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Meta and Google/You Tube found negligent

Covered End
Covered End Posts: 52,669
edited March 25 in Not Sports Related

  • In a landmark ruling on Wednesday, Meta and YouTube were found liable in a first-of-its-kind lawsuit that aimed to hold social media platforms responsible for harm to children using their services.
  • The plaintiff, a 20-year-old woman identified as KGM in documents, said she began using YouTube at age 6 and Instagram at age 9, and said her early use of social media addicted her to the technology and exacerbated her mental health struggles.
  • The ruling came after more than 40 hours of deliberations.
  • Meta and Google-owned YouTube were the two remaining defendants in the case after TikTok and Snap each settled before the trial began.
  • The verdict comes a day after a similar verdict was reached on a case in New Mexico, where a jury ordered Meta to pay $375 million for violating consumer protection laws.

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/youtube-meta-negligent-ruling-los-angeles-children-mental-health-b2945651.html

Comments

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,669
    One might presume that this ruling will force them to change their procedures or they will be sued out of business.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,254
    The problem is not just with children . I know many adults who are totally addicted to Facebook and Instagram . 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,290
    The problem is not just with children . I know many adults who are totally addicted to Facebook and Instagram . 
    And Charlton Life. Watch out, mods, my lawyers will be calling...

  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,955
    Interesting, I know Europe has brought in some social medial controls - I wonder if we will see similar here in the UK.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,767
    edited March 25
    Amount of times you see toddlers in buggies holding phones, it's no wonder they're addicted so young.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,441
    What a load of bollocks. 
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,849
    The problem is not just with children . I know many adults who are totally addicted to Facebook and Instagram . 
    Yeah it's depressing as I also know adults who are watching reel after reel of Instagram and most of the videos are aimed totally at them with the somewhat sophisticated and to me rather dull (YouTube used to be so good to really go down a rabbit hole of new music you've never heard before, now it's just sticks primarily to what you have previously played) algorithms which has led to them being shown a narrow area of videos ultimately designed to their tastes which causes obsession and a warped mindset. Leading to mental health issues. This is very true for young adults who have been brought up on these social sites. Leads to addiction and depression, depending of course of their own personal circumstances. That's unfortunately what I have seen. 
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,587
    As likely to work as Charlton beating Millwall...


  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,155
    edited March 25
    There was a recent vote to ban social media for under 16s, and more than 100 members of the current government abstained, and the law failed. So frustrating, why were they abstaining, because they'd been instructed not to vote with their conscience?

    Our kids don't have iPads etc. but I am really not looking forward to their teenage years when everyone else is on social media and they aren't. Parents are really put in an impossible situation and government intervention would have helped. 

    I expect we will look back in future decades and wonder why on earth we let tech corporations run this 'experiment' on our kids brains. 
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 4,000
    How Governments around the world have not done something about this in the last 10-15 years is a joke.

    Some of the authoritarian countries have the right idea limiting access whilst most of the world suck the corporate US c**ks.

    On the flip side, social media apparently gives the disenfranchised a voice. What’s the cost to the rest of us though.

    Whether we can learn from our mistakes remains to be seen…….

    oh wait, AI, obviously not





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  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,964
    Can they give us fewer ads as well?
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,082
    Chunes said:
    There was a recent vote to ban social media for under 16s, and more than 100 members of the current government abstained, and the law failed. So frustrating, why were they abstaining, because they'd been instructed not to vote with their conscience?

    Our kids don't have iPads etc. but I am really not looking forward to their teenage years when everyone else is on social media and they aren't. Parents are really put in an impossible situation and government intervention would have helped. 

    I expect we will look back in future decades and wonder why on earth we let tech corporations run this 'experiment' on our kids brains. 
    The problem is not just refusing to buy your child a device. TVs these days have YouTube access. Am I supposed to deny myself a TV or have some kind of alarm system fitted to it?

  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,621
    One might presume that this ruling will force them to change their procedures or they will be sued out of business.
    They'll just ignore it. And the US will support them in doing so. 
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,621
    MrOneLung said:
    What a load of bollocks. 
    What's bollocks about it? 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,920
    Absolutely incredible that this woman won her case, never mind got awarded $6m. God only knows how many more people (and lawyers) are going to see money flashing before their eyes and launch cases now.

    "The plaintiff said she began using YouTube at age 6 and Instagram at age 9. Her longest single day of use of the platform stretched to 16 hours".

    Where were her parents? What parent is allowing their 9 year old to spend SIXTEEN HOURS a day on instagram?
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 712
    I think we’ll look back in horror at unregulated social media the same way we look back in horror at unregulated tobacco advertising and those that claimed cigarettes were actually good for you. Doesn’t matter what social media you use, it’s like opening the daily mail on steroids - everything you see is there to provoke a strong emotional reaction. 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,279
    edited March 26
    Talal said:
    Amount of times you see toddlers in buggies holding phones, it's no wonder they're addicted so young.
    Really depends what they are being exposed to. My high functioning 7 year old is always watching YouTube videos about his favourite computer games and science. 

    He wants to a games designer and a engineer and is incredibly creative.

    The main issues are the content available to consume and parents not taking any notice. 

    Back in my day, social media was being at the park with your mates, there are zero needs for a child to have FB etc though.


  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,448
    Interesting, I know Europe has brought in some social medial controls - I wonder if we will see similar here in the UK.
    Not yet agreed on at European level. Some holding out in the name of “free speech “
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,441
    MrOneLung said:
    What a load of bollocks. 
    What's bollocks about it? 
    the woman being awarded $6m for her parents letting her do what she wanted when she was a child.


  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,441
    I am off to sue Atari

    I played Pacman as a child and then in my late teens and early 20's found myself taking pills, to a background of repetitive electronic music and seeing ghosts.

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,507
    MrOneLung said:
    I am off to sue Atari

    I played Pacman as a child and then in my late teens and early 20's found myself taking pills, to a background of repetitive electronic music and seeing ghosts.

    https://landing.injurylawyers4u.co.uk/pages/no-win-no-fee
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,621
    MrOneLung said:
    MrOneLung said:
    What a load of bollocks. 
    What's bollocks about it? 
    the woman being awarded $6m for her parents letting her do what she wanted when she was a child.


    Is there some bizarre thing that happens to people when they get older that causes them to simply treat any phenomena that arises at some point after their adolesence or early adulthood with the 'wasn't like this in my day, therefore everyone else is exaggerating it' paintbrush?

    Because I've got to say, I keep waiting for it to happen to me, but it hasn't so far. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,254
    MrOneLung said:
    I am off to sue Atari

    I played Pacman as a child and then in my late teens and early 20's found myself taking pills, to a background of repetitive electronic music and seeing ghosts.
    Stupid comment