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Championship Games 25/26

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,598
    Crama with a goal and 2 assists.
    Don't see him and Azeez staying there next season.

    Unless Millwall are P🙊
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,786
    I think we will struggle at Oxford. Don’t get me wrong I think they are going down…. But they have a much more mobile midfield than us. 

    Yes they let goals in but so what - we won’t be putting any pressure on them at that end of the pitch so we can’t take advantage of their weakness.

    Same reason I think we may struggle at Sheff Weds. We need to be more forward thinking and create more chances to take advantage of the intrinsic weaknesses both teams have
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,329
    I think we will struggle at Oxford. Don’t get me wrong I think they are going down…. But they have a much more mobile midfield than us. 

    Yes they let goals in but so what - we won’t be putting any pressure on them at that end of the pitch so we can’t take advantage of their weakness.

    Same reason I think we may struggle at Sheff Weds. We need to be more forward thinking and create more chances to take advantage of the intrinsic weaknesses both teams have
    Wouldn’t necessarily call Will Vaulks and Cameron Brannagan mobile players. 
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,682
    I think we will struggle at Oxford. Don’t get me wrong I think they are going down…. But they have a much more mobile midfield than us. 

    Yes they let goals in but so what - we won’t be putting any pressure on them at that end of the pitch so we can’t take advantage of their weakness.

    Same reason I think we may struggle at Sheff Weds. We need to be more forward thinking and create more chances to take advantage of the intrinsic weaknesses both teams have

    We don't concede goals though do we. That's why we nick points instead of losing 2-1
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,695
    edited February 25
    I think we will struggle at Oxford. Don’t get me wrong I think they are going down…. But they have a much more mobile midfield than us. 

    Yes they let goals in but so what - we won’t be putting any pressure on them at that end of the pitch so we can’t take advantage of their weakness.

    Same reason I think we may struggle at Sheff Weds. We need to be more forward thinking and create more chances to take advantage of the intrinsic weaknesses both teams have

    We had better not struggle.  One of the few winnable games left after frittering away a lot since Christmas.
    We beat Oxford and realistically they are massively unlikely to make up a 15 point gap over the other 11 games left so that just leaves one please to worry about.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,598
    edited February 25
    1st win in 9 for Stoke and Oxford are 12 points behind CAFC with both teams having 12 games to go.
    Oxford tried to win the game and gave it a go and it was good to see both teams trying to win.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,231
    It would help  if Oxford can beat West Brom on Saturday. Oxford are very unlikely to make up a 12 deficit to us, but WBA are still close enough to catch us.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,962
    It would help  if Oxford can beat West Brom on Saturday. Oxford are very unlikely to make up a 12 deficit to us, but WBA are still close enough to catch us.
    The ideal would be they draw and then both get a points deduction 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,786
    Definitely want an Oxford win v West Brom. Think we will lose to Wrexham and Oxford aren’t making up 12 points on us.

    West Brom are a much more realistic threat 

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,709
    I think we will struggle at Oxford. Don’t get me wrong I think they are going down…. But they have a much more mobile midfield than us. 

    Yes they let goals in but so what - we won’t be putting any pressure on them at that end of the pitch so we can’t take advantage of their weakness.

    Same reason I think we may struggle at Sheff Weds. We need to be more forward thinking and create more chances to take advantage of the intrinsic weaknesses both teams have
    Agreed, but that being said, I think we might nick a couple of results against better sides because we're set up to hit teams on the counter/sit deep and not concede. 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,504
    edited February 26
    Crama with a goal and 2 assists.
    Don't see him and Azeez staying there next season.
    Only way they’ll be with us is if we go up. Failing that they’ll be gone, but we’ll get serious money for them and reinvest it. 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,504
    aso914 said:
    Crama with a goal and 2 assists.
    Don't see him and Azeez staying there next season.
    Crama is insanely talented the hype is deserved and more and his primary position is technically CB. 
    He played back at CB tonight. 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,504
    Millwall still have to play 5 teams currently below us
    Blackburn H
    Norwich H
    West Brom A
    Leicester A
    Oxford H
    Wonder if they will do us any favours?
    You’ve still got to play Wrexham, Boro, Ipswich and Hull so we need you to do us sone favours as well 😊
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,683
    Millwall still have to play 5 teams currently below us
    Blackburn H
    Norwich H
    West Brom A
    Leicester A
    Oxford H
    Wonder if they will do us any favours?
    You’ve still got to play Wrexham, Boro, Ipswich and Hull so we need you to do us sone favours as well 😊
    I wouldn't hold your breath.
  • I think we will struggle at Oxford. Don’t get me wrong I think they are going down…. But they have a much more mobile midfield than us. 

    Yes they let goals in but so what - we won’t be putting any pressure on them at that end of the pitch so we can’t take advantage of their weakness.

    Same reason I think we may struggle at Sheff Weds. We need to be more forward thinking and create more chances to take advantage of the intrinsic weaknesses both teams have
    Everyone has a more mobile midfield than us, it hasn't stopped us getting points at other places.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,786
    edited February 26
    I think we will struggle at Oxford. Don’t get me wrong I think they are going down…. But they have a much more mobile midfield than us. 

    Yes they let goals in but so what - we won’t be putting any pressure on them at that end of the pitch so we can’t take advantage of their weakness.

    Same reason I think we may struggle at Sheff Weds. We need to be more forward thinking and create more chances to take advantage of the intrinsic weaknesses both teams have
    Everyone has a more mobile midfield than us, it hasn't stopped us getting points at other places.
    You’re right but in recent weeks we have become even less attack minded than earlier in the season.

    As we reach the business end and teams throw caution to the wind more (eg Oxford whose game against us will absolutely be must win for them) - they will be even more vulnerable at the back.

    Hence why I feel we simply will have to change our approach as their weakness at the back will be even more pronounced 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,329
    Think mobility is arguably the one thing that our midfield has. Besides Coady obviously, Carey is quick, Docherty has some decent pace and Coventry isn’t rapid but he isn’t slow and has the legs to move round the pitch. What they lack is any sort of ability to play with the ball 
  • Think mobility is arguably the one thing that our midfield has. Besides Coady obviously, Carey is quick, Docherty has some decent pace and Coventry isn’t rapid but he isn’t slow and has the legs to move round the pitch. What they lack is any sort of ability to play with the ball 
    We have a ‘defend the Alamo’ gameplan. Playing with the ball when you are restricted by the walls of the the fort you’ve built is generally not a viable option; and sending somebody over the top to attack the opposition goal, usually on their own, tends to end badly more often than not.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,433
    edited February 26
    I think we will struggle at Oxford. Don’t get me wrong I think they are going down…. But they have a much more mobile midfield than us. 

    Yes they let goals in but so what - we won’t be putting any pressure on them at that end of the pitch so we can’t take advantage of their weakness.

    Same reason I think we may struggle at Sheff Weds. We need to be more forward thinking and create more chances to take advantage of the intrinsic weaknesses both teams have
    With respect every side has a more mobile midfield than us!!, but we keep getting results🤷🏻‍♂️.  

    Sorry Chris from sidcup already said that!!

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  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,850
     letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Think mobility is arguably the one thing that our midfield has. Besides Coady obviously, Carey is quick, Docherty has some decent pace and Coventry isn’t rapid but he isn’t slow and has the legs to move round the pitch. What they lack is any sort of ability to play with the ball 
    We have a ‘defend the Alamo’ gameplan. Playing with the ball when you are restricted by the walls of the the fort you’ve built is generally not a viable option; and sending somebody over the top to attack the opposition goal, usually on their own, tends to end badly more often than not.
    So our game plan's based on a siege in which the walls were breached and all the defenders killed?
  • Think mobility is arguably the one thing that our midfield has. Besides Coady obviously, Carey is quick, Docherty has some decent pace and Coventry isn’t rapid but he isn’t slow and has the legs to move round the pitch. What they lack is any sort of ability to play with the ball 
    Does he?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,962
    Think mobility is arguably the one thing that our midfield has. Besides Coady obviously, Carey is quick, Docherty has some decent pace and Coventry isn’t rapid but he isn’t slow and has the legs to move round the pitch. What they lack is any sort of ability to play with the ball 
    Does he?
    He does actually! I can't remember what game it was but he won the ball on the edge of our box and went on a run into the opposition half with such a turn of pace that I think even he got scared and ended up forgetting to do anything with the ball. We see his pace often enough when he tracks into the fullback position to cover and make a challenge. He's not going to go burning up the wing or anything but he's much quick across the ground than I ever gave him credit for previously
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,480
    Easy to look quick too when your competition is Coady, Coventry, Berry and Rankin-Costello 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,329
    Surely that means Docherty is average at the very least, when you can consider we can rock up with a midfield of Coady, JRC and Berry. You also have Carey in there who is arguably our quickest player behind TC Fevrier and Sichenje 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,127
    I don't think that it's necessarily pace that we need in our midfield (although it would be nice) but the ability to make a forward, incisive pass.
    None of our current midfielders appear to have that ability. I don't remember any of them making a pass like the one from Kayne the other night.
    Sonny Carey does at least have the ability to get beyond the opposition's midfield but then tends to look only to get a shot away.
    It would be nice if he had some help from his fellow midfielders.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,598
    edited February 26
    thenewbie said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    Oxford been very unlucky in my view - arguably the better side and unfortunate not to take the lead for 2-1 then instantly concede. 

    They look much better than us ironically. 
    This is exactly the point when it comes down to it with the 2 sides of NJ's brand of football. Oxford look better than us, Leicester look better, West Brom look better, all 3 play "better" more appealing football... but we are the ones 7 point clear who have never been in the drop spots once all season.
    Jonesball is turgid and tough to watch but it works.

    It looks like it will work to keep Cafc in the Championship this season but our game will need to evolve with a better balance between attack and defence for us to make any progress in the future.

    I watched Stoke play a 20 pass move on the ground last night with a shot that hit the side netting as the defender just did a semi block; also a wicked whipped cross from Thomas that Rak-Sakyi headed in.
    A long kick from the keeper can work as demonstrated in the home game against Stoke with Dykes winning the header and TC picking up the ball and rounding the hesitant keeper to score. It's the wild aimless kicks which bypass our midfield which is the hard to watch part of our game. 

    Youngsters watch the top English and European clubs on TV play a brand of attacking football and won't want to come and see CAFC play hoof ball from defence in the general direction of two big strikers up front. The percentage of anything coming from this or even winning the ball is low.

    Turgid football from Charlton only seems to work when the opposition are profligate in front of goal.
    Having a strong defence is fine and mandatory but we have to improve with our passing and movement when going forward.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,682
    I am a massive fan of the BBC not even including us in their relegation table

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/clyvdpy5zm5o
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,231
    I am a massive fan of the BBC not even including us in their relegation table

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/clyvdpy5zm5o
    But to avoid that, Matt Bloomfield's side urgently need to address their lack of threat in the final third having not found the target at the Kassam Stadium since beating Southampton on Boxing Day.

    5 consecutive home games where they've failed to score. I imagine the odds on a 0-0 between Oxford and WBA are quite small...
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,299
    I am a massive fan of the BBC not even including us in their relegation table

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/clyvdpy5zm5o
    But to avoid that, Matt Bloomfield's side urgently need to address their lack of threat in the final third having not found the target at the Kassam Stadium since beating Southampton on Boxing Day.

    5 consecutive home games where they've failed to score. I imagine the odds on a 0-0 between Oxford and WBA are quite small...
    We can't have that continue up until we go there. Because you just know...Charlton.