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Real Ale at the Valley
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so you didn't have to do all the costings and get the set up costs etc,the club are looking into that.
not an ale drinker myself but well done and good luck.
(knowing a few ale drinkers, if they're anything to go by, expect the club to be inundated with the 'you cant expect me to drink a pint of dogfish head snowblower out of a plastic glass' complaints.0 -
[cite]Posted By: paulbaconsarnie[/cite]soyoudidn't have to do all the costings and get the set up costs etc,the club are looking into that.
No, but the figures help if you are going to "convince" yourself it's going to work. : - )
Still, good idea to email the person responsible, whoever was it who suggested that?0 -
That's a decent response from Mr Ellison.
I still think it would be worth him contacting Palace. I know that in once sense they are regarded collectively as our bad body double, when it comes to beer drinking tastes they surely will have an identical customer base..0 -
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite][cite]Posted By: paulbaconsarnie[/cite]soyoudidn't have to do all the costings and get the set up costs etc,the club are looking into that.
No, but the figures help if you are going to "convince" yourself it's going to work. : - )
Still, good idea to email the person responsible, whoever was it who suggested that?
Posts No 12 and 21 look good to me.
Smug buggers.0 -
[cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite][cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite][cite]Posted By: paulbaconsarnie[/cite]soyoudidn't have to do all the costings and get the set up costs etc,the club are looking into that.
No, but the figures help if you are going to "convince" yourself it's going to work. : - )
Still, good idea to email the person responsible, whoever was it who suggested that?
Posts No 12 and 21 look good to me.
Smug buggers.
Smug I can live with but I'll pass on the other offer, Dave. Nothing personal ; - )0 -
Paul isn't happy that his mobile phone number has been reproduced in this thread. Could someone remove it, please?0
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Can we all be a bit more careful with people's personal info, please.0
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I've got to say I was really pleased to read Paul Ellison's response.0
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[cite]Posted By: PragueAddick[/cite]I still think it would be worth him contacting Palace
I totally agree.
I'm not sure how real ale would work in a kiosk inside a stand, but if it get's a trial run I'll certainly be queing up at selected North Upper counter to show my support !!
Can anyone give any examples of some of the ales which would be available to us under the Heineken agreement ?0 -
[cite]Posted By: se9addick[/cite][cite]Posted By: PragueAddick[/cite]I still think it would be worth him contacting Palace
I totally agree.
I'm not sure how real ale would work in a kiosk inside a stand, but if it get's a trial run I'll certainly be queing up at selected North Upper counter to show my support !!
Can anyone give any examples of some of the ales which would be available to us under the Heineken agreement ?
They only list Deuchars IPA on their website.0 -
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[cite]Posted By: Airman Brown[/cite]Paul isn't happy that his mobile phone number has been reproduced in this thread. Could someone remove it, please?
I've apologised to Paul by email. Didn't realise it would be a problem but in hindsight i do.0 -
BTW well done Dan for taking this forward.0
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only Deuchars IPA ?!!!0
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[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]BTW well done Dan for taking this forward.
Thankyou Henry - sometimes gut feel and common sense it's all you need to convince yourself, paricularly when it's impossible to do the calculations. It's whether the club are convinced is what matters and i'm convinced they will be once they see the demand. (not trying to be condescending of course)0 -
[cite]Posted By: Sideways[/cite]If we are tied into Scottish and Newcastle don't they make Courage Directors Winter Warmer? A few pints of that and you're well on your way!
Courage Directors is now made under contract at the Wells & Youngs brewery - Courage don't actually brew anything these days. Winter Warmer is a completely different brew, made by Youngs and not something I'd recommend as a half time drink!
Someone mentioned Theakstons on page 1 - they are now family owned again, having been owned for a while by Scottish & Newcastle.
I think this is a great idea, being a real ale fan and it should be possible if they can do it at other clubs. My only concern is that they would try to charge too much for it - they've already priced themselves out of my market - if I want a drink I buy it outside the ground.0 -
Great idea, all for it. I0
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Some of us - including the former chairman - have been going on about this since 1992 without success . . .0
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[cite]Posted By: Airman Brown[/cite]Some of us - including the former chairman - have been going on about this since 1992 without success . . .
Maybe now is the time?0 -
Should've sent an email to Paul Ellison...0
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Good response from the club - credit where it's due.
Still reckon that bottled ales will be the way forward. No wastage, will keep for a good while, no need to let it settle, not difficult to manage - anyone can learn to pour out a beer properly.
Agree with the poster above who said that people will probably then start moaning that the real ale they stock isn't good enough for them, or that they want it out of a proper glass, etc, etc - but then some of our fans are a right moany bunch of ****s. ;o)
Well done to Bexley Dan for taking this forward.0 -
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Our somewhat nomadic existence has taken us to some far flung and little known breweries. The Orkney Islands bottled brews for example are vital to their economy. Whilst we passed on the delights of 'Skull Splitter', some of the ales were quite tasty. It may be that some smaller breweries would be very pleased to have an outlet in our area and might be prepared to offer favourable terms. It would take a bit of homework, but, for example, I would be willing to help Bexley Dan by writing some exploratory letters to breweries to assess interest if it is felt that it's worth a shot. I rather like Bexley's initiative on this, he's done good.0
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[cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Our somewhat nomadic existence has taken us to some far flung and little known breweries. The Orkney Islands bottled brews for example are vital to their economy. Whilst we passed on the delights of 'Skull Splitter', some of the ales were quite tasty. It may be that some smaller breweries would be very pleased to have an outlet in our area and might be prepared to offer favourable terms. It would take a bit of homework, but, for example, I would be willing to help Bexley Dan by writing some exploratory letters to breweries to assess interest if it is felt that it's worth a shot. I rather like Bexley's initiative on this, he's done good.
Skull splitter is a good beer actualy!!
Not as strong as the name suggests!0 -
notto be confused with Woodforde’s Headcracker (ABV 7%). Does exactly what it says on the tin!0
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[cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Our somewhat nomadic existence has taken us to some far flung and little known breweries. The Orkney Islands bottled brews for example are vital to their economy. Whilst we passed on the delights of 'Skull Splitter', some of the ales were quite tasty. It may be that some smaller breweries would be very pleased to have an outlet in our area and might be prepared to offer favourable terms. It would take a bit of homework, but, for example, I would be willing to help Bexley Dan by writing some exploratory letters to breweries to assess interest if it is felt that it's worth a shot. I rather like Bexley's initiative on this, he's done good.
Thanks and cheers for the offer but i'm happy to let Paul Ellison crack on with it.0 -
I don't know how good a response it is - it's not rocket science. If you sell beer that isn't s***e. people will drink it. It's a no brainer.
They obviously can't have casks, without a cellar, but bottles would be fine. They only need to gauge demand to ensure there isn't waste. That is only a problem if it's badly managed (oh - hang on).
I would have thought London Pride was obvious choice for a London club. And they serve it in the Directors Box already.0 -
My concern would be the staff will they be trained on how to pull pints as i had one last home game that did not know the difference between JS and FOS
So please if this does go ahead basic training
In fact basic training anyway would be nice, including how to use the till 1 fos and 1 JS does not come to 11.35
think this might have been touched on a few times on other threads0 -
[cite]Posted By: Vincenzo[/cite]I don't know how good a response it is - it's not rocket science. If you sell beer that isn't s***e. people will drink it. It's a no brainer.
They obviously can't have casks, without a cellar, but bottles would be fine. They only need to gauge demand to ensure there isn't waste. That is only a problem if it's badly managed (oh - hang on).
I would have thought London Pride was obvious choice for a London club. And they serve it in the Directors Box already.
I'm not an expert but i don't see why you need a cellar. You get the barrels delivered on the day. They come with there own taps which you pour straight into the glass. What you don't sell, you chuck. Simple. You can order these for home delivery. There is absolutley no training or equipment required. Just like at a beer festival. The barrels are stacked up behind the counter. It's so simple.0 -
[cite]Posted By: Bexley Dan[/cite][cite]Posted By: Vincenzo[/cite]I don't know how good a response it is - it's not rocket science. If you sell beer that isn't s***e. people will drink it. It's a no brainer.
They obviously can't have casks, without a cellar, but bottles would be fine. They only need to gauge demand to ensure there isn't waste. That is only a problem if it's badly managed (oh - hang on).
I would have thought London Pride was obvious choice for a London club. And they serve it in the Directors Box already.
I'm not an expert but i don't see why you need a cellar. You get the barrels delivered on the day. They come with there own taps which you pour straight into the glass. What you don't sell, you chuck. Simple. You can order these for home delivery. There is absolutley no training or equipment required. Just like at a beer festival. The barrels are stacked up behind the counter. It's so simple.
Normally, real ale barrels have to be set up and left to settle as they contain sediment, however, what you are talking about is having "bright" beer - this is where the beer is drawn off from the barrel in which it has been maturing and put into another container from which it will be dispensed. The problem with that is the cost - when you buy such containers for home use you pay retail for it and presumably there is no further cost. Whereas Charlton will have to add on an amount to cover the staffing cost and to make a profit.0
