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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 24,439
    edited January 26
    7 days and counting...everyone nice and relaxed are we...😉

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcZe2jJdgcU...
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,997
    elbiglad said:
    So - what is the preferred alternative for Tanto and Apter? If Jones doesn't rate them and won't play them, do we just leave them to rot on the bench or worse out of the squad? Surely we'd rather they be playing regularly - and if so, it makes sense for them to do so in environments they are comfortable in and have thrived in.

    Clearly the signings haven't panned out the way we / the club would've hoped. But don't compound bad decisions with more bad decisions. Let them go and play, let us use the squad spots on people Jones fancies. I get being annoyed that the signings haven't worked out, but this feels like much ado about nothing.

    Only Jones really knows what he thinks of them. If he doesn’t trust them then of course get them out on loan and bring new players in 

    With Apter I’m not sure that’s the case. Once we sort the left side of defence out I’m sure he will be playing a lot more again. I’d be surprised if we let him go unless we’ve got a great attacking right wing back signing 

    Tanto is one where I think he could leave, and I don’t think it would be a big loss tbh 
  • I’m afraid to say these owners are highly unlikely going to put their hands in their pockets. We need four permanent signings not loans because we are currently a very poor championship team. We have zero chance to stay up! Rumours now mean nothing & I have only one conclusion and that is this current ownership group will leave once we drop down to league 1. We still don’t own any assets and we’re back to where we started. Absolutely fuming! 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,193
    I’m afraid to say these owners are highly unlikely going to put their hands in their pockets. We need four permanent signings not loans because we are currently a very poor championship team. We have zero chance to stay up! Rumours now mean nothing & I have only one conclusion and that is this current ownership group will leave once we drop down to league 1. We still don’t own any assets and we’re back to where we started. Absolutely fuming! 

  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,799
    edited January 26
    I’m afraid to say these owners are highly unlikely going to put their hands in their pockets. We need four permanent signings not loans because we are currently a very poor championship team. We have zero chance to stay up! Rumours now mean nothing & I have only one conclusion and that is this current ownership group will leave once we drop down to league 1. We still don’t own any assets and we’re back to where we started. Absolutely fuming! 
    No they won’t cause it’s a 4/5 year plan .. the amount of work and money that gone in to rebuilding the structure of the club .. they will want to see it through , that’s why Jones got  a 5 year deal .. he will still be in  the job this season and next whatever happens .. think reality has to kick in some point .. we in a tough league where 8 teams are living of parachute money .. even spending 12 mill last summer and another 20 ready to go this summer that still no where near enough for the championship nowadays .. fact is 4th from bottom this season will be the biggest achievement this club has archived for many many years .. we all know we were not ready for the championship yet the .. but we are in it and we have to try and stay there if we can .. but you can now see why there been so many yo yo clubs ..who use the parachute money from championship to league  one to add  again to get promoted back are are stronger for it …
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,701
    Don’t get this negativity towards the owners backed NJ financially in the summer (not all of which have worked to date) and NJ has said they continue to support him this window. It seems that some of our fan base will not be happy unless we are spending millions and millions at every opportunity 
    Tbf I think criticism towards the ownership is limited. There is however more criticism towards Jones.
  • Don’t get this negativity towards the owners backed NJ financially in the summer (not all of which have worked to date) and NJ has said they continue to support him this window. It seems that some of our fan base will not be happy unless we are spending millions and millions at every opportunity 
    Do you understand and realise the severity of this week? If we get relegated which looks highly likely financially where do we go here? League 1 we lose how many million? It’s imperative these owners spend to buy quality this week otherwise we’re relegated. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,941
    edited January 26
    Why would an ownership group be leaving that's paying merchant banks a substantial fee to find additional long term investment? I still think the budget is there for the right player and I wouldn't be surprised if we've had to pay Liverpool and Ipswich loan fees for Chambers and Clarke already. 

    Are we going to drop £5-10m in the last week of the window? Probably not , but I would expect there's a couple of permanent signings. Let Birmingham and Wrexham throw money around like confetti. 

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  • I think dropping big money (for us) on a player that won't get a sniff of first team football when we get a couple of injuries is a pretty poor stratergy when we knew we would be in a relegation battle. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,941
    Roussillon joins Amiens in the French second division. 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,607
    I’m afraid to say these owners are highly unlikely going to put their hands in their pockets. We need four permanent signings not loans because we are currently a very poor championship team. We have zero chance to stay up! Rumours now mean nothing & I have only one conclusion and that is this current ownership group will leave once we drop down to league 1. We still don’t own any assets and we’re back to where we started. Absolutely fuming! 
    No they won’t cause it’s a 4/5 year plan .. the amount of work and money that gone in to rebuilding the structure of the club .. they will want to see it through , that’s why Jones got  a 5 year deal .. he will in still be in  job this season and next whatever happens .. 

    Yes but now there's a downturn they could be running scared. We will find out in a matter of days then the asset stripping begins as they seek to recoup some losses, moving on Apter and tanto could be just the start.
    Rose tinted brigade will be last to see it but not me and not my two new friends here.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,997
    Is money spent on a transfer fee even a good indicator for how good the signing is? Looking at our squad the opposite is probably true. 

    There will be players available in the next 7 days on loan or cheap that have championship experience, signings like Clarke and Dyke are what we need,  not necessarily ones that will cost 7 figure transfer fees 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,856
    Don’t get this negativity towards the owners backed NJ financially in the summer (not all of which have worked to date) and NJ has said they continue to support him this window. It seems that some of our fan base will not be happy unless we are spending millions and millions at every opportunity 
    For what's it worth I dont mind the signings we made. Ive also said that we can do enough to stay up based on earlier performances but we didn't sign all we needed too, is that us not paying enough in fees or in wages or are we not an attractive enough proposition to try bring in the bigger hitters?

    But with the signings we have made, we can afford to be flexible in our shape and we aren't. Bell was a hazard to play at LWB so we play him there with no proper cover if/when he gets injured. NJ could have switched to a back 4 earlier (Bree could also play LB) and then played with wingers, which we have an abundance of but it doesn't happen because of outright stubbornness.

    We have needed pragmatism to give us the best chance of survival and we haven't had that at all. 
  • Don’t get this negativity towards the owners backed NJ financially in the summer (not all of which have worked to date) and NJ has said they continue to support him this window. It seems that some of our fan base will not be happy unless we are spending millions and millions at every opportunity 
    Do you understand and realise the severity of this week? If we get relegated which looks highly likely financially where do we go here? League 1 we lose how many million? It’s imperative these owners spend to buy quality this week otherwise we’re relegated. 
    Yes fully understand the importance of this week it would be a disaster if relegated for so many reason and personally hopeful the board will supply the money needed to help us avoid it.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,997
    Don’t get this negativity towards the owners backed NJ financially in the summer (not all of which have worked to date) and NJ has said they continue to support him this window. It seems that some of our fan base will not be happy unless we are spending millions and millions at every opportunity 
    For what's it worth I dont mind the signings we made. Ive also said that we can do enough to stay up based on earlier performances but we didn't sign all we needed too, is that us not paying enough in fees or in wages or are we not an attractive enough proposition to try bring in the bigger hitters?

    But with the signings we have made, we can afford to be flexible in our shape and we aren't. Bell was a hazard to play at LWB so we play him there with no proper cover if/when he gets injured. NJ could have switched to a back 4 earlier (Bree could also play LB) and then played with wingers, which we have an abundance of but it doesn't happen because of outright stubbornness.

    We have needed pragmatism to give us the best chance of survival and we haven't had that at all. 
    I think the Bree performance at left back last week showed that he really can’t play left back. Ramsay has struggled there also when we’ve moved him there. It’s not like we haven’t tried these things to solve our left side issue

    Our abundance of wingers is actually just 2 players. Neither proven at this level to provide the goal/assist output we’d need from them in that kind of setup, and if either needed subbing you’ve got to play Fullah or Tanto out of position 

    We’ve switched formation so many times the last few months. The problem wasn’t Jones pragmatism or flexibility, the problem was we didn’t have a left back so literally nothing we tried worked! 
  • Don’t get this negativity towards the owners backed NJ financially in the summer (not all of which have worked to date) and NJ has said they continue to support him this window. It seems that some of our fan base will not be happy unless we are spending millions and millions at every opportunity 
    Spot on, a lot of it comes from a small but vocal ill-informed and unrealistic minority like Golfie. The owners want to build and grow the club in a sustainable way and not throw millions at it gambling on instant success. It will take this season and possibly next before we grow our BOTTOM THREE BUDGET, sorry had to use caps as so many people just don’t get it. It’s going to be painful this season and possibly next before three seasons of Championship income translates into Championship quality players in most positions. I’d say get behind the team and manager as this chance may not come along for a while, remember how long we were languishing in L1!
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,280
    NabySarr said:
    elbiglad said:
    So - what is the preferred alternative for Tanto and Apter? If Jones doesn't rate them and won't play them, do we just leave them to rot on the bench or worse out of the squad? Surely we'd rather they be playing regularly - and if so, it makes sense for them to do so in environments they are comfortable in and have thrived in.

    Clearly the signings haven't panned out the way we / the club would've hoped. But don't compound bad decisions with more bad decisions. Let them go and play, let us use the squad spots on people Jones fancies. I get being annoyed that the signings haven't worked out, but this feels like much ado about nothing.

    Only Jones really knows what he thinks of them. If he doesn’t trust them then of course get them out on loan and bring new players in 

    With Apter I’m not sure that’s the case. Once we sort the left side of defence out I’m sure he will be playing a lot more again. I’d be surprised if we let him go unless we’ve got a great attacking right wing back signing 

    Tanto is one where I think he could leave, and I don’t think it would be a big loss tbh 
    I'm glad someone is optimistic.

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  • CAFCBourne
    CAFCBourne Posts: 3,832
    MarcusH26 said:
    Roussillon joins Amiens in the French second division. 

    Plays full 90 this weekend
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,603
    MarcusH26 said:
    Roussillon joins Amiens in the French second division. 
    Amen to that.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,941
    MarcusH26 said:
    Roussillon joins Amiens in the French second division. 

    Plays full 90 this weekend
    Honestly going to keep an eye out and see if he plays 😂
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,856
    NabySarr said:
    Don’t get this negativity towards the owners backed NJ financially in the summer (not all of which have worked to date) and NJ has said they continue to support him this window. It seems that some of our fan base will not be happy unless we are spending millions and millions at every opportunity 
    For what's it worth I dont mind the signings we made. Ive also said that we can do enough to stay up based on earlier performances but we didn't sign all we needed too, is that us not paying enough in fees or in wages or are we not an attractive enough proposition to try bring in the bigger hitters?

    But with the signings we have made, we can afford to be flexible in our shape and we aren't. Bell was a hazard to play at LWB so we play him there with no proper cover if/when he gets injured. NJ could have switched to a back 4 earlier (Bree could also play LB) and then played with wingers, which we have an abundance of but it doesn't happen because of outright stubbornness.

    We have needed pragmatism to give us the best chance of survival and we haven't had that at all. 
    I think the Bree performance at left back last week showed that he really can’t play left back. Ramsay has struggled there also when we’ve moved him there. It’s not like we haven’t tried these things to solve our left side issue

    Our abundance of wingers is actually just 2 players. Neither proven at this level to provide the goal/assist output we’d need from them in that kind of setup, and if either needed subbing you’ve got to play Fullah or Tanto out of position 

    We’ve switched formation so many times the last few months. The problem wasn’t Jones pragmatism or flexibility, the problem was we didn’t have a left back so literally nothing we tried worked! 
    Dont think we have changed systems much have we? I agree the left side has been an issue, clearly as day. It is worth noting we signed Rousillion and never actually played him then putting TC, Fullah and others in that position. I refuse to believe that one position is the reason for our downfall. We cant score goals either and that isnt down to the left side. I also think Bree would be better in a flat 4 at LB.

    For me we have 4 (5 if Hernandez stays) Tanto, TC, Fullah and Apter. 

    I dont think there has been enough pragmatism. Just shoehorning players instead of trying to adapt.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,230
    I’m afraid to say these owners are highly unlikely going to put their hands in their pockets. We need four permanent signings not loans because we are currently a very poor championship team. We have zero chance to stay up! Rumours now mean nothing & I have only one conclusion and that is this current ownership group will leave once we drop down to league 1. We still don’t own any assets and we’re back to where we started. Absolutely fuming! 
    No they won’t cause it’s a 4/5 year plan .. the amount of work and money that gone in to rebuilding the structure of the club .. they will want to see it through , that’s why Jones got  a 5 year deal .. he will still be in  the job this season and next whatever happens .. think reality has to kick in some point .. we in a tough league where 8 teams are living of parachute money .. even spending 12 mill last summer and another 20 ready to go this summer that still no where near enough for the championship nowadays .. fact is 4th from bottom this season will be the biggest achievement this club has archived for many many years .. we all know we were not ready for the championship yet the .. but we are in it and we have to try and stay there if we can .. but you can now see why there been so many yo yo clubs ..who use the parachute money from championship to league  one to add  again to get promoted back are are stronger for it …
    20m ready to go this summer? Better to spend some of it now and stay in the Championship. They won’t be spending nowhere near twenty bob if we end up back in League One.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,195
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Birmingham about to spend £7m on a player. 
    Which shows what we’ve been up against. I’d wager it’s never happened before that 2 of the 3 promoted sides spend like they have. Wednesday’s deduction sort of negates one of them but it’s a reminder that the Championship
    isnt “normal” this season
    this is the new normal in the chanpionship can only see it getting more absurd
    Don't buy that. There's no way Lincoln, Bradford or Stockport are spending £7m on one player. Cardiff maybe at a push but that seems unlikely too. Birmingham and Wrexham are definite outliers
    I agree entirely, which makes staying up so much more important, next year will be ‘easier’ with weaker teams coming up
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Why would an ownership group be leaving that's paying merchant banks a substantial fee to find additional long term investment? I still think the budget is there for the right player and I wouldn't be surprised if we've had to pay Liverpool and Ipswich loan fees for Chambers and Clarke already. 

    Are we going to drop £5-10m in the last week of the window? Probably not , but I would expect there's a couple of permanent signings. Let Birmingham and Wrexham throw money around like confetti. 

    The Southampton player his club would have been grateful that we’ll give him game time after no competitive football all season. The Liverpool youth player with little or no championship experience and recovering from a serious injury. Absolutely no loan fee’s for these two!

    I also hear the Liverpool player was way down on our list of preferences. We needed players fit & ready to go not this type! I’ve been a supporter for many years so not sure I need your guidance on how Charlton should be run! 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,997
    edited January 26
    NabySarr said:
    Don’t get this negativity towards the owners backed NJ financially in the summer (not all of which have worked to date) and NJ has said they continue to support him this window. It seems that some of our fan base will not be happy unless we are spending millions and millions at every opportunity 
    For what's it worth I dont mind the signings we made. Ive also said that we can do enough to stay up based on earlier performances but we didn't sign all we needed too, is that us not paying enough in fees or in wages or are we not an attractive enough proposition to try bring in the bigger hitters?

    But with the signings we have made, we can afford to be flexible in our shape and we aren't. Bell was a hazard to play at LWB so we play him there with no proper cover if/when he gets injured. NJ could have switched to a back 4 earlier (Bree could also play LB) and then played with wingers, which we have an abundance of but it doesn't happen because of outright stubbornness.

    We have needed pragmatism to give us the best chance of survival and we haven't had that at all. 
    I think the Bree performance at left back last week showed that he really can’t play left back. Ramsay has struggled there also when we’ve moved him there. It’s not like we haven’t tried these things to solve our left side issue

    Our abundance of wingers is actually just 2 players. Neither proven at this level to provide the goal/assist output we’d need from them in that kind of setup, and if either needed subbing you’ve got to play Fullah or Tanto out of position 

    We’ve switched formation so many times the last few months. The problem wasn’t Jones pragmatism or flexibility, the problem was we didn’t have a left back so literally nothing we tried worked! 
    Dont think we have changed systems much have we? I agree the left side has been an issue, clearly as day. It is worth noting we signed Rousillion and never actually played him then putting TC, Fullah and others in that position. I refuse to believe that one position is the reason for our downfall. We cant score goals either and that isnt down to the left side. I also think Bree would be better in a flat 4 at LB.

    For me we have 4 (5 if Hernandez stays) Tanto, TC, Fullah and Apter. 

    I dont think there has been enough pragmatism. Just shoehorning players instead of trying to adapt.
    Some games, including Saturday, we played 3 different systems in one game. Think against Southampton we did 3 in 1 half. We started a back 4 against Boro and it was a disaster until we changed to a 3 again 

    Fullah isn’t really a winger, struggled there on Saturday. Tanto definitely isn’t unless you are chasing a game. You’d be relying on TC and Apter to start every game and play every minute, TC can probably do that but I’m not sure Apter can and if either aren’t playing the drop off in quality to the next options is a huge one. 

    I think the downfall is due to one position. Without a balanced team with a proper left side, it all falls apart and we can’t attack in the way we did early season and last season.  Yes the rest of the team has issues and isn’t perfect, but it would do a job that keeps us up with a proper left side 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,101
    edited January 26
     
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,280
    NabySarr said:
    Don’t get this negativity towards the owners backed NJ financially in the summer (not all of which have worked to date) and NJ has said they continue to support him this window. It seems that some of our fan base will not be happy unless we are spending millions and millions at every opportunity 
    For what's it worth I dont mind the signings we made. Ive also said that we can do enough to stay up based on earlier performances but we didn't sign all we needed too, is that us not paying enough in fees or in wages or are we not an attractive enough proposition to try bring in the bigger hitters?

    But with the signings we have made, we can afford to be flexible in our shape and we aren't. Bell was a hazard to play at LWB so we play him there with no proper cover if/when he gets injured. NJ could have switched to a back 4 earlier (Bree could also play LB) and then played with wingers, which we have an abundance of but it doesn't happen because of outright stubbornness.

    We have needed pragmatism to give us the best chance of survival and we haven't had that at all. 
    I think the Bree performance at left back last week showed that he really can’t play left back. Ramsay has struggled there also when we’ve moved him there. It’s not like we haven’t tried these things to solve our left side issue

    Our abundance of wingers is actually just 2 players. Neither proven at this level to provide the goal/assist output we’d need from them in that kind of setup, and if either needed subbing you’ve got to play Fullah or Tanto out of position 

    We’ve switched formation so many times the last few months. The problem wasn’t Jones pragmatism or flexibility, the problem was we didn’t have a left back so literally nothing we tried worked! 
    Dont think we have changed systems much have we? I agree the left side has been an issue, clearly as day. It is worth noting we signed Rousillion and never actually played him then putting TC, Fullah and others in that position. I refuse to believe that one position is the reason for our downfall. We cant score goals either and that isnt down to the left side. I also think Bree would be better in a flat 4 at LB.

    For me we have 4 (5 if Hernandez stays) Tanto, TC, Fullah and Apter. 

    I dont think there has been enough pragmatism. Just shoehorning players instead of trying to adapt.
    We haven't been able to score goals all season, but when the defence was solid it wasn't so much of an issue.