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EFL Playoffs 25/26 (Saints booted out of final and given 4 point deduction - pg34)

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,833
    Well, that was a poor afternoon of football. 2 play off finals that were riddled with errors, misplaced passes and dull football. 


  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,644
    Crispywood said:
    Sword65pf said:
    If anything Hull getting it done proves we shouldn’t just be satisfied to attempt to stay up, it shows it can still be done.
    Not sure we’re quite the same level as able to pay a striker 25k a week and spending 4.5M on a winger 
    They only spent £3.6m all season 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 26,458
    edited May 23
    golfaddick said:
    Well, that was a poor afternoon of football. 2 play off finals that were riddled with errors, misplaced passes and dull football. 


    Saw the Hull/Middlesborough match… which was the other one…🧐
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 1,803

    It gives a team like ours hope that reaching and winning the play-offs is an achievable target. Recruitment will be crucial this summer

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,019
    Whilst watching the players celebrating I saw Dillon Phillips involved, I hope his contract ensured a nice bonus for promotion.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,345
    Just picking the missus up from Abbey Wood, who knew there were so many Boro and Hull fans living round here 🤷‍♂️
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,707
    Brownie12 said:
    Crispywood said:
    Sword65pf said:
    If anything Hull getting it done proves we shouldn’t just be satisfied to attempt to stay up, it shows it can still be done.
    Not sure we’re quite the same level as able to pay a striker 25k a week and spending 4.5M on a winger 
    They only spent £3.6m all season 
    Salaries are more predictive of success. 
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,025
    edited May 23
    Well you didn't need the help of Harry Palmer, to work out that Boro couldn't hit a Cow's arse with a Banjo.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,314
    MrBurns said:

    It gives a team like ours hope that reaching and winning the play-offs is an achievable target. Recruitment will be crucial this summer

    I haven't grasped the new promotions system malarkey for the Championship next season.
    I think if you finish in the top 24 in the league you make the play offs.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,247
    Laddick01 said:
    Delighted for them. Will be very interesting to see how they do next year - if they can even get close to avoiding the drop they’d have done well.
    Absolutely no chance.
    Play fun attacking, entertaining football regardless of results. Take the money and run.

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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,301
    Pleased that Hull went up as it would've been a farce to see Middlesbrough get promoted after losing their semi-final. But my god that Hull team is going to need a lot of new signings this summer if they're going to do anything other than finish well adrift in 20th.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,525
    AFKABartram said:
    Didn’t really care who wins but a bit gutted that twat has scored the winner 
    Good job you weren't listening on Talkshite as I was. On about 70 minutes they started a running thing about what a mistake Steve Clarke had made not choosing him ahead of "the strikers he selected", for the Scotland squad.  One of this team was Pardew. Maybe its because I never normally listen to Talkshite but I've never heard a pile-on like that, out of the context of the game being covered. Pardew even said "it must have been personal" about Clarke not selecting him. After he scored they more or less went into "Are you watching, Stevie Clarke?" mode. Fucking weird and very unprofessional. Both Clarke and Lyndon Dykes should lamp Pardew the next time they come across him.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,783
    edited May 23
    Crispywood said:
    Sword65pf said:
    If anything Hull getting it done proves we shouldn’t just be satisfied to attempt to stay up, it shows it can still be done.
    Not sure we’re quite the same level as able to pay a striker 25k a week and spending 4.5M on a winger 
    However, seeing them as much as we have and the two games against us where we got 4 deserved pts, do you consider them that much better and the gap that wide?, I don’t,considering our obvious weaknesses, I was just suggesting we might not be as far away as we thought and there is reason to be optimistic after seeing Hull do so well to go up.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,247
    golfaddick said:
    Well, that was a poor afternoon of football. 2 play off finals that were riddled with errors, misplaced passes and dull football. 


    Do you remember that programme when we were kids:
    'Why don't you'?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,870
    The Red Robin said:
    Scoham said:
    Hull followed the Nathan Jones playoff template - zero conceded and a 1-0 win in the final.

    They’ve shown what can be achieved at this level with dominating possession or playing exciting attacking football.
    Except they do counter with pace and urgency. We don’t. That has to be the aim. Too often this
    season it was slow with zero creativity on the counter. 
    Well yeah everyone knows we need to improve going forward, but there had been this idea that you have to play a certain way to do well in this league. We need better players and that would naturally lead to better football and scoring more goals. Keeping clean sheets can still be a priority.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,783
    Scoham said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Scoham said:
    Hull followed the Nathan Jones playoff template - zero conceded and a 1-0 win in the final.

    They’ve shown what can be achieved at this level with dominating possession or playing exciting attacking football.
    Except they do counter with pace and urgency. We don’t. That has to be the aim. Too often this
    season it was slow with zero creativity on the counter. 
    Well yeah everyone knows we need to improve going forward, but there had been this idea that you have to play a certain way to do well in this league. We need better players and that would naturally lead to better football and scoring more goals. Keeping clean sheets can still be a priority.
    Agree.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,106
    I think finding the right partner for Kelman could be key. Yes we need a lock picker in midfield but having a big nuisance CF who chips in with his fair share is as important as far as I’m concerned. I don’t think Miles is yet that player. Dykes if he comes back would in my opinion be back up for that player.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,681
    Really surprised Hull went up….thought they looked the worst of the top 6 when we played them….took 4 points from them….gives me hope but then it’s the hope that kills ya….
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 6,279
    PragueAddick said:
    AFKABartram said:
    Didn’t really care who wins but a bit gutted that twat has scored the winner 
    Good job you weren't listening on Talkshite as I was. On about 70 minutes they started a running thing about what a mistake Steve Clarke had made not choosing him ahead of "the strikers he selected", for the Scotland squad.  One of this team was Pardew. Maybe it’s because I never normally listen to Talkshite but I've never heard a pile-on like that, out of the context of the game being covered. Pardew even said "it must have been personal" about Clarke not selecting him. After he scored they more or less went into "Are you watching, Stevie Clarke?" mode. Fucking weird and very unprofessional. Both Clarke and Lyndon Dykes should lamp Pardew the next time they come across him.
    Alan Pardew unprofessional? Surely not.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,707
    PragueAddick said:
    AFKABartram said:
    Didn’t really care who wins but a bit gutted that twat has scored the winner 
    Good job you weren't listening on Talkshite as I was. On about 70 minutes they started a running thing about what a mistake Steve Clarke had made not choosing him ahead of "the strikers he selected", for the Scotland squad.  One of this team was Pardew. Maybe its because I never normally listen to Talkshite but I've never heard a pile-on like that, out of the context of the game being covered. Pardew even said "it must have been personal" about Clarke not selecting him. After he scored they more or less went into "Are you watching, Stevie Clarke?" mode. Fucking weird and very unprofessional. Both Clarke and Lyndon Dykes should lamp Pardew the next time they come across him.

    Form a queue. 

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  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,865
    edited May 24
    Sword65pf said:
    Scoham said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Scoham said:
    Hull followed the Nathan Jones playoff template - zero conceded and a 1-0 win in the final.

    They’ve shown what can be achieved at this level with dominating possession or playing exciting attacking football.
    Except they do counter with pace and urgency. We don’t. That has to be the aim. Too often this
    season it was slow with zero creativity on the counter. 
    Well yeah everyone knows we need to improve going forward, but there had been this idea that you have to play a certain way to do well in this league. We need better players and that would naturally lead to better football and scoring more goals. Keeping clean sheets can still be a priority.
    Agree.
    This talk that 'if Hull can do it even we can' (with whatever tweaks) is a bit ahead of ourselves i think. NJ needs at least another season to prove he hasn't already reached his ceiling with us i think.

    Then the football has to be worthy, significantly better than Hull's in terms of consistency.

    (And on top of that i want to go up with Lennie Lawrence in charge who showed that quality leadership WITH a low budget is a recipe for success. And not via the play-offs, or in second place with a limp finish like Curbs was famous for).

  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,932
    Think Hull will be guaranteed relegation next season. Hopefully they use the money wisely.


  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,462
    Just a reminder that the last time we pointed at Hull and said that'll be us next season it didn't exactly go to plan..
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,707
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    Think Hull will be guaranteed relegation next season. Hopefully they use the money wisely.


    They were guaranteed relegation this season as well. 
  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 2,225
    As expected in the League One final, regarding recent and current Charlton names. Burstow starts up top for Bolton, no Apter in squad. Edun starts for Stockport, Olaofe on the bench.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,932
    Hoping County win today. They'll be desperate to sign Barry if they go up.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,263
    It’s looks like a pretty sparse crowd for the Bolton v Stockport game. 45,000 max? Bolton sold 28,000 and Stockport 13,000 the last time I looked 
  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 2,225
    It's so nice to be watching these end of season games following a satisfactory CAFC season (two seasons!).

    Didn't get the opportunity last season as we were still involved until the end. Seasons before that were generally a grind.

    Feels like the first time in years I'm genuinely enjoying these fixtures.
  • Yorkshireaddick
    Yorkshireaddick Posts: 525
    Hull City supporters of a certain generation remember nearly dropping out of the football league altogether in the late 90s on two occasions. They’ll take a year in the Premier League as part of that rollercoaster even if it’s a struggle. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,302
    _MrDick said:
    It’s looks like a pretty sparse crowd for the Bolton v Stockport game. 45,000 max? Bolton sold 28,000 and Stockport 13,000 the last time I looked 
    Looking at the crowds both today and yesterday - I have to say that much maligned phrase.

    We are a big club. With Massive potential.

    Genuinely - we were a monster of a club at league one level. The support of the four clubs up to now shows this. We have to continue to build this summer 

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