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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Southampton - Saturday 22nd November 2025 - 12:30pm Kick-Of

LoOkOuT
LoOkOuT Posts: 10,926
in General Charlton

Big test today.

We got spanked.

Charlton 1 Southampton 5

Over to you.

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  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 692
    oh, I don't think I have the energy....
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,926
    That was gone in the first half. All done now. On to Tuesday.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,791
    One one hand don’t overreact. We can bounce back.

    However, I do think that our left side currently has massive issues. 

    Docherty, Gillesphey, Hernandez and TC is just a mess. TC is the only one who looks remotely a championship starter. 

    Has to be addressed in Jan.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,968
    Player marks thread is going to be fun…
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 23,604
    edited November 22
    Game to forget, will get them now and again...on we go to Stoke Tuesday and a chance to get this game out of our heads,,,but we were really nowhere first half were we...
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,612
    edited November 22
    Jones has 3 days to figure out what he's going to do about this wing-back position, with our current injury issues, otherwise we get spanked by Stoke as well. 

    Midfield 3 an embarrassment as well. 

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  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,035
    Squad worth 20x ours, new manager bounce and a massive injury list so a defeat was always likely, but that performance is still completely unacceptable. They’ve scored 5 goals without even doing anything good.

    Every performance since Ipswich has been poor and with Jones now seemingly injured we may be in for a very rough period. Still, in Jonesy we trust. 
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,403
    You cannot blame NJ for the injuries, but starting with Apter and Hernandez as wingbacks was suicidal, as me and others pointed out beforehand. After 2-0 NJ should have brought on Costello, which he did at 4 and made it harder for the 13. But too late.
  • Arthur_Trudgill
    Arthur_Trudgill Posts: 506
    Hard to accept but that was a proper lesson on how to attack.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,791
    Watching the second goal again. Docherty doesn’t bring the man down when he should (either due to lack of pace or intelligence), then doesn’t track him into the area

    It’s not good enough at this level.
  • twiggyaddick
    twiggyaddick Posts: 1,588
    Need a few drinks
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,729
    What ever the question, Apter and Hernandez are not the answer, 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 27,148
    lordromford said:
    Player marks thread is going to be fun…
    Pray for Lancs.
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,633
    For a team that gives few chances in most games we basically gave them an open door through the midfield for half an hour and they destroyed us with pace I haven’t seen from any other team this season. Armstrong is a very good player. Onwards and upwards…..hopefully.
  • WattsTheMatter
    WattsTheMatter Posts: 401
    This has to be a time for pragmatism, and that means the wingback approach isn't going to work.  Hernandez and Apter together clearly isn't the answer as it leaves us open on both sides. The gap between Macca and Hernandez resembled the Panama Canal for most of that first half. 

    Up front, still don't think Leaburn starting is the answer. Didn't look bothered for that first half in the slightest.

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  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,605
    There’s a reason Hull got shot of Docherty - no way near good enough, but he runs around a lot so people like him. 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,421
    That was a draw after 22 minutes. Big thanks to Saints for stopping when they did.
  • WattsTheMatter
    WattsTheMatter Posts: 401
    cafcsinger said:
    There’s a reason Hull got shot of Docherty - no way near good enough, but he runs around a lot so people like him. 
    Great at looking busy, without offering much in either direction of play. We do have options in midfield, now is the time to try them out. 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 27,148
    Charlton tannoy playing Bruce Hornsby and the Range as Sky sign off "...that's just the way it is, some things will never change..." 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,545
    cafcsinger said:
    There’s a reason Hull got shot of Docherty - no way near good enough, but he runs around a lot so people like him. 
    same for Gillesphey at Plymouth. except the running around bit.
  • Tunwellsaddick
    Tunwellsaddick Posts: 2,462
    A loss today, but 2 away wins await. You never know with Charlton.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,260
    I’m sure I remember a game in SCP’s promotion season when we were 4-0 down at half time, at home (Notts County?). I hope this is a blip like that and not the start of a long struggle. 
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,256
    Smithy said:
    Squad worth 20x ours, new manager bounce and a massive injury list so a defeat was always likely, but that performance is still completely unacceptable. They’ve scored 5 goals without even doing anything good.

    Every performance since Ipswich has been poor and with Jones now seemingly injured we may be in for a very rough period. Still, in Jonesy we trust. 
    Southampton were good, especially first half. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,311
    Outplayed and taught a lesson by a far better team who were quicker and sharper all over the pitch. Haven't seen us defend that poorly for a while. 

    Not sure really what to do for Tuesday night formation or personnel wise. Had it in my head second half to go 4231 with Bree and Ramsay as fullbacks but asking Doc to hold would be asking for trouble , but Apter-Carey-TC behind Tanto would be interesting. 
  • panther10
    panther10 Posts: 110
    Docherty , costello ,henandez  woefull especially docherty 

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