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Government to tap all our phones, texts and emails

RodneyCharltonTrotta
RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,835
edited October 2010 in Not Sports Related
1984.

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  • About time too.


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  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Yep cos every large IT project they always make a stonking success of. VB for a mission critical Ambulance delivery service??????

    However they do it they'll make an absolute ass of collecting the info, storing it and analysing it. Some poor bugger'll no doubt have a murder case made up on him because of some anal comment on Facebook.
  • They are talking about it on LBC now and quite interesting. Usual line in defence of it is "Nothing to fear if nothing to hide" but as lots of people have pointed out they have lots to hide despite it not being illegal.
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    Jeez! So they can afford to do that, but they need to cut benefits.

    When they say "We're all in this together" I wish TV reporters would respond with "Crackerjack"! I believe 8 of the cabinet are millionaires?
  • Exactly saga. They had securty experts on saying it futile as terrorism isnt always arranged online or with technology. Particularly when they know they are being watched.
  • DRF
    DRF Posts: 2,455
    Don't Panic Captain Mannering. Nobody panic. I SAID DON'T PANIC.
  • i'd expect that its already all being monitored..
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,448
    They've been doing it for donkeys years already. We've become so complacent about it all that they now don't even bother hiding it. Anyone who thinks records of their email and internet activity isn't all sat in a san somewhere in gchq has obviously never been in a tier 1 datacentre and seen the taps inserted at peering points.

    Remember - just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you...
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,064
    This is not new ... check out Project Echelon
  • [cite]Posted By: Leroy Ambrose[/cite] has obviously never been in a tier 1 datacentre and seen the taps inserted at peering points.
    ...

    That's the sort of place you would probably know if you had visited, I take it?

    Can't for the life of me remember going to one so I reckon I fall into this category!

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  • RedZed333
    RedZed333 Posts: 3,103
    Click......
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,179
    Been doing it here in Portugal for a year or so, it was supposed to be for just one year though, to see if it "worked", not heard of it changing - quelle suprise...

    Latest is all cars to be chipped so they "can charge tolls on motorways without setting up expensive toll booths" - yes of course it is.

    Said motorways were built with vast amounts of EU cash, and were always to be kept toll free, by law... except they just changed the law...
  • incorruptible addick
    incorruptible addick Posts: 2,125
    edited October 2010
    There's a rumour that they intercepted a suspiciously coded text last night from someone in southern Italy, sent to a mobile registered to a P. Parkinson in SE7, which read :

    ''DID U C ME ON TV ? 90M IN RED SHRT v NAP. ENJY CARLSLE SAT. SORRY CANT B THERE . JJ. ''

    No idea if it's true or not...
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,424
    Their in for a shock if they open the text messages of one or two off this forum ; )
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    edited October 2010
    Been kicked about 4 years and rejected as a non starter re email archive. As for your mobiles they have been doing it for years and as for landlines they have been scanned by key words since the IRA etcetc 20 years +

    All cars at airports /Bluewater etc + cars entering the City of London are recorded
  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,624
    The Internet War

    some article about wikileaks and u.s. trying to shut them down
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    I have nothing to hide so won't try to. Not sure why people care if they're not doing anything wrong?
  • Anyone looking at my internet or texting history is going to be very, very bored, very, very quickly.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,474
    edited October 2010
    [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]I have nothing to hide so won't try to. Not sure why people care if they're not doing anything wrong?
    You don't _think_ you have anything to hide. Can you be sure your activities on the web haven't made you a known associate of someone the police / security services might be interested in? You've never made an exaggerated "threat" of violence as a joke, never had a photo taken of you at a party that your employers wouldn't like, belonged to a mailing list for a political party / union / religious group / non mainstream interest group? Just because it's not an issue now, doesn't mean it won't be in the future.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,179
    [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]I have nothing to hide so won't try to. Not sure why people care if they're not doing anything wrong?

    Because they are not doing anything wrong, that's why they/we care Dazzler. Why shouldn't you send a saucy text to the wife on the way home without some "spy" having a laugh at your expense? As Ali says, laws are altered to suit the powers that be, that's what has happened in extremist dictatorships throughout history. If this is to be a law why were we not given an opportunity to vote on it just a few months ago? Democracy.... pah.

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  • I got a surprise 'home visit' from the security services, who chatted to me whilst perusing my bookshelves. I had lots of books on politics, including a slim volume on Conservative party thought, linked to my studies. 'Ah', he said as he selected one book from about 60, 'I see you have an interest in Marx.' I'd done nothing wrong apart from being a very visibly active member of a protest movement. That was in the 60's. Nothing's changed, only the methods used.
  • [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]I got a surprise 'home visit' from the security services, who chatted to me whilst perusing my bookshelves. I had lots of books on politics, including a slim volume on Conservative party thought, linked to my studies. 'Ah', he said as he selected one book from about 60, 'I see you have an interest in Marx.' I'd done nothing wrong apart from being a very visibly active member of a protest movement. That was in the 60's. Nothing's changed, only the methods used.

    I am genuinely astonished by this post. Exactly how much worse can it get ?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    [cite]Posted By: Algarveaddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]I have nothing to hide so won't try to. Not sure why people care if they're not doing anything wrong?

    Because they are not doing anything wrong, that's why they/we care Dazzler. Why shouldn't you send a saucy text to the wife on the way home without some "spy" having a laugh at your expense? As Ali says, laws are altered to suit the powers that be, that's what has happened in extremist dictatorships throughout history. If this is to be a law why were we not given an opportunity to vote on it just a few months ago? Democracy.... pah.
    ah never thought about saucy texts lol
  • [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]I have nothing to hide so won't try to. Not sure why people care if they're not doing anything wrong?

    I dont have anything to hide either but doesnt mean I want some civil servant mong know what conversations I have, every private email I send or receive or what porn i look at and Im sure most wouldnt.
  • [cite]Posted By: Leroy Ambrose[/cite] obviously never been in a tier 1 datacentre and seen the taps inserted at peering points.

    Yeah because we all spend our weekends wandering around data centres!

    Not that anyone would be granted access anyway into a data hall.