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Was the Ref right to prevent a quick free kick after the disallowed goal?
Henry Irving
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does it matter we won
and i think its up to the referee to decide whether its okay depending on injured players, subs ect.. 0 -
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I'm more curious as to why he ordered a freekick for the pass back despite the ball being played away from the keeper. The defender as clearly not passing the ball back and Elliot scrambled back only just managing to stop the ball going out for a corner.
Overall the ref was monumentally poor.0 -
Disalloed. Is that some Indian dish.0
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Aloo is potato isn't it? Dis-aloe-d is not applying cactus based skincare products :-)0
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[cite]Posted By: Valley_floyd_red[/cite]Aloo is potato isn't it? Dis-aloe-d is not applying cactus based skincare products :-)
Aloo is potato - yes. Aloo gobi is potato and cauliflower, both of which are Indian, as is the cricket world cup!!!! ;-)0 -
Ps Aloe vera is a term used in Coronation Street to greet an old lady0
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I think it would have been unfair to play on as they had about 6 players celebrating off the pitch.0
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[cite]Posted By: northstandsteve[/cite]I think it would have been unfair to play on as they had about 6 players celebrating off the pitch.
That's their lookout surely. Wasn't there, but I always try to allow quick free-kicks in your own half. The problem he may have forseen was then having to book six players for returning to the field of play (and leaving it) without his consent. Could have been funny.0 -
[cite]Posted By: Valley_floyd_red[/cite]No.
I'm more curious as to why he ordered a freekick for the pass back despite the ball being played away from the keeper. The defender as clearly not passing the ball back and Elliot scrambled back only just managing to stop the ball going out for a corner.
Overall the ref was monumentally poor.
Because the ball doesn't need to be passed 'back'.
An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a goalkeeper, inside his
own penalty area, touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him.
by a team-mate0 -
[cite]Posted By: Stone[/cite][cite]Posted By: Valley_floyd_red[/cite]No.
I'm more curious as to why he ordered a freekick for the pass back despite the ball being played away from the keeper. The defender as clearly not passing the ball back and Elliot scrambled back only just managing to stop the ball going out for a corner.
Overall the ref was monumentally poor.
Because the ball doesn't need to be passed 'back'.
An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a goalkeeper, inside his
own penalty area, touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him.
by a team-mate
The ball wasn't kicked at him, it was going off for a corner and Rob had to dive to stop it going off.
The ref gave the freekick for a "back pass", he then paced out 8 yards to the front post and let us have a wall there.
The wall was at a right angle to the goal line and not along it.0 -
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[cite]Posted By: guinnessaddick[/cite][cite]Posted By: Stone[/cite][cite]Posted By: Valley_floyd_red[/cite]No.
I'm more curious as to why he ordered a freekick for the pass back despite the ball being played away from the keeper. The defender as clearly not passing the ball back and Elliot scrambled back only just managing to stop the ball going out for a corner.
Overall the ref was monumentally poor.
Because the ball doesn't need to be passed 'back'.
An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a goalkeeper, inside his
own penalty area, touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him.
by a team-mate
The ball wasn't kicked at him, it was going off for a corner and Rob had to dive to stop it going off.
The ref gave the freekick for a "back pass", he then paced out 8 yards to the front post and let us have a wall there.
The wall was at a right angle to the goal line and not along it.
OK, badly worded by VFR. I've had players stop the ball on the goal line and pass it forward to the keeper who thinks he's OK to pick it up as the ball has been played forward. Wrong.
I guess my question now is (and as you know I wasn't there)... Was the last Charlton player to play the ball intending to play the ball to Elliot, but played a poor back pass? If so, I'd say a free-kick was correct.0 -
stone- what about the quickly taken free kick that had 6 of the oposition still celebrating off the pitch?0
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Dailly was trying to put it out for a corner - no doubt about that at all. However, he mishit it and it spun wildly, but was still going out for a corner until Elliot stopped it.
Surely there has to be intent in order to "deliberately" pass the ball to the keeper and in this instance there was none whatsoever. Everyone in the ground could see that, barring one man who has probably not kicked a ball in anger since he failed to make the cut for his primary school team..0 -
I assumed he pulled back the quickly taken free kick because the ball was rolling or was taken from the wrong spot.
As for the other free kick, that was a joke as how on earth was that a deliberate back pass?0 -
Whether the ref allows a quick free kick or not is surely up to his discretion. I think it was reasonable to delay the free kick given as Orient had thought they scored and had half the team celebrating in front of their fans. If we had taken advantage, it would have left a sour note on our Victory. As for the pass pack rule- another decision that is down to the ref's discretion - whether the decisons go for you or against you - I'm a supporter of refs using this more.0
