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Coventry City [A] Tickets to go on restricted sale
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What overheads would it save though? It's not as if the JS stand has separate blocks and facilities. If Boro wanted to bring another 500 fans, that's basically 95% profit.cafc_4life said:
Based on the assumption boro wouldn’t sellout the full JS on a Tuesday night, restricting the allocation would reduce any, potentially unnecessary, overheads.LargeAddick said:
That seems weird, not that I expect them to shift 2,500 for a Tuesday night game in London, but why not the full allocation if needed?JustFloydRoad said:
On that note we have given Middlesborough 2,500AFKABartram said:
Because they are flying top of the league and seeing more demand for home tickets now than they were 2 months ago.LargeAddick said:
Maybe not and I understand the EFL rules BUT why do they give an extra 800 tickets to some clubs and not others? I can understand it if we’d taken weeks to sell out and so they think we’d struggle to sell the rest but we sold out in the space of three days so the demand is there. I’m going to assume here that Charlton were told you can have the extra 700/800 but you have to pay for them up front and the Club were not confident we’d sell them and didn’t want to take a potential hit.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
What would be the point?LargeAddick said:
Something CAST need to take up with the Club as to why? Or the Fan Advocates? I'm assuming Coventry will cite increased demand from home supporters whom I assume are desperate to see the mighty Charlton Athletic in action too.AFKABartram said:Disappointing, we sell our 2k in just 2 days. Looks like they’re wanting Block 9 for home fans.
As per league rules, Coventry only have to give us 2k. As much as an extra 127 is stupid and in a block we'd already sold, they're actually technically giving us more tickets than they have to. Not sure CAST or the club can do much here.I’m likely to miss out but I’ve no complaints. When we do well we all screen to split the Jimmy Seed to get more home fans in.
That leaves 700 unallocated.
If the demand from boro is there, imagine pretty easy to open up remaining 7002 -
I wouldn't rely on what Boro have posted. Charlton would certainly sell any extra tickets required - the only exception would be if police imposed the restriction or part of the stand was unavailable for some reason (if Charlton had allocated it to home fans for some reason. But in this case that would be nuts). There are no obvious savings from a restriction to 2,500.killerandflash said:
What overheads would it save though? It's not as if the JS stand has separate blocks and facilities. If Boro wanted to bring another 500 fans, that's basically 95% profit.cafc_4life said:
Based on the assumption boro wouldn’t sellout the full JS on a Tuesday night, restricting the allocation would reduce any, potentially unnecessary, overheads.LargeAddick said:
That seems weird, not that I expect them to shift 2,500 for a Tuesday night game in London, but why not the full allocation if needed?JustFloydRoad said:
On that note we have given Middlesborough 2,500AFKABartram said:
Because they are flying top of the league and seeing more demand for home tickets now than they were 2 months ago.LargeAddick said:
Maybe not and I understand the EFL rules BUT why do they give an extra 800 tickets to some clubs and not others? I can understand it if we’d taken weeks to sell out and so they think we’d struggle to sell the rest but we sold out in the space of three days so the demand is there. I’m going to assume here that Charlton were told you can have the extra 700/800 but you have to pay for them up front and the Club were not confident we’d sell them and didn’t want to take a potential hit.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
What would be the point?LargeAddick said:
Something CAST need to take up with the Club as to why? Or the Fan Advocates? I'm assuming Coventry will cite increased demand from home supporters whom I assume are desperate to see the mighty Charlton Athletic in action too.AFKABartram said:Disappointing, we sell our 2k in just 2 days. Looks like they’re wanting Block 9 for home fans.
As per league rules, Coventry only have to give us 2k. As much as an extra 127 is stupid and in a block we'd already sold, they're actually technically giving us more tickets than they have to. Not sure CAST or the club can do much here.I’m likely to miss out but I’ve no complaints. When we do well we all screen to split the Jimmy Seed to get more home fans in.
That leaves 700 unallocated.If the demand from boro is there, imagine pretty easy to open up remaining 700
What is likely is that Charlton don't want to print 3,400 tickets up front if Boro won't bring 2,500.3 -
Swansea said this ‘ The Swans travel to The Valley on Saturday, November 1, with kick-off at 3pm and we have an allocation of 1,600 tickets for this fixture.’
They ended up bringing 2k+ so I reckon Boro will get the full end.0 -
West Brom are being charged £45 adults and £35 for U18s for their game at Coventry. There was a big uproar about the pricing and talk of their fans boycotting it in protest. As of a few days ago they were on general sale and hadn't sold out.MartinCAFC said:
My point wasn't about the Wycombe game it was just a reference point. You missed the whole point I made which was if they charged us £37 as they have other teams who got a bigger allocation there's no guarantee we would have sold them all. They obviously believe they can sell the extra 7-800 themselves.letthegoodtimesroll said:
That call for splitting the JS was because Wycombe couldn’t sell their tickets and basically given we’d just beaten them on their ground twice within a few weeks was never likely to give them much in the way of encouragement to come to the Valley anyway as their firm had already dropped off once we turned them over 4-0 in the league gameMartinCAFC said:
Even if they were charging £37 for an adult ticket, would we have sold it out? Possible but no guarantees and as AFKA says demand is now seeing Coventry sell home games out. Similar to the Wycombe play off game when we all wanted half of the JSS.panther10 said:
We would have easily have sold an extra 700 ,800LargeAddick said:
Maybe not and I understand the EFL rules BUT why do they give an extra 800 tickets to some clubs and not others? I can understand it if we’d taken weeks to sell out and so they think we’d struggle to sell the rest but we sold out in the space of three days so the demand is there. I’m going to assume here that Charlton were told you can have the extra 700/800 but you have to pay for them up front and the Club were not confident we’d sell them and didn’t want to take a potential hit.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
What would be the point?LargeAddick said:
Something CAST need to take up with the Club as to why? Or the Fan Advocates? I'm assuming Coventry will cite increased demand from home supporters whom I assume are desperate to see the mighty Charlton Athletic in action too.AFKABartram said:Disappointing, we sell our 2k in just 2 days. Looks like they’re wanting Block 9 for home fans.
As per league rules, Coventry only have to give us 2k. As much as an extra 127 is stupid and in a block we'd already sold, they're actually technically giving us more tickets than they have to. Not sure CAST or the club can do much here.
Frustrating but understandable situation.
I don't know if every other team getting charged £32 got the extra 7-800 it might just be to there gold category games or whatever there equivalent is. Someone mentioned WBA - that's very likely gold and why they got a full allocation because Coventry would know WBA would sell the lot and at £37 each too.
I doubt the club have told Coventry to just give us the 2,000 min as the club put in an extra allocation request. I don't know how they allocate tickets, maybe our allocation is all teams will get in future if Coventry are selling out at home now. Maybe they'll give us more in future if we get upgraded to a gold category game but they might charge us £37 and then we may not sell it all out which then puts us in the position of the Wycombe game where the home club wants the unsold seats back.
Not saying I agree with this or say it's right, it's frustrating but understandable too.0 -
From what I have heard, any tickets that aren't sold cost the club money/get us fined, someone might be able to confirm this?
I think we need to be honest about ourselves here and our allocations. 2100+ is a very fair amount. The reason clubs like Norwich, West Brom etc get the full, is cause their projections show they they will almost certainly sell them all.
It isn't a tactic, it isn't cynical, it is just probably Coventry knowing those extra tickets will go to their home fans with the season they are having, and we aren't exactly famous for selling out everywhere we go. (Our numbers are of course improving)
I don't remember anyone being too bothered when we couldn't fill out a few aways last season, so I don't see why it is an issue here.3 -
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32,600 capacity. 29,800 average attendance. Why would they need to withhold the 700 away fan section ‘9’ to sell to home fans ? I know we’ve been known to occasionally sing we are the greatest team the world has ever seen but I doubt even the citizens of Coventry really believe that.
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The cops also have a big say in how many away fans can attend, it’s not always about the clubs involved.2 -
Away Allocation & TicketingValiantphil said:PWR
The cops also have a big say in how many away fans can attend, it’s not always about the clubs involved.
The allocation of tickets offered to away clubs vary depending on demand and the police/safety advice we are provided with.
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There's no way that the Police would insist that Coventry give us fewer tickets than they gave West Brom.Valiantphil said:PWR
The cops also have a big say in how many away fans can attend, it’s not always about the clubs involved.8 -
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Or Birmingham !!killerandflash said:
There's no way that the Police would insist that Coventry give us fewer tickets than they gave West Brom.Valiantphil said:PWR
The cops also have a big say in how many away fans can attend, it’s not always about the clubs involved.0 -
We're going to Dhillons brewery a few minutes walk north of the arena station. Coventry mate recommends it.palarsehater said:11 of us heading to this one on the 10.40 up, any other pubs besides spoons?1 -
Possibly., once the Met have told the West Midlands plod how nasty our fans are.killerandflash said:
There's no way that the Police would insist that Coventry give us fewer tickets than they gave West Brom.Valiantphil said:PWR
The cops also have a big say in how many away fans can attend, it’s not always about the clubs involved.
We had to be kept apart from the spanners don't forget.0 -
its a shame about the reduced allocation - we would have gone to this and i reckon a lot of other non regular away fans would have - new ground, not too far - would have sold out easily - looking at birmingham now1
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Stoke are being charged £45 per adult ticket by Coventry. We are being charged £32. That will be the reason they are not giving us more.2
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But IF there are 700 empty seats in the away section it makes no sense at all, even at ‘only’ £32 a pop. I still think that it’s a case of them telling us we can have the extra 700 but only if we pay in full up front and the Club don’t want to risk not selling out and therefore making a loss.Athletico Charlton said:Stoke are being charged £45 per adult ticket by Coventry. We are being charged £32. That will be the reason they are not giving us more.0 -
We got chased on the way back to the station in 99/00 the cup game.DOUCHER said:
Agreed - brought the end to a long run of home and ways when we lost 3-0 in 87 I think it was - 3 of us getting chased all the way back to the station just capped off a catalogue of pain that day - went in 99 I think it was in the cup - a much better day all roundElfsborgAddick said:
A horrible walk to and from the station.SporadicAddick said:I think row F is about half way up the block furthest right.
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Loved that game...They were singing can we play you every week when they went 2-0 up after 20 or so mins. Then when Hunt scored the winner in 88 we gave that song back to them...Course they didnt like it.Covered End said:
We got chased on the way back to the station in 99/00 the cup game.DOUCHER said:
Agreed - brought the end to a long run of home and ways when we lost 3-0 in 87 I think it was - 3 of us getting chased all the way back to the station just capped off a catalogue of pain that day - went in 99 I think it was in the cup - a much better day all roundElfsborgAddick said:
A horrible walk to and from the station.SporadicAddick said:I think row F is about half way up the block furthest right.2 -
We'd easily sell those extra 700 IMHO. Shame a few more Addicks won't be able to get to this one.LargeAddick said:
But IF there are 700 empty seats in the away section it makes no sense at all, even at ‘only’ £32 a pop. I still think that it’s a case of them telling us we can have the extra 700 but only if we pay in full up front and the Club don’t want to risk not selling out and therefore making a loss.Athletico Charlton said:Stoke are being charged £45 per adult ticket by Coventry. We are being charged £32. That will be the reason they are not giving us more.0 -
I was there as well , my sister had passed away aged 46 days before, so I was'n't in a good place. So it is a bitter/sweet moment for me.Chippycafc said:
Loved that game...They were singing can we play you every week when they went 2-0 up after 20 or so mins. Then when Hunt scored the winner in 88 we gave that song back to them...Course they didnt like it.Covered End said:
We got chased on the way back to the station in 99/00 the cup game.DOUCHER said:
Agreed - brought the end to a long run of home and ways when we lost 3-0 in 87 I think it was - 3 of us getting chased all the way back to the station just capped off a catalogue of pain that day - went in 99 I think it was in the cup - a much better day all roundElfsborgAddick said:
A horrible walk to and from the station.SporadicAddick said:I think row F is about half way up the block furthest right.
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The digital age eh ! 🤷☹️Airman Brown said:
I wouldn't rely on what Boro have posted. Charlton would certainly sell any extra tickets required - the only exception would be if police imposed the restriction or part of the stand was unavailable for some reason (if Charlton had allocated it to home fans for some reason. But in this case that would be nuts). There are no obvious savings from a restriction to 2,500.killerandflash said:
What overheads would it save though? It's not as if the JS stand has separate blocks and facilities. If Boro wanted to bring another 500 fans, that's basically 95% profit.cafc_4life said:
Based on the assumption boro wouldn’t sellout the full JS on a Tuesday night, restricting the allocation would reduce any, potentially unnecessary, overheads.LargeAddick said:
That seems weird, not that I expect them to shift 2,500 for a Tuesday night game in London, but why not the full allocation if needed?JustFloydRoad said:
On that note we have given Middlesborough 2,500AFKABartram said:
Because they are flying top of the league and seeing more demand for home tickets now than they were 2 months ago.LargeAddick said:
Maybe not and I understand the EFL rules BUT why do they give an extra 800 tickets to some clubs and not others? I can understand it if we’d taken weeks to sell out and so they think we’d struggle to sell the rest but we sold out in the space of three days so the demand is there. I’m going to assume here that Charlton were told you can have the extra 700/800 but you have to pay for them up front and the Club were not confident we’d sell them and didn’t want to take a potential hit.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
What would be the point?LargeAddick said:
Something CAST need to take up with the Club as to why? Or the Fan Advocates? I'm assuming Coventry will cite increased demand from home supporters whom I assume are desperate to see the mighty Charlton Athletic in action too.AFKABartram said:Disappointing, we sell our 2k in just 2 days. Looks like they’re wanting Block 9 for home fans.
As per league rules, Coventry only have to give us 2k. As much as an extra 127 is stupid and in a block we'd already sold, they're actually technically giving us more tickets than they have to. Not sure CAST or the club can do much here.I’m likely to miss out but I’ve no complaints. When we do well we all screen to split the Jimmy Seed to get more home fans in.
That leaves 700 unallocated.If the demand from boro is there, imagine pretty easy to open up remaining 700
What is likely is that Charlton don't want to print 3,400 tickets up front if Boro won't bring 2,500.0 -
Has the extra allocation gone already? All I can see is "sold out"
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Was pretty brutal. I was on from the start but as soon as I kept highlighting two tickets, they had gone. All tickets were in people’s boxes within a a minute I say, I kept refreshing and very fortunately I got two together that someone had released.rananegra said:Has the extra allocation gone already? All I can see is "sold out"If you after a single, I’d say keep refreshing it for a bit as some could still be help in people’s boxes1 -
Looks as if the allocation started from row PP0
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I have a return train tkt I purchased 6 weeks ago but can’t now go. It’s with a senior railcard and it’s in my apple wallet. £30 if any body needs it PM me. It’s an off peak day return any permitted route.0
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Doubt they've ever caught anybody, doubt they wanted to - would't be that difficult to plan ahead and come from the station direction or even think about meeting up with people who wanted a fight? 'You've just been chased by the CSPC (Coventry Snails Pace Crew' ' calling card but handed out by the ticket inspector at the station.Covered End said:
We got chased on the way back to the station in 99/00 the cup game.DOUCHER said:
Agreed - brought the end to a long run of home and ways when we lost 3-0 in 87 I think it was - 3 of us getting chased all the way back to the station just capped off a catalogue of pain that day - went in 99 I think it was in the cup - a much better day all roundElfsborgAddick said:
A horrible walk to and from the station.SporadicAddick said:I think row F is about half way up the block furthest right.0 -
I don’t get your point ?Athletico Charlton said:Stoke are being charged £45 per adult ticket by Coventry. We are being charged £32. That will be the reason they are not giving us more.2 -
This rule doesn't exist outside the Premier League to my knowledge, although once they have supplied the required amount I would guess that host clubs can set their own terms. It would only be logical to do it with Charlton if they can sell the same seats to home fans, or it releases others that would need to kept empty if Charlton had more.Braziliance said:From what I have heard, any tickets that aren't sold cost the club money/get us fined, someone might be able to confirm this?
I think we need to be honest about ourselves here and our allocations. 2100+ is a very fair amount. The reason clubs like Norwich, West Brom etc get the full, is cause their projections show they they will almost certainly sell them all.
It isn't a tactic, it isn't cynical, it is just probably Coventry knowing those extra tickets will go to their home fans with the season they are having, and we aren't exactly famous for selling out everywhere we go. (Our numbers are of course improving)
I don't remember anyone being too bothered when we couldn't fill out a few aways last season, so I don't see why it is an issue here.0 -
Is that a policing cost do u think ?Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
I don’t get your point ?Athletico Charlton said:Stoke are being charged £45 per adult ticket by Coventry. We are being charged £32. That will be the reason they are not giving us more.0 -
Coventry still haven’t put Block 9 on sale to home fans. so always the chance they might give more still.
Bar a couple of hundred in the opposite end, the rest of the stadium is a near sell out with just singles dotted around.0
