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Leicester City deducted 6 points with immediate effect - club & Prem both appealing (p4)

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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,166
    Afternoon Delight said:
    Premier League are also appealing as they want the deduction increased.......
    Hopefully they win
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 2,431
    The Premier League had pressed for a 12-point starting point and said aggravated factors could have taken it beyond 20. Its specific appeal challenges the lack of a separate penalty for the late accounts.

    In a statement confirming the appeals, the Premier League said: “To provide certainty for all clubs and fans, the Premier League will be seeking to have the appeal resolved urgently, and in any event before the end of the EFL season.”

  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,197
    Get em deducted and get em relegated
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,319
    With good or should I say expensive lawyers they will get the 6pt deduction suspended while the appeal drags on.
    Leaving us in deeper trouble. If you are willing to spend millions on lawyers you can get away with any thing in football. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,551
    msomerton said:
    With good or should I say expensive lawyers they will get the 6pt deduction suspended while the appeal drags on.
    Leaving us in deeper trouble. If you are willing to spend millions on lawyers you can get away with any thing in football. 

  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,167
    Probably you are right but hopefully you are wrong. Would once again make a mockery of the deduction if it has no effect.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,210
    Leicester being up against the Premier League makes this much harder for them. The PL will want to set an example of someone, and who better than a team not even in the Premier League...
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,407
    It would be completely unacceptable for this to be dragged out while the fight against relegation is on. @castrust should get together with Trusts from the other affected clubs and start putting pressure on the EFL to get this sorted by end March at max. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,479
    Pretty sure the rules post the last Wednesday shenanigans and City charges were changed so that any issues have to be settled within the same season 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,183
    From what I read the appeal will go back to the Commissioning panel who first looked at it. I might be nieve but I reckon any decision will be made within a month & in the meantime the points deduction still stands. 

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,887
    msomerton said:
    With good or should I say expensive lawyers they will get the 6pt deduction suspended while the appeal drags on.
    Leaving us in deeper trouble. If you are willing to spend millions on lawyers you can get away with any thing in football. 

    Hmmmm, this is a concern.
    You would think that Leicester believe that they have a good chance of this more than having further points deducted.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,830
    msomerton said:
    With good or should I say expensive lawyers they will get the 6pt deduction suspended while the appeal drags on.
    Leaving us in deeper trouble. If you are willing to spend millions on lawyers you can get away with any thing in football. 
    This was my first thought
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 651
    If they do get the further points deduction, I can’t help but feel that shows just how sick the modern game is, two clubs relegated because of points deductions from financially poor conduct - one of whom a former premier league champion. It’s no longer the canary in the coal mine… the miners are now getting sick! 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,311
    Diebythesword said:
    If they do get the further points deduction, I can’t help but feel that shows just how sick the modern game is, two clubs relegated because of points deductions from financially poor conduct - one of whom a former premier league champion. It’s no longer the canary in the coal mine… the miners are now getting sick! 
    As long as it keeps us up couldn’t care less 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,466
    Diebythesword said:
    If they do get the further points deduction, I can’t help but feel that shows just how sick the modern game is, two clubs relegated because of points deductions from financially poor conduct - one of whom a former premier league champion. It’s no longer the canary in the coal mine… the miners are now getting sick! 
    Maybe they should abide by the rules then
  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,622
    I remember looking at this a while back. Everything I read, including comments from Leicester fans, was 9pts as a starting point, but most likely 12. But it does show the need for fixed penalties, at least for the financial irregularities, and then additional penalties for failure to cooperate. It just seems like they make this up as they go along. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,777
    PragueAddick said:
    It would be completely unacceptable for this to be dragged out while the fight against relegation is on. @castrust should get together with Trusts from the other affected clubs and start putting pressure on the EFL to get this sorted by end March at max. 
    "To provide certainty for all clubs and fans, the Premier League will be seeking to have the appeal resolved urgently, and in any event before the end of the EFL season"

    I would say this is an absolute necessity. There's no way you can finish the season and then have them potentially stay up or go down based on any change to the amount of points deducted. 

    Say they stay up on goal difference and then the decision is that they should have an extra point deducted for late filing of their accounts, which sends them down. That would be absolute carnage.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,284
    I can’t see how they could remove the points deduction (cue somebody telling me coming along, talking about the countless examples of it happening before…).

    There would be several clubs (ourselves included) who would then argue that them having the points deduction would have affected results etc and they may bring their own legal action. 
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,290
    edited February 20
    WSS said:
    I can’t see how they could remove the points deduction (cue somebody telling me coming along, talking about the countless examples of it happening before…).

    There would be several clubs (ourselves included) who would then argue that them having the points deduction would have affected results etc and they may bring their own legal action. 
    Most relevant example is Everton 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68273436#:~:text=Everton's%20penalty%20for%20breaching,year%20period%20to%202021%2D22.

    main difference is that they were not in the relegation zone before or after. 

    They also complied rather than appealed. 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,027
    WSS said:
    I can’t see how they could remove the points deduction (cue somebody telling me coming along, talking about the countless examples of it happening before…).

    There would be several clubs (ourselves included) who would then argue that them having the points deduction would have affected results etc and they may bring their own legal action. 
    Imagine that going into the final game of the season we only need a draw to stay up above them by one point. As a consequence at the end of the match we don’t push too hard for a winner.

    Then a few weeks later they get two points back and we get relegated by one point.

    Wouldn’t surprise me in the modern game. 

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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,453
    jimmymelrose said:
    WSS said:
    I can’t see how they could remove the points deduction (cue somebody telling me coming along, talking about the countless examples of it happening before…).

    There would be several clubs (ourselves included) who would then argue that them having the points deduction would have affected results etc and they may bring their own legal action. 
    Imagine that going into the final game of the season we only need a draw to stay up above them by one point. As a consequence at the end of the match we don’t push too hard for a winner.

    Then a few weeks later they get two points back and we get relegated by one point.

    Wouldn’t surprise me in the modern game. 
    If that would happen to any club - it'd be us!
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 12,869
    Exiled_Addick said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    WSS said:
    I can’t see how they could remove the points deduction (cue somebody telling me coming along, talking about the countless examples of it happening before…).

    There would be several clubs (ourselves included) who would then argue that them having the points deduction would have affected results etc and they may bring their own legal action. 
    Imagine that going into the final game of the season we only need a draw to stay up above them by one point. As a consequence at the end of the match we don’t push too hard for a winner.

    Then a few weeks later they get two points back and we get relegated by one point.

    Wouldn’t surprise me in the modern game. 
    If that would happen to any club - it'd be us!
    Probably the only thing left on our bingo card that hint been ticked.
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,263
    I don't doubt for a moment that there'll be some foot-dragging from Leicester, citing anything they can think off, such as the availability of counsel etc. Hopefully the appeal panel, together with the EFL and Premier League, will get the hearing on as a matter of the utmost priority in order the protect the integrity of the competition.

    Leicester will presumably argue again that the EFL/Premier League arrangement should not act retrospectively, but given that Leicester escaped punishment for the 3 year period ending 2022/23 on a technicality and that loophole was then closed, I can't see how they have a credible argument for the losses up to 2023/24. 

    I really hope the appeal panel apply an additional point deduction for the late filing of the accounts. If clubs can get away with that, how on earth can the rules be consistently applied. As a matter of policy, frivolous and purely tactical appeals designed to kick the can down the road should also be actively discouraged.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,210
    A lot of neutral commentators, and indeed the Premier League, thought the 6 point penalty quite lenient, so Leicester are playing a dangerous game.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,960
    Whats happening to Man City? That seems to have gone quiet 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,105
    Gribbo said:
    Whats happening to Man City? That seems to have gone quiet 
    Couldn't care less.
    Give their points deduction to Leicester!
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,311
    Got relegated because one team unfairly escaped a points deduction, only fair we survive because of one 
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 13,014
    Exiled_Addick said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    WSS said:
    I can’t see how they could remove the points deduction (cue somebody telling me coming along, talking about the countless examples of it happening before…).

    There would be several clubs (ourselves included) who would then argue that them having the points deduction would have affected results etc and they may bring their own legal action. 
    Imagine that going into the final game of the season we only need a draw to stay up above them by one point. As a consequence at the end of the match we don’t push too hard for a winner.

    Then a few weeks later they get two points back and we get relegated by one point.

    Wouldn’t surprise me in the modern game. 
    If that would happen to any club - it'd be us!
    The Charlton Effect.
  • CharltonManor1966
    CharltonManor1966 Posts: 378
    The financial expert on TalkSport today was saying that Leicester's appeal will probably end up in a barter between the 6 points being upheld or possibly nullified in favour of a 9 million fine.
    He said that Leicester would try and delay the final decision by legal delays till nearer the end of the season to see how they stand in the league, then if necessary try to opt for the fine rather than the 6 points.
    He reckoned the Prem appeal is only over their jurisdiction issue last year and is not likely to be heard.
    We can all see how this might end up!?
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,002
    Ive never understood why there aren't procedures in place to stop a club from obviously wasting time to try and avoid the points deduction being effective immediately

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