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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Preston Nth End: Saturday 11th April 2026: KO 15:00

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  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,752
    Croydon said:
    Just know after the last few weeks of shit at home, we'll beat Ipswich to send the scum up 
    Know what? I wouldn't even be overly concerned at that so long as we get 3 points and stay up! Never thought I would say that - sorry everyone.........
    I'd bite your hand off for that. 

    With the bonus of a possible six more points next season!
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 52,052
    Had a pet die today, ignored everything about everything to console our daughter. Luckily it was only a guinea pig, but she's properly pained by it. 

    Shit to lose again, but fuck it at least we're still fighting. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,098
    With Pompey and Oxford winning, we can't claim to be safe now. We need a couple more points and next Saturday looks our best chance of getting them. We started well for a change and it should have been 3-1 at one point in the first half, then we started rushing things and they looked more composed, This continued into second half and they scored the second in what developed into an end to end game. Then we really knocked on the door but things just didn't fall for us. At home they rarely seem to do lately which begs the question, how much is it bad luck or how much is it us.
  • We only stay up if the teams below us  fuck up, really don’t see where our next point comes from, and yes that includes swfc😡
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,493
    Will try and analyse in more detail later but zero points at home against Preston, Bristol C, Norwich and Wrexham is completely inexcusable at this point in the season. 

    Even I didn’t predict that and I’m always on the more negative side.

    I’m sticking to what I have consistently said for weeks that we will roll over at Sheff Weds.

    And with the gap now down to 5 points, and with the three games to come, by default I have to say we are bang in trouble.

    Its those 4 home games that are pivotal to this mess for me 

    It's more the giving 6 points to Portsmouth that was the problem. 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,812
    last_line said:
    Some idiots have scored TC above 5 on the marks post. Unbelievable!!
    He had a good game. In fact one of very few I actually think is worth paying money to watch most weeks. However we faded after we took the lead. But credit to PNE as they got the measure of us and grew into it. Offiah did a number on TC. Fouled him plenty too.
  • twiggyaddick
    twiggyaddick Posts: 1,632
    That 2nd Preston goal was the most obvious thing I've seen in ages.

    Fullah isn't strong enough for championship football, and we've stopped doing the things that made us hard to beat at home, concede 2 a game we won't get any points.

    for me, next Saturday is the most important fixture for a long long time...
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 700
    The traditional methods of signalling that you surrender are not suitable in football:
    1: Raise your hands: Hernandez tried that and received a red card
    2: Wave a flag: Misusing a corner flag will get you booked
    3: Discard your weapons: players who take one or both boots off will get scorned by fans and management if play continues without them
    4: Striking your colours: taking off your shirt will also get you booked
    5: Shouting "I/we surrender": may not be heard above the crowd, and with so many foreign players on the field these days, may be misinterpreted 

    Nathan Jones has a unique and legal method of throwing in the towel.. He sends on Luke Berry as a substitute.
  • tallboy
    tallboy Posts: 135
    Zulu said:
    Why is it that teams can scythe us open at will at the Valley?
    Because we seem to play with no midfield. We regularly seem to line up with 4 /5 in a line at the back, 2 in midfield and 4 or 5 in a line up front. Our "attacks" break down often by aimlessly sending in the air towards big forwards, the wing backs cant get back quickly enough and we have hardly have a presence in midfield leaving the defence exposed. Oh for a defensive, ball playing midfielder in a 442 formation.
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,499
    Oddly enough if we go to Weds and try and play more expansive to take into account their league position that’s what I think will do us in as we don’t have the quality to do that.

    We absolutely have to get a point at the very least and it seems crazy to say this - but we almost need to go there and set up to be solid first and foremost and be set up to play on the break.

    We should absolutely be able to keep a clean sheet. I would play get Coady in alongside Doc…. Dykes looked leggy today for me. So Leaburn / Kelman has to be worth a go.

    And potentially give Burke a crack alongside Jones as I think Lloyd is being put under too much pressure with just Ramsay and Bell alongside as neither are dominant enough in the air.

        Ramsay Burke Jones Bell Chambers

                        Coady Docherty

                Campbell  Carey  Fevrier

                                Leaburn   
    That's 12 players assuming you'd also have Mannion or Kaminski...

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,592
    Sheff Wendy will be the game which decides where we play next season. Today was one to forget, we should have won that in the first half but if your strikers can’t hit a barn door there’s a big problem. 
    If we stay up it will be interesting who stays and what type of player comes in. 
    That wasn't the case though. It wasn't as if we missed gilt ended chance after gilt ended chance, Preston made some very good blocks. Or they were half chances. Yes a top Championship striker might have out one of them away, but we're unlikely to be able to sign such a player, with our budget and status. And the chance has to fall to that player anyway.

    The xG shows both teams with 1.32 goals. Goalless Coventry had xG of 2.64 by contrast.

    Our defence has started giving away soft goals, that's the issue in recent weeks. Their first goal knocked the stuffing out of us, as they gained in confidence, and we lost our momentum.
  • KettsJohn
    KettsJohn Posts: 1,321
    Just back home in Norwich. Really disappointed with that today and it's the first time I have felt we could now be relegated. It's now a win we need next week as we won't get anything from the two remaining home games. Bit depressed by today. Probably as disappointed today as I have been all season including the loss at Millwall. Not looking good is it.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,035
    Oddly enough if we go to Weds and try and play more expansive to take into account their league position that’s what I think will do us in as we don’t have the quality to do that.

    We absolutely have to get a point at the very least and it seems crazy to say this - but we almost need to go there and set up to be solid first and foremost and be set up to play on the break.

    We should absolutely be able to keep a clean sheet. I would play get Coady in alongside Doc…. Dykes looked leggy today for me. So Leaburn / Kelman has to be worth a go.

    And potentially give Burke a crack alongside Jones as I think Lloyd is being put under too much pressure with just Ramsay and Bell alongside as neither are dominant enough in the air.

        Ramsay Burke Jones Bell Chambers

                        Coady Docherty

                Campbell  Carey  Fevrier

                                Leaburn   
    That's 12 players assuming you'd also have Mannion or Kaminski...

    Probably need that to be fair......

    Forget Chambers and play a back 4... Coady can drop in to make it a 5 when needed.
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,308
    If we can’t beat Wednesday we deserve to go down
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,809
    Forget about home matches, we’re like a rabbit caught in the headlights, soon as we concede, which we always do, we just go into panic mode, away is where we will get out of this shite, starting next week 🙏
  • Nadou
    Nadou Posts: 1,759
    BigDiddy said:
    We could get relegated, so we must get that one win.

    We should have won today - after going in front, we stepped back and allowed them to control the game until the last 15 mad minutes where we threw the kitchen sink at them.

    Absolutely, and how often do kitchen sinks score? It's a terrible tactic. But Jones doesn't seem capable of learning that lesson, since his whole philosophy is stopping the opposition scoring (ha ha) and then nicking a goal with hopeless chaos in the opposition box for the last ten minutes.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,004
    Sometimes getting the last point or last win is the hardest one of all … we are almost there,  might be safe already but 2 points is all we need .. to be sure 
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 1,199
    Off_it said:
    That's it then. Blown it. We're down. We're not going to get another point all season, whilst a couple of the teams below us are already "safe". White flags going up all over the show.

    At least that's what I'm reading on this thread. But then I look at the table and wonder if any of the teams below us would love to swap places with us still ....... hmmm.

    Grow some bollocks you ridiculously weak and spineless bunch.
    Spot on. Wouldn't want to be in the trenches with some on here. White flag up already.

    Thankfully our players and manager have a lot more grit and fight. 

    We'll be fine. Disappointing result today but nowhere near a hiding or relegation signalling performance.

    We're 5 points above relegation zone. Wouldn't swap places with anyone below us. 

    Was always gonna be a tough frustrating season and fact we're still 5 points above relegation zone with it all in our own hands in a good place to be.


    The trenches 🤣🤣

    No one has put the white flag up but correctly said for us to take it in our own hands as you petuantly and pithily put it, we do need to show some fight and grit to win a match. We certainly didnt see any of that from our team today.
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 1,199
    last_line said:
    Some idiots have scored TC above 5 on the marks post. Unbelievable!!
    Idiots because they have an opinion taht is different from yours (which was correct). He had a decent match today, if anyone scored him a 5 or lower, I could take a good guess why and If we are all honest we all know why. Its became fashionable to scapegoat TC.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,716
    Motm in the lounge Greg Docherty … took ages to come up and was in a bit of a mood , which is totally out of character for him .
    im guesssing there was an inquisition in to our utter dullness .
    It’s gonna be a miracle we stayed up we are utter guff and will need fortunes spent and 8 new starters to sign for next season for us to have a chance of staying up .

     

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  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,812
    Sometimes getting the last point or last win is the hardest one of all … we are almost there,  might be safe already but 2 points is all we need .. to be sure 
    The R number is 8, which is higher than 2.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,203
    edited April 11
    This is such a poor team – I don't know how we haven't been in the bottom three all season. It's so hard watching these players play shin pong as they smash simple passes off each other's knees, and aimlessly poke balls onward when they have ages to bring it down. They are a poor, poor bunch of footballers. I saw Preston's players control the ball with one touch and catch passes without breaking their stride. It's a different sport to the one we play.

    With this squad, we can't win games when we're not playing with full intensity and we haven't been doing that in a while. They need to find that level again soon. 

    And I know it didn't really play a role in the result today, but I am so done with this Luke Berry nonsense. 
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,618
    What with the words trenches, white flags and surrender up for grabs... I am just tired. Tired by the inevitabilty of it all.

    It is always thus, it's the hard way OR the hard way for us.

    I don't get NJ's set ups at all at The Valley. Absolutely baffling.

    And for anyone counting on us getting three points from Chef Wendy, I think you should join the horses following around Aintree without their jockeys.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 19,034
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 
    You probably would have said a month ago we’d get a win or at least a couple of points at home against Norwich, Bristol City and Preston, but we didn’t pick up a point. 

    People are terrified of being relegated and struggling to see us winning a game. Don’t call them bed wetters mate, we’re all just desperate to get over the line and frustrated that the best opportunities, home games against teams with nothing to play for. Has now been and gone with absolutely nothing to show for it. 

    Pretty much my thoughts tonight, AFKA. 

    Sadly, it's getting more & more difficult to believe & stay positive in this disasterous run of home defeats. 

    Consequently, the atmosphere was noticeably flat today, and much less noise than usual when we scored. I had to check that an offside had been given to rule out Joe's goal....We're SO tense - living on our nerves for 90+ minutes !

    Don't feel like posting much more, just trying to forget, but wanted to give another shout out to Doc after today's performance. One of the few players that fails to let his team down match after match. Gives 100% EVERY time ! 

    But, if you didn't notice, he was the last to leave the pitch & was either really distressed at the outcome of the match, or was experiencing some issues with his head/face following the tackle that the ref failed to register & stop play on the 2nd half. Very concerning considering Coady's injury at Watford....Sincerely hope he's OK. 

    All in all, one of those days you just want to wipe from your memory when both your football & cricket teams seriously under peform ( plus your favourite non league club)

     "People who don't like sport". They'll never appreciate the highs we experience when our teams do well....

    ....but neither will they suffer the lows that bring us crashing down & sometimes make us wonder why we put ourselves through the wringer....

    ...but return time & time again because it's what we do. 

    To be continued... :| 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,750
    First 20 minutes was excellent but a failure to get a second goal (Only on 5 occasions in the league this season) when on top came back once again to bite us hard.

    In fact from when Preston made it 1-1 we got progressively worse not helped by Jones by taking off Rankin-Costello instead of Carey and then going hit and hope praying that something would happen 

    Chalk and cheese with home to away form at present and now it’s crunch time up at Hillsborough next Saturday 

    Win: On the beach

    Draw: A little bit closer

    Lose: 3 Games to go with Ipswich and Hull at home. Could come down to the last game of the season at Swansea
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,781
    edited April 11
    To not take a point from either Bristol City or Preston North End at home is poor. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,203
    edited April 11
    NJ seemed to be having a right old ding dong with a fan in the West Stand. Anyone catch what that was about?
  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,258
    edited April 11
    Motm in the lounge Greg Docherty … took ages to come up and was in a bit of a mood , which is totally out of character for him .
    im guesssing there was an inquisition in to our utter dullness .
    It’s gonna be a miracle we stayed up we are utter guff and will need fortunes spent and 8 new starters to sign for next season for us to have a chance of staying up .

     
    Would want him to be in a bit of a mood to be honest. Better than him being joking and smiling considering what a blow it was to lose
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,633
    I know he was injured again today  and carried on, but Lloyd is hitting his worst form at the wrong time of the season, by no means terrible but just dropped off a little, Bell also not been great recently, Ramsay has been hit and miss a lot of the season, we need these players to be top of they’re games.
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,451
    Our form has been that of relegation contenders since November, and it’s got worse in the last few weeks. We can’t score and our home form has fallen off a cliff. In addition, we are just not good to watch.

    Looking at the last four games it comes down to us beating Wednesday which is by now means guaranteed. If we don’t then I think we could be sent down on the final weekend and if that happens few of us could argue it would be undeserved.

    More worrying is that until recently I thought the squad just needed a few additions, especially up front, in the summer for us to consolidate a second season in the Championship. Trouble is now even if we do stay up it seems we have problems in a lot of areas.