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  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,582
    I see Radacanu has split with her coach, Francisco Roig after six months. She, more or less, threw him under the bus last week in the post-match press conference when she lost to an outsider in the Australian Open in saying “I want to be playing a different way.”

    Radacanu has now had at least ten coaches in the last four and a half years. Roig was 18 years with Nadal. At some point she and her father are going to have to trust someone and stop questioning what they are telling her otherwise she is never going to go on court in every match with a clear and focused mind.  
    Not sure what to think about this. I suspect both player and coach were being inflexible. Her prerogative, as it clearly wasn't working. As with football, just because one manager is successful with one team (player), it doesn't mean they are right for another. One of her main issues is consistency. Not having a consistent coach clearly doesn't help. 
  • Radacanu has now had at least ten coaches in the last four and a half years.

    At some point she and her father are going to have to trust someone.  

  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 41,271
    Radacanu has now had at least ten coaches in the last four and a half years.

    At some point she and her father are going to have to trust someone.  

    Joking aside, Radacanu is now reaching the point where top coaches will not want to take on the job simply because of the proven uncertainty of the position and that it doesn't look good on their CV when (not if) they end up looking for a job six months later. 

    There is something wrong with Radacanu's relationships with coaches. Some have talked about her father's influence in that regard. I think there is something else here too. She is clearly extremely intelligent and knows her mind - she has said it herself that she won't automatically do what a coach asks her to do but question it and if she thinks it's worth trying then she will try it. That can only serve to undermine the relationship especially with a coach such as Roig who has been there, seen it and done it, someone who was in Nadal's coaching team for 22 Grand Slam titles. 

    There comes a point when Radacanu has to start looking at herself for these unexpected defeats rather than elsewhere. She's been in this situation so many times before and is now using her practice partner as her coach. Perhaps that all she needs though it would smack of McIlroy hiring his best mate on his bag where her hitting partner becomes a "yes" person rather than someone who will upset her at times with some straight talking.  
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,582
    Radacanu has now had at least ten coaches in the last four and a half years.

    At some point she and her father are going to have to trust someone.  

    Had a good chat about Raducanu to one of our own at Wembley in May, who has a tennis blog and was very well-informed and in the know  - he concurred the main issue re coaches was her father
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,582
    Radacanu has now had at least ten coaches in the last four and a half years.

    At some point she and her father are going to have to trust someone.  

    Joking aside, Radacanu is now reaching the point where top coaches will not want to take on the job simply because of the proven uncertainty of the position and that it doesn't look good on their CV when (not if) they end up looking for a job six months later. 

    There is something wrong with Radacanu's relationships with coaches. Some have talked about her father's influence in that regard. I think there is something else here too. She is clearly extremely intelligent and knows her mind - she has said it herself that she won't automatically do what a coach asks her to do but question it and if she thinks it's worth trying then she will try it. That can only serve to undermine the relationship especially with a coach such as Roig who has been there, seen it and done it, someone who was in Nadal's coaching team for 22 Grand Slam titles. 

    There comes a point when Radacanu has to start looking at herself for these unexpected defeats rather than elsewhere. She's been in this situation so many times before and is now using her practice partner as her coach. Perhaps that all she needs though it would smack of McIlroy hiring his best mate on his bag where her hitting partner becomes a "yes" person rather than someone who will upset her at times with some straight talking.  
    I was hopeful re Roig, but just because he was so right for Nadal, doesn't mean he is right for Raducanu. Maybe him coaching the one (so successful) player for so long, makes him inflexible, as well as her/her father?
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,582
    Hope those on this thread are enjoying the Alcaraz/Zverev semi
  • Hope those on this thread are enjoying the Alcaraz/Zverev semi
    Incredible match, so pleased Alcaraz managed to pull it out of the bag.

    Do wonder whether Sinner.might see Djokovic off quite easily and be fresher for the final.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 41,271
    Radacanu has now had at least ten coaches in the last four and a half years.

    At some point she and her father are going to have to trust someone.  

    Joking aside, Raducanu is now reaching the point where top coaches will not want to take on the job simply because of the proven uncertainty of the position and that it doesn't look good on their CV when (not if) they end up looking for a job six months later. 

    There is something wrong with Raducanu's relationships with coaches. Some have talked about her father's influence in that regard. I think there is something else here too. She is clearly extremely intelligent and knows her mind - she has said it herself that she won't automatically do what a coach asks her to do but question it and if she thinks it's worth trying then she will try it. That can only serve to undermine the relationship especially with a coach such as Roig who has been there, seen it and done it, someone who was in Nadal's coaching team for 22 Grand Slam titles. 

    There comes a point when Raducanu has to start looking at herself for these unexpected defeats rather than elsewhere. She's been in this situation so many times before and is now using her practice partner as her coach. Perhaps that all she needs though it would smack of McIlroy hiring his best mate on his bag where her hitting partner becomes a "yes" person rather than someone who will upset her at times with some straight talking.  
    I was hopeful re Roig, but just because he was so right for Nadal, doesn't mean he is right for Raducanu. Maybe him coaching the one (so successful) player for so long, makes him inflexible, as well as her/her father?
    From what I have read and understand the inflexibility appears to come from Raducanu and her advisers, one of which is clearly her Dad. The real problem in the Roig situation was that she, effectively, blamed him for losing to such a lowly ranked player in the post-match press conference. No coach worth their salt is going to take that. It is something that needed to be discussed and worked out between them.

    Dan Kiernan, a long-time British coach, who works with the two-times US Open doubles champion Gabriela Dabrowski, said this recently:

    “I don’t think she relishes the battles. I don’t know her, and I have the utmost respect for her, but it does come across that there is a soft centre. When something isn’t quite going to plan, there seems to be a bit of excuse-making. That is part and parcel of something bigger that is going on, that she hasn’t quite settled in [to her career].”

    Raducanu has to find someone she can trust but also has to understand that there will be things that she will not enjoy hearing. If a coach accused her of having a "soft centre" then I honestly believe that the coach in question would be straight out the door. And she cannot use that person as an excuse for losing. 




  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,360
    No way was Alcaraz injured, he just had cramp.

    That said, I wanted him to win as Zverev has no chance in beating the drug cheat Sinner
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,360
    who is the American presenter on TNT with Henman and co ?

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,731
    Djokovic takes the second set off Sinner.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,582
    Radacanu has now had at least ten coaches in the last four and a half years.

    At some point she and her father are going to have to trust someone.  

    Joking aside, Raducanu is now reaching the point where top coaches will not want to take on the job simply because of the proven uncertainty of the position and that it doesn't look good on their CV when (not if) they end up looking for a job six months later. 

    There is something wrong with Raducanu's relationships with coaches. Some have talked about her father's influence in that regard. I think there is something else here too. She is clearly extremely intelligent and knows her mind - she has said it herself that she won't automatically do what a coach asks her to do but question it and if she thinks it's worth trying then she will try it. That can only serve to undermine the relationship especially with a coach such as Roig who has been there, seen it and done it, someone who was in Nadal's coaching team for 22 Grand Slam titles. 

    There comes a point when Raducanu has to start looking at herself for these unexpected defeats rather than elsewhere. She's been in this situation so many times before and is now using her practice partner as her coach. Perhaps that all she needs though it would smack of McIlroy hiring his best mate on his bag where her hitting partner becomes a "yes" person rather than someone who will upset her at times with some straight talking.  
    I was hopeful re Roig, but just because he was so right for Nadal, doesn't mean he is right for Raducanu. Maybe him coaching the one (so successful) player for so long, makes him inflexible, as well as her/her father?
    From what I have read and understand the inflexibility appears to come from Raducanu and her advisers, one of which is clearly her Dad. The real problem in the Roig situation was that she, effectively, blamed him for losing to such a lowly ranked player in the post-match press conference. No coach worth their salt is going to take that. It is something that needed to be discussed and worked out between them.

    Dan Kiernan, a long-time British coach, who works with the two-times US Open doubles champion Gabriela Dabrowski, said this recently:

    “I don’t think she relishes the battles. I don’t know her, and I have the utmost respect for her, but it does come across that there is a soft centre. When something isn’t quite going to plan, there seems to be a bit of excuse-making. That is part and parcel of something bigger that is going on, that she hasn’t quite settled in [to her career].”

    Raducanu has to find someone she can trust but also has to understand that there will be things that she will not enjoy hearing. If a coach accused her of having a "soft centre" then I honestly believe that the coach in question would be straight out the door. And she cannot use that person as an excuse for losing. 




    She definitely has various areas for significant development - and the fighting a battle is definitely one of them, particualary in a 3rd set
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,360
    Djokovic takes the second set off Sinner.
    2 sets all

  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,582
    MrOneLung said:
    Djokovic takes the second set off Sinner.
    2 sets all

    Djoko serving for the match 30 - 0 up
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,827
    Come Djokovic beat the druggie
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,360
    Djokovic wins in 5
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,582
    LenGlover said:
    Come Djokovic beat the druggie
    Vamos Carlos!
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,360
    two great semi finals
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,731
    You’ve go to hand it to Djokovic - pretty amazing result.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,731
    Sinner was 0/8 on break points in the fifth set. Djokovic was 1/1.

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  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,582
    You’ve go to hand it to Djokovic - pretty amazing result.
    Begrudgingly! Quote a few times Sinner had 3 break points yet didn't break
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,639
    Djokovic .. If we didn't know already, this result, irrespective of the final outcome, crowns him as the G O A T .. remarkable tenacity and will to win as well as supreme athletic ability and tennis technique 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,582
    Djokovic .. If we didn't know already, this result, irrespective of the final outcome, crowns him as the G O A T .. remarkable tenacity and will to win as well as supreme athletic ability and tennis technique 
    I think he needs to win his 25th to be the GOAT.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,193
    Djokovic .. If we didn't know already, this result, irrespective of the final outcome, crowns him as the G O A T .. remarkable tenacity and will to win as well as supreme athletic ability and tennis technique 
    I think he needs to win his 25th to be the GOAT.
    Greatest men's Goat already 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,639
    Djokovic .. If we didn't know already, this result, irrespective of the final outcome, crowns him as the G O A T .. remarkable tenacity and will to win as well as supreme athletic ability and tennis technique 
    I think he needs to win his 25th to be the GOAT.
    MALE  G O A T .. Mrs Court is still the female G O A T, statistically,  BUT in a much less competitive era i m o .. I'm NOT gonna start a fight over it lol
  • Djokovic .. If we didn't know already, this result, irrespective of the final outcome, crowns him as the G O A T .. remarkable tenacity and will to win as well as supreme athletic ability and tennis technique 
    I think we did know it already. Neither Nadal nor Federer would've got near Sinner on an Aussie Open court at the age Djokovic is now (4 months shy of turning 39).
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 3,052
    Since Emma won the US open,her career has been a succession of minor injuries,and coaching problems.Does she really want to a be a top player and put the effort in that is required,and can she take the home truths when she is told what to do,personally I dont think so,there are too many good players out there who bust a gut to win matches.
    What two great mens semi finals today,I have said this before,but how can the ladies get paid the same money as the men when you look at the respective semi finals.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,582
    Djokovic .. If we didn't know already, this result, irrespective of the final outcome, crowns him as the G O A T .. remarkable tenacity and will to win as well as supreme athletic ability and tennis technique 
    I think he needs to win his 25th to be the GOAT.
    Greatest men's Goat already 
    In many people's opinion. It's an opinion, not a fact
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,582
    Djokovic .. If we didn't know already, this result, irrespective of the final outcome, crowns him as the G O A T .. remarkable tenacity and will to win as well as supreme athletic ability and tennis technique 
    I think he needs to win his 25th to be the GOAT.
    MALE  G O A T .. Mrs Court is still the female G O A T, statistically,  BUT in a much less competitive era i m o .. I'm NOT gonna start a fight over it lol
    The GOAT isn't just about stats
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,827
    Alfie Hewitt lost his semi in the wheelchair singles.