training attacking play. Apter made a good start, he was putting himself about and working hard. His effort dipped a bit defensively though and then he had a few games where he didn't leave his foot in, didn't bother chasing back and let players ghost past him. Jones hates that, McIntyre was allowed to make two mistakes - daft handball against Northampton, terrible missed tackle against Lincoln - and was never seen again. Apter had a poor game defensively at QPR, wasted possession when we were in the ascendancy against Millwall, didn't offer much against Hull and then bottled too many challenges against Saints. He's a long term project but I hope Jones gives him some more opportunities this season. Apter is an exciting player, he just has to be willing to learn the defensive side of the game and he'll become a better player for it. The transfer strategy was clear and he has plenty of time yet to come good
    Fair enough, that’s a decent analysis of it. I don’t really disagree