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Michail Antonio set to sign

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  • raytreacy
    raytreacy Posts: 157
    I am more up to date than the BBC
  • Redhenry said:
    People saying that by the time he is match fit the season will be over, we don’t need him to be match fit, we need him to be fit for 15 mins to allow us to change things up and bring fresh legs on. Dykes was done at the end on Wednesday. A crippled Antonio will make more of an impact than Kelman off the bench
    Not a Kelman fan then, jeez! I think Kelman will come good
    I think Kelman will come good and him and leaburn will be a lethal partnership in the future. Kelman has a higher ceiling than Godden. We need experience and match day intelligence at this moment in time that puts Kelman down the pecking order. He has been an un used sub for the last few games, Antonio offers something better, even if this is for the remainder of the season
  • This rumour appears to be gathering some momentum.

    Seems a strange one if true.  By the time he's match fit the season will be over
    I’m sure he’s not completely unfit but agree he’s going to be nowhere near match fit. Assuming he can get there in around six weeks it would make him available for the Bristol City (H) game on April 3rd. That’s seven games and 21 points. God forbid we lose Dykes an/or Leaburn in that run in period because Godden, Kelman and Campbell are imho unlikely to do much damage without a big man next to them. It seems to me that Antonio coming in on a short contract is a reasonable gamble and insurance policy. His experience and apparent all round popularity won’t do any harm either. 
    It does say he was training with Leicester last month so he probably has a basic level of fitness. It's not as if we've plucked him out of an all-inclusive beach resort like we did with Roussillon.

    We don't even necessarily need him to be fit to start. He could just be used for 15 mins at the end of a game.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,184
    fenaddick said:
    There is no such thing as "pay as you play"

    There are minimum wage levels.  Contracts can be weighted towards appearances but that can prove expensive if they play every week.

    Anyway, U21 game this afternoon. Team news should be out at 12.30
    Is that true for the Championship?

    Or are you really suggesting there is a minimal (relatively) wage agreed plus bonuses? 
    There is a minimum amount you have to pay professional players. That’s the benefit of having a union 
    What figure is that?
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,143
    Could he play in the Carey role if he gets his fitness up? A load of nous and very powerful player
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,306
    There is no such thing as "pay as you play"

    There are minimum wage levels.  Contracts can be weighted towards appearances but that can prove expensive if they play every week.

    Anyway, U21 game this afternoon. Team news should be out at 12.30
    Is that true for the Championship?

    Or are you really suggesting there is a minimal (relatively) wage agreed plus bonuses? 

    There are no specific minimum wage levels for professional footballers at any tier other than that prescribed in National Minimum Wage legislation.

    As you have described, and also @shine166 above, a basic (subject to NMW considerations but I would expect that basic would be above £12.21 per hour!) plus bonuses for playing etc... are perfectly acceptable contractually as long as all parties agree and would be sufficient for the club to hold his player registration for the length of the contract. For example, a six month contract on those terms would work, and if it doesn't work out then it would only cost the club that basic wage.


  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 15,677
    fenaddick said:
    There is no such thing as "pay as you play"

    There are minimum wage levels.  Contracts can be weighted towards appearances but that can prove expensive if they play every week.

    Anyway, U21 game this afternoon. Team news should be out at 12.30
    Is that true for the Championship?

    Or are you really suggesting there is a minimal (relatively) wage agreed plus bonuses? 
    There is a minimum amount you have to pay professional players. That’s the benefit of having a union 
    What figure is that?
    Absolutely no idea, I'm sure it can be found with a google though
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 15,677
    raytreacy said:
    I am more up to date than the BBC
    To be fair, the BBC will need to find 2 sources and have other journalistic standards to uphold, you don't. They may very well know more than they share
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,909
    Redhenry said:
    People saying that by the time he is match fit the season will be over, we don’t need him to be match fit, we need him to be fit for 15 mins to allow us to change things up and bring fresh legs on. Dykes was done at the end on Wednesday. A crippled Antonio will make more of an impact than Kelman off the bench
    Not a Kelman fan then, jeez! I think Kelman will come good
    I do also but Kelman isnt the same type of striker as Dykes/Leaburn/Antonio. More of a Godden. 

    Learning off Dykes, Gooden and Antonio should be invaluable to Kelman & Leaburn really.

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  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,233
    fenaddick said:
    There is no such thing as "pay as you play"

    There are minimum wage levels.  Contracts can be weighted towards appearances but that can prove expensive if they play every week.

    Anyway, U21 game this afternoon. Team news should be out at 12.30
    Is that true for the Championship?

    Or are you really suggesting there is a minimal (relatively) wage agreed plus bonuses? 
    There is a minimum amount you have to pay professional players. That’s the benefit of having a union 
    What figure is that?

  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,605
    This rumour appears to be gathering some momentum.

    Seems a strange one if true.  By the time he's match fit the season will be over
    I’m sure he’s not completely unfit but agree he’s going to be nowhere near match fit. Assuming he can get there in around six weeks it would make him available for the Bristol City (H) game on April 3rd. That’s seven games and 21 points. God forbid we lose Dykes an/or Leaburn in that run in period because Godden, Kelman and Campbell are imho unlikely to do much damage without a big man next to them. It seems to me that Antonio coming in on a short contract is a reasonable gamble and insurance policy. His experience and apparent all round popularity won’t do any harm either. 
    I love the,' he won't last 90 minutes' chat when for most of the season about half of our first 11 haven't been able to last the 90,that is when they even make it on to the pitch . Give the lad a break( no pun intended).
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,184
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    There is no such thing as "pay as you play"

    There are minimum wage levels.  Contracts can be weighted towards appearances but that can prove expensive if they play every week.

    Anyway, U21 game this afternoon. Team news should be out at 12.30
    Is that true for the Championship?

    Or are you really suggesting there is a minimal (relatively) wage agreed plus bonuses? 
    There is a minimum amount you have to pay professional players. That’s the benefit of having a union 
    What figure is that?
    Absolutely no idea, I'm sure it can be found with a google though
    So as above @bobmunroe advises otherwise. 

    So in this case at least the union has no impact. 
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,240
    edited February 13
    I genuinely see no downside to bringing him into the building.

    Comparable to Ricardo Fuller. His rocket shot and pinging his hamstring lives long in the memory.

    (Just looked back - that was in 2012. Bloody hell).
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,492
    Eight points off the playoffs. A fired up Antonio with a point to prove. It's happening isn't it 
    Don't make any other plans for May.
  • I think Kelman, Leaburn, Anderson, Knibbs and even Apter will all come good, but we’re in a relegation scrap and their development has taken a back seat for the moment. We need a mix experience, nous and younger, raw talent, if we lose our wing backs to injury we’re right back to where we were a month ago, and those players are hard to recruit/replace. We were obviously after adding more players on deadline day. We missed out on Sam Field and there was the attacking player at Sunderland that we rightly decided against. Our business is not done.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,590
    How old will he be when he makes his debut for us 
  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,169
    Eight points off the playoffs. A fired up Antonio with a point to prove. It's happening isn't it 
    Relegation?
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 7,131
    Some people act like his wages are coming out their own pockets! I think the last 3 games have shown we have a decent enough squad to stay up. If Antonio can improve us even slightly its a big plus, if he's crap, no harm done.

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,950
    edited February 13
    Dykes was knackered in the latter stages on Wednesday but we had nobody on the bench who could come and play his role. If there's money in the budget to make sure we're not in that situation again, why not. Also, don't know what we'd do if both Dykes and Leaburn dropped out. 
  • This rumour appears to be gathering some momentum.

    Seems a strange one if true.  By the time he's match fit the season will be over
    I’m sure he’s not completely unfit but agree he’s going to be nowhere near match fit. Assuming he can get there in around six weeks it would make him available for the Bristol City (H) game on April 3rd. That’s seven games and 21 points. God forbid we lose Dykes an/or Leaburn in that run in period because Godden, Kelman and Campbell are imho unlikely to do much damage without a big man next to them. It seems to me that Antonio coming in on a short contract is a reasonable gamble and insurance policy. His experience and apparent all round popularity won’t do any harm either. 
    It does say he was training with Leicester last month so he probably has a basic level of fitness. It's not as if we've plucked him out of an all-inclusive beach resort like we did with Roussillon.

    We don't even necessarily need him to be fit to start. He could just be used for 15 mins at the end of a game.
    I didn’t realise when I posted that he was that close to getting a contract at Leicester before his minor muscle injury. That does imply that he’s got something to offer and perhaps might be available for consideration sooner rather than later. After the disappointment he must have felt losing out on Leicester I’m pretty sure he’s kept himself as sharp as possible because if he doesn’t get a gig now then his career could well fizzle out. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 15,677
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    There is no such thing as "pay as you play"

    There are minimum wage levels.  Contracts can be weighted towards appearances but that can prove expensive if they play every week.

    Anyway, U21 game this afternoon. Team news should be out at 12.30
    Is that true for the Championship?

    Or are you really suggesting there is a minimal (relatively) wage agreed plus bonuses? 
    There is a minimum amount you have to pay professional players. That’s the benefit of having a union 
    What figure is that?
    Absolutely no idea, I'm sure it can be found with a google though
    So as above @bobmunroe advises otherwise. 

    So in this case at least the union has no impact. 
    Genuinely surprised by that, lots of mimimum wages on the continent and in the WSL&WSL2, sure it won't be long before it arrives in the EFL too
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,042
    This rumour appears to be gathering some momentum.

    Seems a strange one if true.  By the time he's match fit the season will be over
    I’m sure he’s not completely unfit but agree he’s going to be nowhere near match fit. Assuming he can get there in around six weeks it would make him available for the Bristol City (H) game on April 3rd. That’s seven games and 21 points. God forbid we lose Dykes an/or Leaburn in that run in period because Godden, Kelman and Campbell are imho unlikely to do much damage without a big man next to them. It seems to me that Antonio coming in on a short contract is a reasonable gamble and insurance policy. His experience and apparent all round popularity won’t do any harm either. 
    I wont half laugh if we've brought him in as emergency cover at RB 😅😅😅😅
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 15,677
    Think it's pretty clear that like Dykes he wants to play at the World Cup. As others have said, with Bell and TC here already he'll be on the radar, especially as he was in the squad as recently as September. He'll have sounded out Jones via the above, Coventry and probably Coady and he won't need to move. Will suggest he will be relatively cheap, I think he's worth a punt
  • WSS said:
    1. Stay up
    2. Try and get Dykes and Clarke signed with another SLL for Chambers
    3. Get after summer targets
    4. Blow the budget on experienced/quality 8 and 10
    5. Win the league


    What’s not to like 👍
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,042
    fenaddick said:
    There is no such thing as "pay as you play"

    There are minimum wage levels.  Contracts can be weighted towards appearances but that can prove expensive if they play every week.

    Anyway, U21 game this afternoon. Team news should be out at 12.30
    Is that true for the Championship?

    Or are you really suggesting there is a minimal (relatively) wage agreed plus bonuses? 
    There is a minimum amount you have to pay professional players. That’s the benefit of having a union 
    What figure is that?
    £13.85 p/hr in London. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,333
    Antonio has been training with clubs now for a while so I don’t think fitness in that sense is going to be an issue. It’s going to be can he get match fit quickly?

    I don’t see why we wouldn’t do it if the option is there? He’s got so much experience, he’s another good character, he’s someone who would help TC more and give that encouragement, he’s another Jamaican who will want to do well and hope they get to the World Cup.

    He might only play 5 games for us but his experience and know how alone could prove the difference.

    Happy with this.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,298
    now it makes more sense
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,492
    Chunes said:
    Dykes was knackered in the latter stages on Wednesday but we had nobody on the bench who could come and play his role. If there's money in the budget to make sure we're not in that situation again, why not. Also, don't know what we'd do if both Dykes and Leaburn dropped out