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Controling midfield and therefore possession will win you more games of football than not. Yesterday our defence was magnificent but for a long period we were reduced to hoofing it clear and our midfield was unable to prevent it coming straight back. Nothing will convince me that was in Jones’s plan.Callumcafc said:
Possession alone won’t win games of football.ShootersHillGuru said:I think there’s a lot of rose tinted views coming out here. Orient controlled midfield today. If that was by design on Charltons part then fair play but I don’t think it was.1 -
Leicester won the premiership with an average 42% possession.ShootersHillGuru said:
Controling midfield and therefore possession will win you more games of football than not. Yesterday our defence was magnificent but for a long period we were reduced to hoofing it clear and our midfield was unable to prevent it coming straight back. Nothing will convince me that was in Jones’s plan.Callumcafc said:
Possession alone won’t win games of football.ShootersHillGuru said:I think there’s a lot of rose tinted views coming out here. Orient controlled midfield today. If that was by design on Charltons part then fair play but I don’t think it was.1 -
Perhaps listen to the NTT20 post match podcast for an entirely different perspective.ShootersHillGuru said:I think there’s a lot of rose tinted views coming out here. Orient controlled midfield today. If that was by design on Charltons part then fair play but I don’t think it was.2 -
One of the first things I thought of after we'd stopped celebrating.
Clean sheets are no good, don't concentrate on a strong defence, just score loads of goals.
It doesn't matter if you concede 3 every game, just make sure you score 4.
PS He's never wrong
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/99433/if-clean-sheets-win-you-titles-why-arent-burnley-top/p1
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The best teams and teams that win most games as a general rule have most possession and control the game as a result. There are of course always exceptions but unless it’s proved to me otherwise I’m sticking that good teams retain the ball. You can’t score a goal without having the ball.FishCostaFortune said:
Leicester won the premiership with an average 42% possession.ShootersHillGuru said:
Controling midfield and therefore possession will win you more games of football than not. Yesterday our defence was magnificent but for a long period we were reduced to hoofing it clear and our midfield was unable to prevent it coming straight back. Nothing will convince me that was in Jones’s plan.Callumcafc said:
Possession alone won’t win games of football.ShootersHillGuru said:I think there’s a lot of rose tinted views coming out here. Orient controlled midfield today. If that was by design on Charltons part then fair play but I don’t think it was.To be honest I’ve never read anything more obvious.1 -
We had loads of possession under KR. Never did anything with it. Other teams just made us play in front of them and we couldn't break them down. Exactly what we did to Orient yesterday. We haven't played like that too much this season but in a one off winner takes all game like a playoff final when you go a goal up and have a defence as solid as ours its the natural way to make everything of your advantage.
When we havent done this in the past its been called poor game management.5 -
Funny how some people just like to dig out others.Covered End said:One of the first things I thought of after we'd stopped celebrating.
Clean sheets are no good, don't concentrate on a strong defence, just score loads of goals.
It doesn't matter if you concede 3 every game, just make sure you score 4.
PS He's never wrong
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/99433/if-clean-sheets-win-you-titles-why-arent-burnley-top/p1
Ok, I admit I was wrong. You can gain promotion by keeping 25 clean sheets, but don't deny that the 3 play off matches were not a football spectacle.
I prefer to see attacking football & yes, winning 4-3 to me is much better than winning 1-0.
And unless we strengthen hugely in the summer we wont win many games 1-0 in the Championship. And I haven't forgotten that our record of winning games once we concede first is virtually the mirror opposite of our record once we score first.
Interesting times coming up this summer.0 -
It took me absolutely bloody ages to get my brain to shift from "KR = Kayne Ramsay? No, that's not right" to work out who you actually meant there.cantersaddick said:We had loads of possession under KR. Never did anything with it. Other teams just made us play in front of them and we couldn't break them down. Exactly what we did to Orient yesterday. We haven't played like that too much this season but in a one off winner takes all game like a playoff final when you go a goal up and have a defence as solid as ours its the natural way to make everything of your advantage.
When we havent done this in the past its been called poor game management.1 -
We’ve more chance of winning 1-0 nil in the championship than 4-3 atm.golfaddick said:
Funny how some people just like to dig out others.Covered End said:One of the first things I thought of after we'd stopped celebrating.
Clean sheets are no good, don't concentrate on a strong defence, just score loads of goals.
It doesn't matter if you concede 3 every game, just make sure you score 4.
PS He's never wrong
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/99433/if-clean-sheets-win-you-titles-why-arent-burnley-top/p1
Ok, I admit I was wrong. You can gain promotion by keeping 25 clean sheets, but don't deny that the 3 play off matches were not a football spectacle.
I prefer to see attacking football & yes, winning 4-3 to me is much better than winning 1-0.
And unless we strengthen hugely in the summer we wont win many games 1-0 in the Championship. And I haven't forgotten that our record of winning games once we concede first is virtually the mirror opposite of our record once we score first.
Interesting times coming up this summer.2 -
We won’t win many games 1-0 this season…
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Yeah but how many of those teams got promoted this calendar year?Callumcafc said:We won’t win many games 1-0 this season…
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Only us and Boro haven't conceded in the championship.
Leicester at home is highly likely to be a different story.
They are in the yoyo club bracket now. They will do anything for promotion again and quality wise, they may overwhelm us on Saturday.
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I'm betting on us to win against Leicester. I haven't done that for a very long time but 5/2 is great value imo.3
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How many clean sheets do people think Charlton will keep this season?0
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Two.1
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Will 12 clean sheets over a season be enough to keep us up?0
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Well, it will guarantee us at least 12* points!Mendonca In Asdas said:Will 12 clean sheets over a season be enough to keep us up?
* well, 14 ...... we have 4 points already
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Not doubting Leicester have a lot of quality and they may well be the first side to score against us this season, but I really don't see them overwhelming us.Dave2l said:Only us and Boro haven't conceded in the championship.
Leicester at home is highly likely to be a different story.
They are in the yoyo club bracket now. They will do anything for promotion again and quality wise, they may overwhelm us on Saturday.Take a few minutes to watch the Preston-Leicester highlights. Leicester could not cope with the pace on the wings, and we have a lot of that ourselves.0 -
no . Not if most aren’t winsMendonca In Asdas said:Will 12 clean sheets over a season be enough to keep us up?0 -
ShootersHillGuru said:Going to take more than relying on clean sheets next season. Midfield was bossed today and we’ll face better every week in The Championship. I’m sure Nathan knows what’s needed though.
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So far we have won 1-0 twice and now a 3-0 and 4 clean sheets, more than anyone else.golfaddick said:
Funny how some people just like to dig out others.Covered End said:One of the first things I thought of after we'd stopped celebrating.
Clean sheets are no good, don't concentrate on a strong defence, just score loads of goals.
It doesn't matter if you concede 3 every game, just make sure you score 4.
PS He's never wrong
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/99433/if-clean-sheets-win-you-titles-why-arent-burnley-top/p1
Ok, I admit I was wrong. You can gain promotion by keeping 25 clean sheets, but don't deny that the 3 play off matches were not a football spectacle.
I prefer to see attacking football & yes, winning 4-3 to me is much better than winning 1-0.
And unless we strengthen hugely in the summer we wont win many games 1-0 in the Championship. And I haven't forgotten that our record of winning games once we concede first is virtually the mirror opposite of our record once we score first.
Interesting times coming up this summer.2
