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Freedom of speech

Is It gradually eroding away? 

There's usually a good and bad side to everything but people should be able to voice their opinion.

I know there are Internet trolls and there are people who just want to cause harm.

It's just strange these days how relatively normal people get arrested based on what they write on the Internet.

Let's agree to disagree....

Actions speak louder than words....
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  • Go to Manchester on a weekend and see what is being preached to kids. Freedom of speech
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  • 2 pages maximum….

    I don't see why that might be the case.

    It is an interesting psychological topic that carries history behind it. 

    I can't remember his name but I know some French bloke was a strong advocate for it. 


  • Shut the f**k up!!!
  • MrOneLung said:
    4-3-2-1…..
    I prefer 4-2-3-1 as a formation...
  • It would be handy to give examples to support any view.

    i can’t see this making the second page
  • Dave2l said:
    2 pages maximum….

    I don't see why that might be the case.

    It is an interesting psychological topic that carries history behind it. 

    I can't remember his name but I know some French bloke was a strong advocate for it. 


    How is it a psychological topic?
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  • It would be handy to give examples to support any view.

    i can’t see this making the second page
    Well an example would be Palestine Action.
    Able to say what they want under freedom of speech and now they are banned and classed as terrorists
  • So why were they allowed in the first place? Or are we going to far banning these now? There are some interesting freedom of speech examples
  • se9addick said:
    Dave2l said:
    2 pages maximum….

    I don't see why that might be the case.

    It is an interesting psychological topic that carries history behind it. 

    I can't remember his name but I know some French bloke was a strong advocate for it. 


    How is it a psychological topic?

    "Free speech may increase self-awareness: The key to mental health often begins with self-awareness. When we habitually hide our thoughts from others, we tend to become less aware of them internally, as well. We go into denial"

    AI
  • It would be handy to give examples to support any view.

    i can’t see this making the second page
    Well an example would be Palestine Action.
    Able to say what they want under freedom of speech and now they are banned and classed as terrorists
    You’re wilfully distorting what’s happened in that situation.  
  • MrOneLung said:
    4-3-2-1…..
    I prefer 4-2-3-1 as a formation...
    1-3-4-2 firing order of my old Courtina. 
  • se9addick said:
    It would be handy to give examples to support any view.

    i can’t see this making the second page
    Well an example would be Palestine Action.
    Able to say what they want under freedom of speech and now they are banned and classed as terrorists
    You’re wilfully distorting what’s happened in that situation.  
    I'm not. It was allowed under freedom of speech and now it should be stopped if they are classed as terrorists. It won't happen tho
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    Nah
  • Freedom of speech until someone says something I don’t agree with 
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  • se9addick said:
    It would be handy to give examples to support any view.

    i can’t see this making the second page
    Well an example would be Palestine Action.
    Able to say what they want under freedom of speech and now they are banned and classed as terrorists
    You’re wilfully distorting what’s happened in that situation.  
    I'm not. It was allowed under freedom of speech and now it should be stopped if they are classed as terrorists. It won't happen tho
    Wasn't it because of vandalism? Specifically, breaking into an airbase and damaging some aircraft? Not exactly as bad as what they are campaigning against granted, but not saying the wrong thing either 
  • I would read this forum to browse political discussions because people seemed to argue with a passion. 

    I don't think there's anything wrong with doing that.

    Obviously "hurty words" can sometimes break loose and things may unnecessarily get personal.

    I just think people should be able to say what they think.

    Fortunately for myself, I don't really have much of an opinion about anything.

    My mind is like an empty cage and nothing is really going on in it. 

    Regarding general and political opinion, I have the passion of a sloth. 
  • edited June 23
    So the problem in this day and age is there tends to be 4 ways to give an opinion on a thing when on social media. Obviously non responding is a fifth option, but I don't see that as giving an opinion. 

    - You have people that can make a point eloquently, well structured  and researched and are usually correct because they've put effort in. 

    - You have people that maybe don't structure or research so well, they can make a point, but are willing to learn and/or be proven wrong. 

    - You have people that will state an opinion  as fact then ignore every other answer.

    - Then you have the problem people. When challenged they immediately become personal, swear, threaten and are genuinely childlike (and not nice children) in the way they make their point. They will gaslight you if it saves their face...

    Sadly generally speaking the former two are much more quiet on social media, whilst the loudest ones are usually the latter two.  

    The second to last types sometimes come across more believable to some, because they simply ignore challenge and interaction and this can be read as confidence. It's usually arrogance and ignorance. 

    Those last ones would rather stir up hatred and violent speech than enter into a proper discourse on a topic for fear of exposing their idiocy.

    Using X or Twitter as an example, the majority of tweets seem to be from those two latter pools of people. 

  • Injuring a police officer with a sledgehammer isn't freedom of speech.
  • Freedom of speech is not freedom from responsibility. You can say what you want but saying some things leads to consequences. 

    Also look up the paradox of tolerance. Really relevant now. 

    With freedom of speech, as with most freedoms, it appears to be the ones that bang on about it the most who actually threaten it. Take the US for an example. Those who were campaigning for free speech for the last few years and setting up their own social media sites in the name of free speech are now the ones banning books, removing peer reviewed research and limiting what information can be in libraries and museums.
    It's not a new thing. It will always happen.
    Anybody can see it's not fairly enforced though. 
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