Have to remember that non footballing wages will be much cheaper in Blackburn than any club in London. Of course tickets should be as cheap as possible but much more realistic to benchmark with QPR or Millwall
Have to remember that non footballing wages will be much cheaper in Blackburn than any club in London. Of course tickets should be as cheap as possible but much more realistic to benchmark with QPR or Millwall
Have to remember that non footballing wages will be much cheaper in Blackburn than any club in London. Of course tickets should be as cheap as possible but much more realistic to benchmark with QPR or Millwall
Have to remember that non footballing wages will be much cheaper in Blackburn than any club in London. Of course tickets should be as cheap as possible but much more realistic to benchmark with QPR or Millwall
Disagree because neither QPR nor Millwall have the spare capacity we do and Millwall will always struggle to attract new support. I’ve always thought that “benchmarking” against other clubs is largely a waste of time, since no two clubs are the same.
For many years Charlton’s support has been skewed towards season tickets, which is both a strength and a weakness. Good for guaranteed income, but it misrepresents the depth of support - reflected in relatively weak retail and commercial revenue.
The focus has to be on developing more regular support. Price is only one factor, but it is a factor. It will be interesting to see what happens.
i don’t agree by the way that tickets should be as cheap as possible. They should be set to maximise revenue, but finding the sweet spot isn’t easy.
Blackburn in particular is a really poor comparison. It’s a small town, and people up there earn a lot less. They do not have great support and have one of the lower followings in the championship. It’s just completely impossible to put their crowds and pricing strategy alongside ours.
Blackburn in particular is a really poor comparison. It’s a small town, and people up there earn a lot less. They do not have great support and have one of the lower followings in the championship. It’s just completely impossible to put their crowds and pricing strategy alongside ours.
Each to their own but as it’s a club in our division I put it up on here.
Have to remember that non footballing wages will be much cheaper in Blackburn than any club in London. Of course tickets should be as cheap as possible but much more realistic to benchmark with QPR or Millwall
Disagree because neither QPR nor Millwall have the spare capacity we do and Millwall will always struggle to attract new support. I’ve always thought that “benchmarking” against other clubs is largely a waste of time, since no two clubs are the same.
For many years Charlton’s support has been skewed towards season tickets, which is both a strength and a weakness. Good for guaranteed income, but it misrepresents the depth of support - reflected in relatively weak retail and commercial revenue.
The focus has to be on developing more regular support. Price is only one factor, but it is a factor. It will be interesting to see what happens.
i don’t agree by the way that tickets should be as cheap as possible. They should be set to maximise revenue, but finding the sweet spot isn’t easy.
All I was saying is you can’t really compare our ticket prices to Blackburn because it’s a different market. Of course there are differences between us and the other London clubs, no two clubs are the same but a neutral won’t care about that they’ll look at price and the league table.
I get what you mean about maximising revenue but as a fan I want my club not to just fleece me (like QPR selling tickets for £51). I actually think our tickets are pretty reasonable this season and will make it easier for me to get to a decent number of games, life permitting.
Anybody know the rationale behind the pricing zone of West Stand block H?
Are we looking to move the Charlton Ultras near the away fans or simply offering concessions to those fans who will have to suffer their songs?
It's the new family zone extension, would love to know who thought it was a good idea to sit families down there nect to away fans... certainly wouldnt want my 6 year old sat there. Should have used the 16-20 spaces that are barely used.
Assume we needed more space for families this year, and Block H was an area where creating more space for families meant the least disruption to existing ticket holders.
Assume we needed more space for families this year, and Block H was an area where creating more space for families meant the least disruption to existing ticket holders.
Itl just get sold to more ppl taking the piss out of the ticket system, so itl be sold out and half empty again like the other family stand. I get why people do it, but its annoying when you want to bring a actual child with sensory/crowd issues.
Anybody know the rationale behind the pricing zone of West Stand block H?
Are we looking to move the Charlton Ultras near the away fans or simply offering concessions to those fans who will have to suffer their songs?
My guess is that very few season ticket holders in this section in recent years, and looks better on tv for corners if there are fewer obviously empty seats.
The use of block H is because it was previously unavailable for sale so they don't have to move anyone, could have used block A in the Curbs for the same reason
Have to remember that non footballing wages will be much cheaper in Blackburn than any club in London. Of course tickets should be as cheap as possible but much more realistic to benchmark with QPR or Millwall
Disagree because neither QPR nor Millwall have the spare capacity we do and Millwall will always struggle to attract new support. I’ve always thought that “benchmarking” against other clubs is largely a waste of time, since no two clubs are the same.
For many years Charlton’s support has been skewed towards season tickets, which is both a strength and a weakness. Good for guaranteed income, but it misrepresents the depth of support - reflected in relatively weak retail and commercial revenue.
The focus has to be on developing more regular support. Price is only one factor, but it is a factor. It will be interesting to see what happens.
i don’t agree by the way that tickets should be as cheap as possible. They should be set to maximise revenue, but finding the sweet spot isn’t easy.
All I was saying is you can’t really compare our ticket prices to Blackburn because it’s a different market. Of course there are differences between us and the other London clubs, no two clubs are the same but a neutral won’t care about that they’ll look at price and the league table.
I get what you mean about maximising revenue but as a fan I want my club not to just fleece me (like QPR selling tickets for £51). I actually think our tickets are pretty reasonable this season and will make it easier for me to get to a decent number of games, life permitting.
I understand that and as fans we are fortunate that Charlton’s sweet spot has never been premium pricing, for a variety of reasons. But the question should be what is the best price for the club, which loses a shedload of money every season, not what is the best price for us as individuals.
The concept of the neutral is overplayed, IMO. The tourist market has grown, but the people Charlton need are the casual attenders who become regular attenders. I think you have to price keenly (and be moderately successful) to do that.
Hardcore fans will be less deterred by price, other things being equal.
In one sense it is easier for Charlton because most home fans at any given game are season ticket holders, so you can flex matchday prices.
Assume we needed more space for families this year, and Block H was an area where creating more space for families meant the least disruption to existing ticket holders.
Itl just get sold to more ppl taking the piss out of the ticket system, so itl be sold out and half empty again like the other family stand. I get why people do it, but its annoying when you want to bring a actual child with sensory/crowd issues.
The Family area used to be down there before it moved to the north east corner when the Covered End was double decked in 2002 - I sat there with my boys - there was also a family room with a pool table at the end of the West Stand Lower concourse.
The family stand isn't as big a piss take ticketing wise as some make out, it is mainly kids with parents. It's biggest problem is that its facilities are rubbish
The family stand isn't as big a piss take ticketing wise as some make out, it is mainly kids with parents. It's biggest problem is that its facilities are rubbish
Not sure many have complained about the prices, more than it's full of people who migrate to the north and
The family stand isn't as big a piss take ticketing wise as some make out, it is mainly kids with parents. It's biggest problem is that its facilities are rubbish
Whenever I use the family stand I go downstairs and use the covered end bars and toilets, I don’t use that silly little kiosk upstairs
Anybody know the rationale behind the pricing zone of West Stand block H?
Are we looking to move the Charlton Ultras near the away fans or simply offering concessions to those fans who will have to suffer their songs?
It's the new family zone extension, would love to know who thought it was a good idea to sit families down there nect to away fans... certainly wouldnt want my 6 year old sat there. Should have used the 16-20 spaces that are barely used.
Would be impossible to use the NWQ as you’d have two zones in one area!
The 16-20 zone tends to sell (and at least be expected to sell) more match by match tickets, just £10, and as a way or encouraging behaviour change from casual fan/attendance to more regular.
Block H in the West was closed off, so makes sense to offer that as an overflow to family stand. Surprised they didn’t use the last 2 blocks of the AC Stand.
Anybody know the rationale behind the pricing zone of West Stand block H?
Are we looking to move the Charlton Ultras near the away fans or simply offering concessions to those fans who will have to suffer their songs?
It's the new family zone extension, would love to know who thought it was a good idea to sit families down there nect to away fans... certainly wouldnt want my 6 year old sat there. Should have used the 16-20 spaces that are barely used.
Would be impossible to use the NWQ as you’d have two zones in one area!
The 16-20 zone tends to sell (and at least be expected to sell) more match by match tickets, just £10, and as a way or encouraging behaviour change from casual fan/attendance to more regular.
Block H in the West was closed off, so makes sense to offer that as an overflow to family stand. Surprised they didn’t use the last 2 blocks of the AC Stand.
Yeah that's why I said use that space, not share it lol
Anybody know the rationale behind the pricing zone of West Stand block H?
Are we looking to move the Charlton Ultras near the away fans or simply offering concessions to those fans who will have to suffer their songs?
It's the new family zone extension, would love to know who thought it was a good idea to sit families down there nect to away fans... certainly wouldnt want my 6 year old sat there. Should have used the 16-20 spaces that are barely used.
Would be impossible to use the NWQ as you’d have two zones in one area!
The 16-20 zone tends to sell (and at least be expected to sell) more match by match tickets, just £10, and as a way or encouraging behaviour change from casual fan/attendance to more regular.
Block H in the West was closed off, so makes sense to offer that as an overflow to family stand. Surprised they didn’t use the last 2 blocks of the AC Stand.
Yeah that's why I said use that space, not share it lol
Granted- but that would only be c200 seats, in the NWC part of NWQ that already houses ‘non 16-20’ tickets?
So we’re kicking out 300 ‘normal tickets’ from a 500 seat area too?
Anybody know the rationale behind the pricing zone of West Stand block H?
Are we looking to move the Charlton Ultras near the away fans or simply offering concessions to those fans who will have to suffer their songs?
It's the new family zone extension, would love to know who thought it was a good idea to sit families down there nect to away fans... certainly wouldnt want my 6 year old sat there. Should have used the 16-20 spaces that are barely used.
Would be impossible to use the NWQ as you’d have two zones in one area!
The 16-20 zone tends to sell (and at least be expected to sell) more match by match tickets, just £10, and as a way or encouraging behaviour change from casual fan/attendance to more regular.
Block H in the West was closed off, so makes sense to offer that as an overflow to family stand. Surprised they didn’t use the last 2 blocks of the AC Stand.
Yeah that's why I said use that space, not share it lol
Granted- but that would only be c200 seats, in the NWC part of NWQ that already houses ‘non 16-20’ tickets?
So we’re kicking out 300 ‘normal tickets’ from a 500 seat area too?
Just doesn’t work
Relocating is probably the better way of putting it. Also, 300 ppl don't sit there, they mostly buy a cheap ST and move to the cupboard end.
Blackburn in particular is a really poor comparison. It’s a small town, and people up there earn a lot less. They do not have great support and have one of the lower followings in the championship. It’s just completely impossible to put their crowds and pricing strategy alongside ours.
Each to their own but as it’s a club in our division I put it up on here.
Yes fair enough didn’t mean to sound like I was criticising ! And actually still interested to see definitely.
i just think where demographics and circumstances are so different it’s hard to compare. It’s like Burnley; more than a quarter of their entire population is at turf moor most weeks in theory. But the football club is the entire town.
And the Bradford scenario and the dirt cheap season tickets they sell and get huge crowds. Fair enough and it’s interesting to give the idea but it’s very hard to directly transfer some of the strategies to us or other clubs
Sure I read that the cheapest Middlesbrough non concession adult season ticket was £610
These prices are off the scale.
However, I read a while back that they have one of the highest percentage of season ticket holders living direct to the ground. Perhaps research has said they can charge this accordingly.
Having said that, how much will it be for on the day sales?!
Tbf most northerners come down here steal our work then return to buy a house for 5 thousand so that's not too bad a price for them plus they will still have enough disposable income for 5 all inclusive holidays for the whole family in benidorm : )
Sure I read that the cheapest Middlesbrough non concession adult season ticket was £610
These prices are off the scale.
However, I read a while back that they have one of the highest percentage of season ticket holders living direct to the ground. Perhaps research has said they can charge this accordingly.
Having said that, how much will it be for on the day sales?!
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For many years Charlton’s support has been skewed towards season tickets, which is both a strength and a weakness. Good for guaranteed income, but it misrepresents the depth of support - reflected in relatively weak retail and commercial revenue.
The focus has to be on developing more regular support. Price is only one factor, but it is a factor. It will be interesting to see what happens.
i don’t agree by the way that tickets should be as cheap as possible. They should be set to maximise revenue, but finding the sweet spot isn’t easy.
I get what you mean about maximising revenue but as a fan I want my club not to just fleece me (like QPR selling tickets for £51). I actually think our tickets are pretty reasonable this season and will make it easier for me to get to a decent number of games, life permitting.
Anybody know the rationale behind the pricing zone of West Stand block H?
Hardcore fans will be less deterred by price, other things being equal.
In one sense it is easier for Charlton because most home fans at any given game are season ticket holders, so you can flex matchday prices.
The Family area used to be down there before it moved to the north east corner when the Covered End was double decked in 2002 - I sat there with my boys - there was also a family room with a pool table at the end of the West Stand Lower concourse.
Block H in the West was closed off, so makes sense to offer that as an overflow to family stand. Surprised they didn’t use the last 2 blocks of the AC Stand.
i just think where demographics and circumstances are so different it’s hard to compare. It’s like Burnley; more than a quarter of their entire population is at turf moor most weeks in theory. But the football club is the entire town.