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Exactly this. It surprises me that so many people seem to forget or maybe don’t realise this is something Curbs used to do in our Prem days signing the likes of Hreidarsson and Holland for example and pretty sure there are other examples too and mostly those signings seemed to work.killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.2 -
Know that Henry called you Curbs but you know that you’re actually not right?RonnieMoore said:
Got two promotions and won a London tournament funny enough at the valley as a manager .. once again makes your comments look silly .. don’t comment omCafcSteve said:
I refuse to believe that someone who’s been watching football for that long could be so wrong about the game in every single post match thread.RonnieMoore said:
Boring ……. Been going to the valley since 1968 … for your information so once again another of your posts totally incorrect ..CafcSteve said:
Always said that you was a Millwall fan so this is definitely something that you’ve just made up in your head.RonnieMoore said:Please let this be true ……… Millwall mate , reckons that Aston Villa want to sign Azeez for 30 mill … which is mad enough but want TC to replace him … to say he unhappy is an understatement lol
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You comment on TC every day and know absolutely nothing about him.4 -
It's The Valley Ronald, don't you know anything....🙄RonnieMoore said:
Got two promotions and won a London tournament funny enough at the valley as a manager .. once again makes your comments look silly .. don’t comment omCafcSteve said:
I refuse to believe that someone who’s been watching football for that long could be so wrong about the game in every single post match thread.RonnieMoore said:
Boring ……. Been going to the valley since 1968 … for your information so once again another of your posts totally incorrect ..CafcSteve said:
Always said that you was a Millwall fan so this is definitely something that you’ve just made up in your head.RonnieMoore said:Please let this be true ……… Millwall mate , reckons that Aston Villa want to sign Azeez for 30 mill … which is mad enough but want TC to replace him … to say he unhappy is an understatement lol
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Individual players sure, 3 or 4 of one relegated side's first team feels a bit excessive though!killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.3 -
Might not be on Pro Evo Soccer though?eastterrace6168 said:
It's The Valley Ronald, don't you know anything....🙄RonnieMoore said:
Got two promotions and won a London tournament funny enough at the valley as a manager .. once again makes your comments look silly .. don’t comment omCafcSteve said:
I refuse to believe that someone who’s been watching football for that long could be so wrong about the game in every single post match thread.RonnieMoore said:
Boring ……. Been going to the valley since 1968 … for your information so once again another of your posts totally incorrect ..CafcSteve said:
Always said that you was a Millwall fan so this is definitely something that you’ve just made up in your head.RonnieMoore said:Please let this be true ……… Millwall mate , reckons that Aston Villa want to sign Azeez for 30 mill … which is mad enough but want TC to replace him … to say he unhappy is an understatement lol
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Plus Mills to Leeds, Bent to Spurs, Luke Young to Boro from our relegation seasons, they weren't bad players.MartinCAFC said:
Exactly this. It surprises me that so many people seem to forget or maybe don’t realise this is something Curbs used to do in our Prem days signing the likes of Hreidarsson and Holland for example and pretty sure there are other examples too and mostly those signings seemed to work.killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.
Even Liverpool under Klopp used to pick up the best player from a relegated club - Robertson, Wijnaldum, Shaquiri.
Thinking every player from teams that only just finished below us just be rubbish because they got relegated is daft.
Although I wouldn't sign half their team, I must admit.4 -
And Ronnie's weird hatred of Dobbo as well. just because Ronnie was an amateur league manager (still can't believe that) doesn't make him more experienced and knowledgable than say NJ, who wanted to keep Dobbo or Parkinson who signed him and played him for most of the season in a team that almost made the playoffs.CafcSteve said:
Know that Henry called you Curbs but you know that you’re actually not right?RonnieMoore said:
Got two promotions and won a London tournament funny enough at the valley as a manager .. once again makes your comments look silly .. don’t comment omCafcSteve said:
I refuse to believe that someone who’s been watching football for that long could be so wrong about the game in every single post match thread.RonnieMoore said:
Boring ……. Been going to the valley since 1968 … for your information so once again another of your posts totally incorrect ..CafcSteve said:
Always said that you was a Millwall fan so this is definitely something that you’ve just made up in your head.RonnieMoore said:Please let this be true ……… Millwall mate , reckons that Aston Villa want to sign Azeez for 30 mill … which is mad enough but want TC to replace him … to say he unhappy is an understatement lol
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You comment on TC every day and know absolutely nothing about him.6 -
When you get to 100,000 it rolls back to zero though - sorry to say.PeaksAndValleys said:
FA have you considered doing a countdown for your approach to 100k posts? It could have its own thread, you could post every time you get one closer.ForeverAddickted said:
Weekly extract from the Plymouth Herald?RonnieMoore said:Crystal Palace could face serious competition from Aston Villa in the race to sign Millwall winger Femi Azeez after the Nigerian attacker’s outstanding Championship campaign, looks like a bidding war ? .
You'll be able to say "CharltonLife? Clocked it, mate" though.1 -
Have to say this comment slightly changed my view I must say, my thinking was not being keen on relegated players or too many as they were part of the problem, but given the examples above , it shows my thinking was a bit flawed. However I do think serious scouting has to be done more on the physiological side making sure they have the character to not let the relegation effect them going forward.North Lower Neil said:
Plus Mills to Leeds, Bent to Spurs, Luke Young to Boro from our relegation seasons, they weren't bad players.MartinCAFC said:
Exactly this. It surprises me that so many people seem to forget or maybe don’t realise this is something Curbs used to do in our Prem days signing the likes of Hreidarsson and Holland for example and pretty sure there are other examples too and mostly those signings seemed to work.killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.
Even Liverpool under Klopp used to pick up the best player from a relegated club - Robertson, Wijnaldum, Shaquiri.
Thinking every player from teams that only just finished below us just be rubbish because they got relegated is daft.
Although I wouldn't sign half their team, I must admit.3 -
Which I think we did well with the signings of Bell and Burke and to a certain extent Kaminski. None of them looked scarred from a double relegationSword65pf said:
Have to say this comment slightly changed my view I must say, my thinking was not being keen on relegated players or too many as they were part of the problem, but given the examples above , it shows my thinking was a bit flawed. However I do think serious scouting has to be done more on the physiological side making sure they have the character to not let the relegation effect them going forward.North Lower Neil said:
Plus Mills to Leeds, Bent to Spurs, Luke Young to Boro from our relegation seasons, they weren't bad players.MartinCAFC said:
Exactly this. It surprises me that so many people seem to forget or maybe don’t realise this is something Curbs used to do in our Prem days signing the likes of Hreidarsson and Holland for example and pretty sure there are other examples too and mostly those signings seemed to work.killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.
Even Liverpool under Klopp used to pick up the best player from a relegated club - Robertson, Wijnaldum, Shaquiri.
Thinking every player from teams that only just finished below us just be rubbish because they got relegated is daft.
Although I wouldn't sign half their team, I must admit.1 -
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When we got relegated in 19/20 we had Taylor, Cullen, Lockyer, Phillips. No team would go well that’s too many players from a relegated squad they’d look at the individuals and go they were quality and were surrounded by poorer players.Garrymanilow said:
Individual players sure, 3 or 4 of one relegated side's first team feels a bit excessive though!killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.
3-4 players is only taking into account roughly a 1/3 of a team0 -
15/16 Pope and JBG both went to Burnley who had just won the league as well so were Premier League bound in fact despite our relegation to League One.North Lower Neil said:
Plus Mills to Leeds, Bent to Spurs, Luke Young to Boro from our relegation seasons, they weren't bad players.MartinCAFC said:
Exactly this. It surprises me that so many people seem to forget or maybe don’t realise this is something Curbs used to do in our Prem days signing the likes of Hreidarsson and Holland for example and pretty sure there are other examples too and mostly those signings seemed to work.killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.
Even Liverpool under Klopp used to pick up the best player from a relegated club - Robertson, Wijnaldum, Shaquiri.
Thinking every player from teams that only just finished below us just be rubbish because they got relegated is daft.
Although I wouldn't sign half their team, I must admit.
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Burke? He hardly played. I am not convinced by him. Bell is decent but both susceptible to injury.fenaddick said:
Which I think we did well with the signings of Bell and Burke and to a certain extent Kaminski. None of them looked scarred from a double relegationSword65pf said:
Have to say this comment slightly changed my view I must say, my thinking was not being keen on relegated players or too many as they were part of the problem, but given the examples above , it shows my thinking was a bit flawed. However I do think serious scouting has to be done more on the physiological side making sure they have the character to not let the relegation effect them going forward.North Lower Neil said:
Plus Mills to Leeds, Bent to Spurs, Luke Young to Boro from our relegation seasons, they weren't bad players.MartinCAFC said:
Exactly this. It surprises me that so many people seem to forget or maybe don’t realise this is something Curbs used to do in our Prem days signing the likes of Hreidarsson and Holland for example and pretty sure there are other examples too and mostly those signings seemed to work.killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.
Even Liverpool under Klopp used to pick up the best player from a relegated club - Robertson, Wijnaldum, Shaquiri.
Thinking every player from teams that only just finished below us just be rubbish because they got relegated is daft.
Although I wouldn't sign half their team, I must admit.0 -
Neither of which are anything to do with their mental state post relegationraytreacy said:
Burke? He hardly played. I am not convinced by him. Bell is decent but both susceptible to injury.fenaddick said:
Which I think we did well with the signings of Bell and Burke and to a certain extent Kaminski. None of them looked scarred from a double relegationSword65pf said:
Have to say this comment slightly changed my view I must say, my thinking was not being keen on relegated players or too many as they were part of the problem, but given the examples above , it shows my thinking was a bit flawed. However I do think serious scouting has to be done more on the physiological side making sure they have the character to not let the relegation effect them going forward.North Lower Neil said:
Plus Mills to Leeds, Bent to Spurs, Luke Young to Boro from our relegation seasons, they weren't bad players.MartinCAFC said:
Exactly this. It surprises me that so many people seem to forget or maybe don’t realise this is something Curbs used to do in our Prem days signing the likes of Hreidarsson and Holland for example and pretty sure there are other examples too and mostly those signings seemed to work.killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.
Even Liverpool under Klopp used to pick up the best player from a relegated club - Robertson, Wijnaldum, Shaquiri.
Thinking every player from teams that only just finished below us just be rubbish because they got relegated is daft.
Although I wouldn't sign half their team, I must admit.3 -
Both of them have experience in both promotion and relegation which is probably something to be considered when considering "cherry picking" from relegated sides. Younger players have more potential and possibly will increase in value but older ones will be more seasoned and experienced so its getting the balance right.fenaddick said:
Neither of which are anything to do with their mental state post relegationraytreacy said:
Burke? He hardly played. I am not convinced by him. Bell is decent but both susceptible to injury.fenaddick said:
Which I think we did well with the signings of Bell and Burke and to a certain extent Kaminski. None of them looked scarred from a double relegationSword65pf said:
Have to say this comment slightly changed my view I must say, my thinking was not being keen on relegated players or too many as they were part of the problem, but given the examples above , it shows my thinking was a bit flawed. However I do think serious scouting has to be done more on the physiological side making sure they have the character to not let the relegation effect them going forward.North Lower Neil said:
Plus Mills to Leeds, Bent to Spurs, Luke Young to Boro from our relegation seasons, they weren't bad players.MartinCAFC said:
Exactly this. It surprises me that so many people seem to forget or maybe don’t realise this is something Curbs used to do in our Prem days signing the likes of Hreidarsson and Holland for example and pretty sure there are other examples too and mostly those signings seemed to work.killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.
Even Liverpool under Klopp used to pick up the best player from a relegated club - Robertson, Wijnaldum, Shaquiri.
Thinking every player from teams that only just finished below us just be rubbish because they got relegated is daft.
Although I wouldn't sign half their team, I must admit.
I'm not opposed to finding some gems amongst the relegated sides in moderation, but I'd be very concerned if it turned out to be our main market for summer.4 -
Need to look at how he tailed off in the second half of the season, other sides worked out they needed to block his shots from distance. Contribution from assists, two all season I think, is pretty poor for an attacking midfielder taking plenty of dead balls and long throws.Callumcafc said:Carey took 92 shots this season, the most at the club by some distance (TC second with 63).So yes he scored a decent number of goals but our entire team was built around setting him up for strikes (sitting on the edge of the box at corners etc.).
He’s a good player and offers something no one else at the club does, but I’d be disappointed if he was our #1 shot taker next season too.
Outputs (goals scored) were high (top 9%) because the inputs (shots taken) were high (top 6%).
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Agreed, would be nice when he is being charged down prior to having his shot blocked (as invariably happened in the second half of the season) he laid the ball off for someone else in the space made available.Leuth said:
Be nice if Carey could learn to do that tooBigDiddy said:
Unless he has learnt how to pass the ball and create chances for us, I doubt he would add any value.Holdkneebomb said:
Really don’t get the negativity around Anderson. Home grown, still only 21 and improving, has had an excellent loan at Blackpool helping turn them from relegation candidates to one of the most in form sides in the division, really hope Jones finds a place in the squad for himCrispywood said:
We definitely won't be going for players at L2 last year in Iorpenda (L1 huddersfield didnt want him) or JattaGisappointed said:Assuming all those with contracts running down, re-sign, I believe we have a better chance of improving the squad if we go 4-1-3-2 or 4-1-2-3
Mannion
Ramsay/Sichenze/Asiimwe
Jones
Graham/Bell
Edwards
Apter/Fev
De Keersmaeke
JRC/New
Campbell
Kelman
Leaburn/Jatta/New/Kanu
Perhaps four signings, one on a free, one cheap.
As our current set-up:-
Mannion
Ramsay/Sichenze/ Asiimwe
Jones
Graham/Bell/Edwards
New/Fukuda
New
New
New
New
Kelman
Leaburn/Jatta/New/Kanu
To replace the five with decent quality will be expensive. I hope Anderson will play a part. Tangerines love him.
Any money spent must be starters. Obviously Graham, De Keersmaeker and Jatta are suggestions. Id also add Iorpenda as a squad addition.
Perhaps go with a four until we are established, then go back to Nathans five.
I'm not sure how you watched Anderson earlier this year and think he's suddenly the solution
Jones is never going to suddenly switch formation as a Plan A considering all his success is with a 352.1 -
Doesn’t matter where we sign the players from as long as they’re championship quality and improve us. Relegation on the CV shouldn’t make 1 player a worse option because another 5 or 6 of their teammates let them down.thenewbie said:
Both of them have experience in both promotion and relegation which is probably something to be considered when considering "cherry picking" from relegated sides. Younger players have more potential and possibly will increase in value but older ones will be more seasoned and experienced so its getting the balance right.fenaddick said:
Neither of which are anything to do with their mental state post relegationraytreacy said:
Burke? He hardly played. I am not convinced by him. Bell is decent but both susceptible to injury.fenaddick said:
Which I think we did well with the signings of Bell and Burke and to a certain extent Kaminski. None of them looked scarred from a double relegationSword65pf said:
Have to say this comment slightly changed my view I must say, my thinking was not being keen on relegated players or too many as they were part of the problem, but given the examples above , it shows my thinking was a bit flawed. However I do think serious scouting has to be done more on the physiological side making sure they have the character to not let the relegation effect them going forward.North Lower Neil said:
Plus Mills to Leeds, Bent to Spurs, Luke Young to Boro from our relegation seasons, they weren't bad players.MartinCAFC said:
Exactly this. It surprises me that so many people seem to forget or maybe don’t realise this is something Curbs used to do in our Prem days signing the likes of Hreidarsson and Holland for example and pretty sure there are other examples too and mostly those signings seemed to work.killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.
Even Liverpool under Klopp used to pick up the best player from a relegated club - Robertson, Wijnaldum, Shaquiri.
Thinking every player from teams that only just finished below us just be rubbish because they got relegated is daft.
Although I wouldn't sign half their team, I must admit.
I'm not opposed to finding some gems amongst the relegated sides in moderation, but I'd be very concerned if it turned out to be our main market for summer.Were realistically going to sign what 10 players this summer if 2-3 were to come from an Oxford it’s really not that big of a deal unless we were signing the players that took them down in the first place0 -
That's exactly what I said. It's fine in moderation, there absolutely are a few Championship quality players in the sides that went down.Crispywood said:
Doesn’t matter where we sign the players from as long as they’re championship quality and improve us. Relegation on the CV shouldn’t make 1 player a worse option because another 5 or 6 of their teammates let them down.thenewbie said:
Both of them have experience in both promotion and relegation which is probably something to be considered when considering "cherry picking" from relegated sides. Younger players have more potential and possibly will increase in value but older ones will be more seasoned and experienced so its getting the balance right.fenaddick said:
Neither of which are anything to do with their mental state post relegationraytreacy said:
Burke? He hardly played. I am not convinced by him. Bell is decent but both susceptible to injury.fenaddick said:
Which I think we did well with the signings of Bell and Burke and to a certain extent Kaminski. None of them looked scarred from a double relegationSword65pf said:
Have to say this comment slightly changed my view I must say, my thinking was not being keen on relegated players or too many as they were part of the problem, but given the examples above , it shows my thinking was a bit flawed. However I do think serious scouting has to be done more on the physiological side making sure they have the character to not let the relegation effect them going forward.North Lower Neil said:
Plus Mills to Leeds, Bent to Spurs, Luke Young to Boro from our relegation seasons, they weren't bad players.MartinCAFC said:
Exactly this. It surprises me that so many people seem to forget or maybe don’t realise this is something Curbs used to do in our Prem days signing the likes of Hreidarsson and Holland for example and pretty sure there are other examples too and mostly those signings seemed to work.killerandflash said:Garrymanilow said:
He's this forum's new Scott Fraser. He's ticking all the right boxes to keep getting mentioned. Son of a footballer, son of a former Charlton player, plays for a relegated team so people think he will be cheap, POTS for Oxford and sort of roughly plays in a position that we need filling. Though given that people on here regularly say we should sign Mills, Currie, de Keersmaecker and Brannagan I feel like the move from signing the best of League One to the worst of the Championship isn't really that ambitious a step.The Red Robin said:I really don’t see it with Stanley Mills but I must be wrong.
There is a difference though, is that there will be individual players at relegated clubs who have proved on the pitch they are good enough for the Championship, whereas with the top L1 players it's more of a risk.
If we had gone down, Lloyd Jones would have been a no brainer signing for at least half of the Championship.
Even Liverpool under Klopp used to pick up the best player from a relegated club - Robertson, Wijnaldum, Shaquiri.
Thinking every player from teams that only just finished below us just be rubbish because they got relegated is daft.
Although I wouldn't sign half their team, I must admit.
I'm not opposed to finding some gems amongst the relegated sides in moderation, but I'd be very concerned if it turned out to be our main market for summer.Were realistically going to sign what 10 players this summer if 2-3 were to come from an Oxford it’s really not that big of a deal unless we were signing the players that took them down in the first place
But generally speaking these sides did worse than we did, and I don't think anyone would say we played really well overall, so would players in teams even worse than we were actually improve us? Not really, more likely they'd revert to the mean and it's more horrible football to suffer through next year.
We need the Kermorgant or Johnnie Jackson types who make teams better just by pure will and quality.0 -
Doubt we even look at him because he’s the complete opposite profile of a midfielder Jones likes but charlie Savage at Reading apparently up for sale at only 800k.0
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I could see that. Helik is a reliable defender and leader in this league.0
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He's in the same mould as Knibbs and Carey isn't he, when we're looking for a ball player?Crispywood said:Doubt we even look at him because he’s the complete opposite profile of a midfielder Jones likes but charlie Savage at Reading apparently up for sale at only 800k.0 -
Savage would play in the 8, would be a very good signing in my opinionRothko said:
He's in the same mould as Knibbs and Carey isn't he, when we're looking for a ball player?Crispywood said:Doubt we even look at him because he’s the complete opposite profile of a midfielder Jones likes but charlie Savage at Reading apparently up for sale at only 800k.2 -
Ah ok, haven't seen that much of him, but we need someone who can pass between the lines, so if he can do it, for that kind of money, then we should lookCovered_End_Lad said:
Savage would play in the 8, would be a very good signing in my opinionRothko said:
He's in the same mould as Knibbs and Carey isn't he, when we're looking for a ball player?Crispywood said:Doubt we even look at him because he’s the complete opposite profile of a midfielder Jones likes but charlie Savage at Reading apparently up for sale at only 800k.0 -
Only really watched him against us but isn’t Savage a player in the style of Doc? Just without the Championship experience? I don’t remember him having an expansive passing range, his passing data seems to back that up at a glance too0
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If Savage was (hypothetically) signed that would leave us with Knibbs, Carey, Savage and maybe Docherty and Anderson all competing for one or two places which seems excessive. I'd imagine at least one or two of the above to move on before this happened.Covered_End_Lad said:
Savage would play in the 8, would be a very good signing in my opinionRothko said:
He's in the same mould as Knibbs and Carey isn't he, when we're looking for a ball player?Crispywood said:Doubt we even look at him because he’s the complete opposite profile of a midfielder Jones likes but charlie Savage at Reading apparently up for sale at only 800k.0 -
Savage had a great year last year but it seems like Readings fans views of him this year was that he was decent but not elite. 8 have a feeling that most of our signings this tear will be players already in the championship2
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Not a rumour but I’ve always liked Cameron Brannagan from Oxford. Got a bit of everything. Goals. Assists. Good passer. Aggressive. Leader. But 30 years old. Proven championship player who I’m sure would relish another crack at the championship.3
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Complete opposite good technician but doubt he can hack the defensive/physical aspects Jones loves in his midfieldersRothko said:
He's in the same mould as Knibbs and Carey isn't he, when we're looking for a ball player?Crispywood said:Doubt we even look at him because he’s the complete opposite profile of a midfielder Jones likes but charlie Savage at Reading apparently up for sale at only 800k.0
