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Did the old west stand come from Highbury ?

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  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 6,004
    Although from memory when the original ones were taken down they were donated to Biggleswade Town?
    No, Bedford Town
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,946
    Dave Rudd said:

    An Arsenal supporting cab driver told me the other week that our old West stand came form Highbury, is this correct ? Certainly look similar in these images

    IMG_7609.jpeg ae5cd053-60b9-4292-92ce-0e443ff66a60.jpeg

    Get your Arsenal mate back with this one ...

    Why do Arsenal play in red?
    The Forest lent them shirts isn't true either
    It is fairly well documented that Forest had a big involvement in Woolwich Arsenals (or Dial Square FC to be correct) choice of red and white kit in 1886 with Herbert Chapman adding the white sleeves on his arrival.

    @Henry Irving why do you think this is not true? 

    I suspect it's the fine distinction between "Nottm Forest donated the kit to the newly-formed Dial Square team" ... a bit of a myth perpetrated by (among others) Brian Clough ... and the 'fact' that a couple of the players in the original Dial Square team had previously played for Nottm Forest and had kept hold of their kit.

    Why buy a new set of shirts if some of your players already have a shirt or two?

    It seems that Herbert Chapman refined the style based on a golfing buddy.

    Maybe.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,715
    There was a temporary stand prior to the 1922 permanent construction. It is thought this may have come from the Aldershot military tattoo.

    The stand was modelled on the Arsenal one, hence the Leitch connection. I found the link with him and shared it with Simon Inglis.
    Without doubt there was some connection or other with a stand or seats having
    come from Aldershot……either from Aldershot FC or a military establishment, I’m not sure now but Aldershot was definitely mentioned.
    I knew of this some 60+ years ago……make of that what you will.

  • Pedro45 said:
    Although from memory when the original ones were taken down they were donated to Biggleswade Town?
    No, Bedford Town
    Pretty sure it was Biggleswade Town. 
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,986
    edited February 23
    Dave Rudd said:
    Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts:45,072
    The old West Stand - or the Grandstand as it used to be known when I first went down The Valley.
    Wasn't it bought second-hand from Aldershot or someone about 1933 ..... .?

    I remember the old 4-gabled roof, with the letters CAFC on each gable facing the pitch.
    Probably from Crewe Alexandra not Aldershot if it had the letters CAFC on each gable  👍 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,821
    Dave Rudd said:

    An Arsenal supporting cab driver told me the other week that our old West stand came form Highbury, is this correct ? Certainly look similar in these images

    IMG_7609.jpeg ae5cd053-60b9-4292-92ce-0e443ff66a60.jpeg

    Get your Arsenal mate back with this one ...

    Why do Arsenal play in red?
    The Forest lent them shirts isn't true either
    It is fairly well documented that Forest had a big involvement in Woolwich Arsenals (or Dial Square FC to be correct) choice of red and white kit in 1886 with Herbert Chapman adding the white sleeves on his arrival.

    @Henry Irving why do you think this is not true? 
    https://thearsenalcollection.org.uk/?p=43209


  • Dave Rudd said:

    An Arsenal supporting cab driver told me the other week that our old West stand came form Highbury, is this correct ? Certainly look similar in these images

    IMG_7609.jpeg ae5cd053-60b9-4292-92ce-0e443ff66a60.jpeg

    Get your Arsenal mate back with this one ...

    Why do Arsenal play in red?
    The Forest lent them shirts isn't true either
    It is fairly well documented that Forest had a big involvement in Woolwich Arsenals (or Dial Square FC to be correct) choice of red and white kit in 1886 with Herbert Chapman adding the white sleeves on his arrival.

    @Henry Irving why do you think this is not true? 
    https://thearsenalcollection.org.uk/?p=43209


    Cheers Henry. 
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,471
    Pedro45 said:
    Although from memory when the original ones were taken down they were donated to Biggleswade Town?
    No, Bedford Town
    Pretty sure it was Biggleswade Town. 
    It certainly was - the old Fairfield Rd ground. Town have since moved to Langford Rd, and the floodlights have gone. Biggleswade Utd play next to Town's old ground but have their own floodlights. 
  • Pedro45 said:
    Although from memory when the original ones were taken down they were donated to Biggleswade Town?
    No, Bedford Town
    No, Biggleswade Town.
  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,931
    Might have heard this from a taxi driver but the old turnstiles behind the Jimmy Seed stand were originally Dulwich Hamlet’s.

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  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,527
    Might have heard this from a taxi driver but the old turnstiles behind the Jimmy Seed stand were originally Dulwich Hamlet’s.
    Did they come with a free Robert Lee ?
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,178
    edited February 24
    The whole Robert Lee on the turnstiles story is a myth.

    the old Valley turnstiles were built on uneven ground, and their foundations were sub-standard. When there was a big crowd the turnstiles used to move about - and it was often referenced that they were wobbly.

    In a south London accent, that was pronounced as “wobberley”. The phrase “that was the “wobberley” turnstile” was misinterpreted by a junior reporter at The Mercury in 1984, and a story with no basis in fact was born.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,824
    There was a temporary stand prior to the 1922 permanent construction. It is thought this may have come from the Aldershot military tattoo.

    The stand was modelled on the Arsenal one, hence the Leitch connection. I found the link with him and shared it with Simon Inglis.
    Without doubt there was some connection or other with a stand or seats having
    come from Aldershot……either from Aldershot FC or a military establishment, I’m not sure now but Aldershot was definitely mentioned.
    I knew of this some 60+ years ago……make of that what you will.

    I was definitely told about the Aldershot link as a kid, but when I wrote my book in 1991 it was clear this had nothing to do with the 1922 structure.